Yes, but no matter how you slice it, even with the many variances and conflicts as to the pros and cons or whether or not Lazar ever had within his ability and responsibility such a detail as to the sheer amount of advanced access and thus involvement in the supposed Area 51 scene, there's just too much proven information to the contrary to be ignored.
As I mentioned earlier, I was right on the bandwagon of believing him, but then no matter where or how I turned to clarify my feeling , there was inconsistency after inconsistency in any type of viable evidence on his behalf.
Let's not forget that it wasn't only Friedman who thought Lazar was a complete liar, Morgan did his due diligence as well. Here's one of the quotes:
Doctor David L. Morgan looked into all of Lazar's scientific claims and put down most of the ideas that Lazar had elaborated on in his description of the alien spacecraft, particularly its propulsion systems and use of Element 115. Morgan also went on to say, "After reading an account by Bob Lazar of the "physics" of his Area 51 UFO propulsion system, my conclusion is this: Mr. Lazar presents a scenario which, if it is correct, violates a whole handful of currently accepted physical theories. That in and of itself does not necessarily mean that his scenario is impossible. But the presentation of the scenario by Lazar is troubling from a scientific standpoint. Mr. Lazar on many occasions demonstrates an obvious lack of understanding of current physical theories."
This in an of itself began my long road into wondering just what Lazar was all about.
So I looked into the actual theorem Lazar purported to have gained in his studies. This file basically sums up the real Lazar science:
http://sci.tech-archive.net/Archive/sci.physics/2009-08/msg00116.html
It's just plain sad.
So no matter how you slice it.....whether you believe he has been some how framed, to the many hold outs for the physical presentation of element 115 or something to legitimize all his out-worldly examples and information; nothing comes to the surface, except a somewhat questionable lie detector test which to this day in its combined summation, uncertainty to say the least.
Lastly,
This article was written in 2006 about Bob Lazar's "top secret" ideas and relations. I found it interesting because it once again shows the clear amount of evidence against his entire persona:
http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/Lazar_23.pdf
I know we can't skip over the fact some of Lazar claims have proven to be unfounded. But there is in my humble opinion, a reality and truth to some of Lazar claims. I think his claims on the face of it, are ridiculous, however the evidence, I posted still does for me. Make me wonder, about who he is really? And what were the reasons, for him coming out with those strange UFO claims.Even if was just to tell a cool lie. I still love to know what motivated him to tell that cool lie. But until I find out that if ever. I still have to be open minded to some of his story. Some of the claims have checked out in the investigation of Bob Lazar. It what keeps me interested. It probably the reason, why George knapp too is still is interested in Lazar.
Some people might have an opinion. That I'm nuts and stupid to believe this crap. Well that is ok fine with me. But I have reviewed all the available evidence pro and con, and I do believe there is more to this story, than we truly know. I Personally believe if he is lying about working on Saucer craft at Area51-S4. He still knows too much to have come with this story on his own. Here is the main reasons why I still have him in my grey basket!
1)Dr Edward Teller refusing to acknowledge and answer an interview question. Do you know Bob Lazar?
Dr Teller got very anger at the reporter for asking it, and sat there refusing to answer the question on camera. This was a sign Dr Teller (who died in 2003) knew Lazar. It does not mean what Bob said was true. It was the refusal to give an answer that has me personally puzzled and it was angry refusal. Often a sign somebody is covering up or hiding something.
2)Taken from a number of internet/ Links online and my own personal theories aboutLazar.
Two-dozen odd Los Alamos employees told former KLAS-TV anchor George Knapp that they remembered Lazar. Some of them said that they had been warned not to talk about Lazar and that they were afraid to talk about him. Four of them, though, confirmed for Knapp that Lazar had been working on classified
projects there.
3)After denying Lazar's employment there since 1989, Los Alamos in April 1994 finally changed its story and said that he had been employed there. Why did it take five years for Los Alamos to figure out a man going by the name of Bob (Robert) Lazar worked had there? When George Knapp discovered the Phonebook from 1982, only then did Los Alamos confess to knowing him.
4)Knapp also talked to former employees of the super-secret Groom Lake base, who corroborated Lazar's description of such details as how one gets to the base dining room, what the dining room looks like, and how one pays for meals there. It's extremely unlikely that an outsider would know such
information.
