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Was Bill Moore A CIA Agent?

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Heads-up! This Sunday, May 24th, Robert Hastings and Don Ecker will be guests on the Paracast, discussing the MJ-12-related disinformation being disseminated nowadays by Bob "Condor" Collins and Richard "Falcon" Doty.

This broadcast is an in-depth follow-up to my recent "Operation Bird Droppings" article (and OBD Updates 1 and 2) now online.

Doty and Collins are liars and frauds. Learn the facts about MJ-12!

--Robert Hastings
UFOHastings

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After I emailed the message posted above to several people, Robert Emenegger sent me this response. If you don't recognize his name, google it, together with "UFO".

----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Emenegger
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 10:39 PM
Subject: re MJ12 & BIRDS


At last someone is going for it...to expose the birds and their droppings for all the pigeons to see. I cheer you on.

Bob
 
Robert Hastings wanted this posted. From his post in the "UFOs and Nukes" thread.

Robert Hastings said:
A sneak preview of the Paracast interview 5/24/09:

Below is an excerpt from my article "Operation Bird Droppings" relating to New Mexico State Policeman Richard Doty's attempted intimidation of researcher Shawnna Connolly:

In 2006, a group of researchers, operating under the banner of Reality Uncovered (RU) initiated an online exposé relating to another of Richard Doty’s attempts at disinformation. Titled “Project Serpo Uncovered” it may be found at:

Reality Uncovered Serpo Investigation

RU's findings open with:

On 2nd November 2005, Victor Martinez, the moderator of a UFOlogy-related electronic mailing list, posted an email from an anonymous source claiming to be a retired official of the government. The information referred to a top secret exchange program of twelve

More messages soon followed and so did a website, all promoting the same general idea; that of ET contact and an extended stay on an alien planet.The facts however paint a rather different picture to the fantastical ‘Exchange Program’ outlined above. The majority of the information regarding the Serpo Project has either passed through or is directly from Richard Doty, a person well-known in the field of UFOlogy. Furthermore, some of the names brought out to lend support to the story, in particular Paul McGovern, are in reality also none other than Richard Doty. Read on for the real story behind Project Serpo...

END OF RU INTRODUCTION

One of those posting on the RU forum, Shawnna Connolly, eventually confronted Doty in an email, challenging the claim found in Exempt from Disclosure that Doty had attended law school and passed a New Mexico bar exam, thus sparking an exchange every bit as nasty as those from the late 1980s, when a newly-exposed Falcon/Doty sparred with journalists and researchers, including myself. A summary of the Doty/Connolly exchange currently posted at the RU website begins:

REALITY uncovered Project Serpo Expose Part 6


Rick Doty's Blackmail…

This is a continuation of the release of information that has been gathered during the long investigation into the Project Serpo story by Reality Uncovered. This part includes a few examples of the many incidents of unethical behaviour by two of the individuals responsible for ‘delivering’ Serpo to the public domain. The following is updated information we are providing to help make everyone aware of what has really been going on ‘behind the scenes’ of Serpo...

Doty's Harassment of Shawnna


Toward the end of the ‘heated’ argument between Collins & Doty and us regarding the Bar Exam and School

June 15th, Rick sent Shawnna the following email:

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From: "Rick Doty"
Date: June 15, 2006 8:32:43 PM PDT
To: "Shawnna Connolly"
Subject: Re: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: SERPO, SEINU and DISCLOSURE Open Mind -The Progressive Sceptics and Para-Politics Forum - Bob Collins resolves the 'Doty email' issue

Ms. Connolly:

You have falsified several things about me, my occupation and my past. You have hoaxed my email address and my name.

Now, if you wish to see how well I'm versed in law, I'll show you.
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Nine minutes later - he sends her the following threat:

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From: "Rick Doty"
Date: June 15, 2006 8:41:37 PM PDT
To: "Shawnna Connolly"
Subject: Re: Convicted Felon

I was just informed by two people on Victor Martinez's list that you are a convicted felon. You were convicted of forgery and embezzlement.

I will publish this on the forum.
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Shawnna - never one to be phased [sic] by threats, calls his bluff:

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From: Shawnna Connolly
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 21:53
Subject: Your threat - "Convicted Felon"

[You] appear to be desperate, Mr. Doty.

I have NEVER done anything wrong in my entire life, much less been charged, or convicted of ANYTHING.

Go ahead and post this - it would be my pleasure to SUE a New Mexico state policeman presenting false information on the internet and fraudulently passing himself off as a lawyer (page 91, second edition of Exempt from Disclosure, and page 96 of the first edition of Exempt from Disclosure).

Always,
Shawnna
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But Doty continues using his threatening tactics - I'm sure they've worked before. But apparently he's never met anyone like Shawnna before....

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From: "Rick Doty"
To: "Shawnna Connolly"
Subject: Re: Your threat - "Convicted Felon"
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 03:57:50 +0000

You'd have to sue the persons who spread the information, mainly Victor's list of people, who forwarded me the email.

Now, you see how things can be spread? Whether its truth or not, it was spread.

Oh, I'll spread it, just like you spread lies about me.

By the way, you can't sue unless you can prove venue, which can't be done on Internet traffic. You might want to check the laws!

Just keep you mouth shut about me and I'll do the same with you.

If not, then things will get very interesting with Internet Traffic.

