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thanks to Don for a great presentation. I would have rather skipped the very interesting aviation history lesson and seen more moon stuff. I am not sure what to think about the final moon photo. i would like to view it in photoshop a bit closer.
 
Ok Don - it was worth the wait. Whatever that 'pipe' is, it can only have come about after the crater was formed initially. The fact it is straight, uniform in width and is undoubtedly above the crater floor and entering the crater wall - all this indicates artificiality!

As was said - can anyone explain how such a uniform long object got into the position it is in after the crater was initially formed?

Some terrestrial space agency must have more photos of this crater and region - to be able to see it from additional angles and lighting set-ups would be invaluable!

For me, the photo was worth $10 many times over. It is without doubt the most obviously artificial object I have seen in any photo of the moon's surface.

Thanks Don :)
 
i agree, well worth the 10 bucks. i really like this new way of going to a conference. i would like to do this more often.
 
pixelsmith said:
thanks to Don for a great presentation. I would have rather skipped the very interesting aviation history lesson and seen more moon stuff. I am not sure what to think about the final moon photo. i would like to view it in photoshop a bit closer.
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Pixel - yes, as much as the lead-up to the apollo stuff made sense, if it had been shorter we could have got some questions in. But we have the Forum!

I can see some people seeing all these phots being underwhelmed, but you have to work at this stuff. Some phots in Leonard's book took me weeks to see. You have to keep in mind the perspective, angles, lighting etc. This is not the same as trying to make something fit your expectations. Sometimes you have to come back to something and see it differently.

However, that last phot immediately came to life for me, seeing this pipe-shaped object which could only have been placed after the crater was formed. How?
 
i used to bury large underground pipes with a backhoe, and it can be done with a boring machine. i would imagine the same techniques would work on the moon.
 
Yes - more conferences ASAP!

I am sure the speakers at standard conferences will see the obvious advantages in terms of not having to travel and stay elsewhere - increased audiences etc.

More, more, more!
 
Don, thanks again for your presentation. Is this pipe photo now posted anywhere? Is a hi resolution photo available anywhere to look at?
 
Okay Gang, the conference (well for me) is now history. I hope you found it worthwhile. FWIW, I told Walter yesterday that I had so much stuff that I feared 1 hour would not be nearly enough time. As it was ran out of time for a Q&A. Sorry. What I was trying to show with the aviation history was how quickly our tech leaped forward from 1903 to 1969 and then without warning ... we went stagnant. Today we have cut!! our space exploration. Where we warned off? Well I do think that is possible. Swan seemed to think so, and over the years I have heard a number of stories that seem to suggest we were.

At anyrate, hope you all enjoyed it.

Decker
 
Yes, enjoyed it immensely Don and the whole thing is such a bargain! The phot was worth waiting for no doubt about it!
It is a mystery all this effort for space/the moon and then nothing. And why the later interest by the DoD in the moon when science/astronomy takes little public interest in the moon?
Theorizing conspiracies as to why space expenditure has been cut and interest in the moon dropped off are easy enough to generate - just not so easy to find evidence for.

Anyway - thanks for the presentation!
 
LOVED it Don. It is indeed amazing the speed of our aviation history all the way to the moon. It is suspicious to me that the manned moon exploration abruptly ended and was followed by unmanned photography once again.
 
FYI - I tried to send a flash message from Kevin's site but it went nowhere and I got a very technical report about the problem, none of which I understood.
Because the chat facility was not working I could not get a question in because it would be too costly for me to call trans-atlantic. Bummer!
 
ask your question here and i will call it in for you. :) i have two screens open so i can read your post and watch conference at the same time.
 
I had to work today but I am going to watch the recorded version when Walter releases those. I understand there will be available for viewing later on. However I think thats classified because then nobody will buy tickets for the live show. So dont tell too many peeps.

I heard you did good Don! Congrats
 
Great logic by Kevin on the topic of visual identification. Great Presentation on Mars. What Kevin did by removing colour from NASA phots of Mars for me is proof positive that there is deliberate obfuscation of data regarding the atmosphere and surface features of Mars.
If the remains are truly of walls, paving stones, buildings etc then the implications are phenomenal and it is truly amazing that the vast majority of the world's population are completely in the dark.

Of course, none of it is definitive proof of the standard needed in law but it is at the very least, most worthy of further study by science.
Also, the points Kevin makes about the Martian atmosphere being reportedly of a certain density. The reported density does not jive with intended missions in terms of possible flying objects or parachute descents. It is one way or the other, it cannot be both and Kevin's presentation shows these opposing ideas perfectly. Well done Kevin.

Can anyone give me a couple of lines on the Klaus Dona presentation? Due to internet problems i missed virtually all of it and what I did see was too disjointed. Was it any good? The overall show was fantastic value for money, despite some minor technical problems
 
RygyWa said:
Much rather watch this than the insanity over at project camelot
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Haven't listened or watched anything at Project Camelot in years, there are a bunch of whaco's. The only interview I downloaded and kept was the four part series with John Lear.
 
goggsmackay - I really haven't heard Klaus Dona before, some of that information was really quite amazing if true. The picture of the Piri Reis Map over-layed with a modern maps was incredible and The stones that show their location and the continents if legit was just out of this world weird.
 
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