5)At MUFON's 1992 Midwest Conference in Springfield, Missouri, Knapp presented further strong evidence of Lazar's credibility. Lazar had mentioned that a man by the name of Mike Thigpen had visited his house and interviewed him in connection with his S4 employment. Kristen Merck and Mrs. Wayne Higdon, two witnesses who happened to be at Lazar's house, confirmed Thigpen's visit. Knapp rhetorically asks, "How did Bob Lazar know the name Mike Thigpen?"
The Department of Energy confirmed for Knapp that the Office of Federal Investigations (whose phone number is not even listed in Las Vegas phone books) performs background checks on people who get clearances to work at the Nevada Test Site or at Nellis AFB. An employee of OFI called Knapp and confirmed that Thigpen worked for OFI. How did Lazar know that Thigpen did background checks? It took Knapp phone calls, friendly insider governmental contacts, and all his award-winning investigative skills before he found out who Thigpen was. by Mark Hines, M.A
6)The W-2 form Naval Intelligence mailed Lazar is hard to explain away as well. Knapp has examined this W-2 form, and copies of it have been seen on TV. Further boosting Lazar's credibility, John Andrews, plastic kit division manager of the Testor Corporation, found out that the U.S. Postal Service sends mail with the zip code NIC-01, the code on Lazar's W-2 form, to Naval Intelligence command in Maryland. By Mark Hines, M.A
7)state of Nevada received when it requested documents about Lazar from the federal government. The reply said that information on Bob Lazar was on a need-to-know basis, and you don't need to know. This kind of reply is consistent with Lazar's having had a high security clearance. By Mark Hines, M.A
I think this evidence is good enough to least wonder about Lazar. "Who is he really? There is lot more supporting evidence for Lazar, but what, I have posted in my opinion. Is enough for me to ask these questions.
Lazar was he a whistleblower to clandestine black projects? Is it possible Lazar was recruited as a Government agent, were he later was aked to be part of an operation to release UFO disinfomation worldwide? Or is he just a compulsive liar, and by change, some weirdness followed him around?
As regards to Element 15 been used to Power the Saucer UFO's at S4, a Bob Lazar claim.. Well Element 13 and 15 has been discovered. It was announced in 2004.. Also this scientific breakthrough, has nothing to do with what Bob Lazar claimed in 1989. But the fact is this discovery provides significant credibility to Bob Lazar claims rather than discrediting his claims.
The history and use of our earth's chemical elements: a reference guide By Robert E. Krebs
401 Unauthorized
Received 21 March 2005; published 29 September 2005
The results of two experiments designed to synthesize element 115 isotopes in the 243Am+48Ca reaction are presented. Two new elements with atomic numbers 113 and 115 were observed for the first time. With 248-MeV 48Ca projectiles, we observed three similar decay chains consisting of five consecutive α decays, all detected in a total time interval of 30 s. Each chain was terminated by a spontaneous fission (SF) with a high-energy release and a lifetime of about a day. With 253-MeV 48Ca projectiles, we registered a different decay chain of consecutive α decays detected in a time interval of 0.5 s, also terminated by spontaneous fission, but after 1.8 h. The decay properties of the eleven new α- and SF-decaying nuclei are consistent with expectations for consecutive α decays originating from the parent isotopes 288115 and 287115, produced in the 3n- and 4n-evaporation channels, respectively. Support for the assignment of the atomic numbers of all of the nuclei in the 288115 decay chain was obtained in an independent experiment in which a long-lived spontaneous fission activity, 268Db (15 events), was found to be chemically consistent with the fifth group of the periodic table. The odd-odd isotope 288115 was observed with largest cross section of about 4 pb. In the SF decay of 268Db, a total kinetic energy of 230 MeV and a neutron multiplicity per fission of 4.2 were measured. The decay properties of the 11 new isotopes with Z=105–115 and the production cross sections are in agreement with modern concepts of the role of nuclear shells in the stability of superheavy nuclei. The experiments were carried out at the Flerov Laboratory of Nuclear Reactions, Joint Institute for Nuclear Research.
© 2005 The American Physical Society
URL:
Phys. Rev. C 72, 034611 (2005): Synthesis of elements 115 and 113 in the reaction ^{243}Am+^{48}Ca
DOI: 10.1103/PhysRevC.72.034611
PACS: 25.70.Gh, 23.60.+e, 25.85.Ca, 27.90.+b
and how many Ufologists have been inside with clearence into that area in last thirty years?