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While the threats were disturbing, Shawnna would not allow Mr. Doty to intimidate her, and she contacted the NM State Police and forwarded this information & evidence of all of the threats to his immediate supervisor.

Shawnna heard back from his supervisor as a result of our report. Capt. Pete Kassetas of the New Mexico State Patrol [sic] assured Shawnna that Mr. Doty had been spoken to and would not be contacting her again. He also said that if for some reason she did hear from Mr. Doty again, she was to contact him right away. Shawnna asked Capt. Kassetas if the department was OK with Doty claiming to have passed the NM State Bar exam and presenting himself to be a lawyer—his response was that he couldn't talk to her about the details but that issue was also being investigated.

Shawnna hasn't heard from Doty since...


END OF RU WEBSITE POSTING


After reading this revealing exchange, I found the reference Ms. Connolly alluded to in the 2005 edition of Exempt from Disclosure, regarding Doty’s claims of having passed the New Mexico:

"Since retiring from the Air Force in November 1988 I have managed to have a successful second career as a New Mexico State Trooper having received many commendations for my outstanding work in the field of law enforcement. During the last few years I have been able to finish my law degree and recently just passed the New Mexico state Bar examine [sic]..."

This claim by Doty is absolutely false, as anyone who wishes to check into the matter will discover. In fact, a few members of RU did just that and got written confirmation from the University of New Mexico that Doty’s and Collins’ claims about Doty having graduated from the university’s law school in 2003 were untrue. That discussion may be found at:

REALITY uncovered Project Serpo Investigation Part 4

--Robert Hastings
ufohastings.com
 
From Robert Hastings (He is locked out of thread):

______________________________

Hello all,

I'm finally home from UFO-Nukes Connection lectures in Stockholm, Sweden, on June 1st, and Curitiba, Brazil, on June 13th. Both were very well received.

On another topic, I am seeking copies of emails anyone may have received on or after 2/28/09, from any of the following senders, in which I am mentioned by name:

Richard Doty
Paul McGovern
Gene Lakes
Tamara Linden
Anonymous

Robert Collins
Mc

Timothy Cooper

Thank you,
Robert
 
As an aside, and a little less useful than the great posts in here, I first heard of Moore via the Project Camelot website (I know, I know... *shakes head in shame) and like how she uses intuition as her sole means of checking out her guests claims, something just didn't ring true with me when listening to him. I was able to dig up a few things but nothing as concrete as the data presented here. Thanks, I found this thread quite enlightening!
 
You heard a Bill Moore interview on Camelot? You sure?

I'd be very surprised to see Moore speak to those two. Especially considering he apparently retired before they even started that site.
 
That could be it. It was the mention of "hearing him" that made me think Northern had heard a Moore interview on Camelot.
 
When you put aside the seemingly never-ending loop of lies and recrimination surrounding this whole affair, I can't help but feel immense sympathy for Bennewitz.

If Moore wasn't acting under a directive to feed Bennewitz disinformation then you're unfortunately left with the conclusion that he did it--pushed a man to his breaking point--for his amusement. Either way, this man is a snake in the tall grass.

I know that doesn't offer much in the way of a substantive analysis in the midst of this trove of information, but there you have it just the same.
 
When you put aside the seemingly never-ending loop of lies and recrimination surrounding this whole affair, I can't help but feel immense sympathy for Bennewitz.

If Moore wasn't acting under a directive to feed Bennewitz disinformation then you're unfortunately left with the conclusion that he did it--pushed a man to his breaking point--for his amusement. Either way, this man is a snake in the tall grass.

I know that doesn't offer much in the way of a substantive analysis in the midst of this trove of information, but there you have it just the same.


Although I wont claim to know much of anything about this whole thing, I think I can confidently say that Moore wasnt messing with Bennewitz for kicks.

Have you read Moores confession speech part 1 and 2? (linked in this thread). Its well worth the effort IMO.
 
I also agree with what you quoted of Gregs post. I think thats the reason MJ12 has stuck around for so long... prove MJ12 genuine and you convince the public.

Its also the closest thing to a holy grail the UFO field has. Take SOM1 01 for instance... if that thing is a genuine document reflecting a program within intelligence then that is the most important document in the history of humanity IMO.

The lack of any other significant physical evidence, or even a 100% convincing photograph, is IMO the reason MJ12 and the docs have hung around so long.

Its like finding a diamond mine full of what looks like magnificent shiny diamonds, and taking 60yrs to determine the authenticity of the diamonds found in the mine. In that 60 period evidence has surfaced that its just an elaborate prop for a movie, but people just cant let go of those magnificent sparkly diamonds.

I personally think the same thing is behind the obsession with abductions: lights in the sky just weren't getting us anywhere, the landings had tailed off, so accounts of actually being taken aboard craft and interacting with their occupants were too good to pass up.
 
Oh, never mind. Not worth the discussion for me since Moore is retired and doesn't care what people say about him anyway. I'm starting to feel the same way.

Moore's only interviews in the last 10 years that I know of were on my show.

Older links and newer link.

Perhaps people should listen to these programs and see what they think at that point. Might change minds, might not. The story is certainly more complicated than most people know.
 
My post above has been edited. I meant to say:

Although I wont claim to know much of anything about this whole thing, I think I can confidently say that Moore wasnt messing with Bennewitz for kicks.
 
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