Bob Salas and Rob Hastings Press Release 9/27 D.C. Press Conference

[trainedobserver]

I really haven't seen anything that makes me think we are being visitied but I do keep an open mind.

Read the literature. U.F.O. incidents such as the JAL 1628 incident, Gordon Cooper's testimony, and many others suggest large manufactured devices of unknown origin share our airspace. These objects were unknown to authorities and experts such as commercial pilots and men with high security clearances who were on the cutting edge of aerospace developments like Gordon Cooper. It sure looks like we are being "visited" but by whom and from where is a big mystery.

 

[tyder001]

I've read a lot of it. Mostly just witness testimony of something they either "think" they saw or they have a bleif system that it fits into. Sorry, just not convinced. To be honest with you I wouldn't "beleive" in a u.f.o. if it came on the nightly news and President Obama swore E.T. was in the White House using the phone to "call home." It is something I would/will have to actually "feel" and "see" for myself. Of course if the above sceniro really does happen I'll more than likely manage to at least start to consider. But, right now it's just "lights in the night sky" and "trace evidence." But, then where is that "trace evidence" anyway? Don't get me wrong. I'll be 'thrilled" to find out that a "craft" landed in New Jersey or BumfuckEygpt, Al. But, until them I'll be skeptical but I will keep watching the night sky.

 

[ALPHA ROMEO UNIFORM]

I've read a lot of it. Mostly just witness testimony of something they either "think" they saw or they have a bleif system that it fits into. Sorry, just not convinced. To be honest with you I wouldn't "believe" in a u.f.o. if it came on the nightly news and President Obama swore E.T. was in the White House using the phone to "call home." It is something I would/will have to actually "feel" and "see" for myself. Of course if the above sceniro really does happen I'll more than likely manage to at least start to consider. But, right now it's just "lights in the night sky" and "trace evidence." But, then where is that "trace evidence" anyway? Don't get me wrong. I'll be 'thrilled" to find out that a "craft" landed in New Jersey or BumfuckEygpt, Al. But, until them I'll be skeptical but I will keep watching the night sky.

Hi tyder001,
You do make a valid point regarding the belief system and the whereabouts of the UFOs owners/things and no one knows where it/they come from but lets keep an open mind rather the skeptics one which seems to debunk everything and ridicule people who are brave enough to come forward especially those in defense positions after leaving the armed forces rather than break there security code or nationally security . Furthermore, I rather think it crazy for anyone to spill the so called beans on defense matters if they are a current servicemen or women they took a oath in the armed forces why give the other nations a leg up !

Cheers,
BF

 

[Michael Allen]

Even more interesting than ETH is the pervasive sociological denial epidemic relating to the hypothesis. Sometimes it is hard to tell which side is "protesting too much" -- i.e. " the ETH "believers" or the ET-agnostics.

High strangeness is not a sufficient reason to dismiss ETH--it is still the most logical choice in that it is still easier to traverse interstellar space than to travel through different "dimensions" (terribly misunderstood mathematical construct I am afraid) or "through" time.

 

[Trajanus]

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I really haven't seen anything that makes me think we are being visitied....

There's plenty which points to it. There may not be proof--definitely known to laymen--but ample evidence.

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...High strangeness is not a sufficient reason to dismiss ETH--it is still the most logical choice in that it is still easier to traverse interstellar space than to travel through different "dimensions" (terribly misunderstood mathematical construct I am afraid) or "through" time.

Yes indeed, and high strangeness is a problem for any view of origins. The fact that interdimensional travel is at least as difficult as interstellar travel would require ED beings to be, if anything, even more intelligent and rational than ET ones. High strangeness must represent an attempt to confuse us, not something innate to the phenomenon.

 

[tyder001]

While I understand what you guys are saying I'm not sure I "follow" the logic. It doesn't seem (to me) any more or any less likely that (if there are beings visiting) that they be from another deminsion or another planet. Our mathematics while surely "impressive" would not "preclude" inter dimensional travel. Especially since we don't really understand buy a small percentage of the knowledge of this world much less other possibilties. The same holds true for saying they can't travel those distances. We don't know (if they exisit that is) what they might be able to do. My point being that you are right about not being a knee jerk debunker when the E.T.'s are brought up. But, the flip side is also true. If (and it's a biiiig if) there is something going on it could well be spiritual as well as physical. Of course in my view "it''s all the same thing." Anyway, not convinced but I'm not a "debunker" or a skeptic either. Just a person who is "skeptical" but I'll keep my mind open to the possibilites.

 

[Trajanus]

While I understand what you guys are saying I'm not sure I "follow" the logic. It doesn't seem (to me) any more or any less likely that (if there are beings visiting) that they be from another deminsion or another planet.

Many other planets are now known to exist, and we know our dimension or Universe is habitable. Other dimensions, let alone habitable ones, aren't even verified.

But, the flip side is also true. If (and it's a biiiig if) there is something going on it could well be spiritual as well as physical...

Lol, there definitely is "something going on" and it's apparently physical-technological. I don't know if something "spiritual" could cause tripod landing marks or why it would.

 

[tyder001]

Yes planets are known to exist. But, so is the mind of mankind and there are (although, Lawd how the debunkers fight it.) legitimate studies by reserchers that show evidence of e.s.p. and remote viewing. Proof? Well, for me my own experience is my guide on things that deal with the inner life. Not my only guide but certainly my guide. But, as for the things your saying? I can understand and even open my mind to it but it isn't "proof" that anything beyond earth is going on.



Enlightenment for the wave is when it realizes it is water. All fear of death disappears.
Thich Naht Hanh<small><abbr title="Wednesday, September 29, 2010 at 7:18pm" class="timestamp"></abbr></small>

 

[Michael Allen]

The notion that our planet was at the center of the universe (and unique as its status as "earth"--meaning there was no other "earth" in this earlier archaic cosmology) is analogous to the popular retort today of the supposed remote possibility (or impossibility) of the existence of other bipedal anthropomorphic entities beyond our own planet. Saying that human beings are unique in the universe (or even in the local solar neighborhood) is an absurd anthropocentrism masquerading as science--indeed it is the REAL bias of our times.

 

[tyder001]

Back at'cha~ While I'm sure you are an intelligent person and you may even be proven correct one day. The FACTS are there is no evidence of intelligent life outside the "oith" and of course that is questionable. All the high sounding lanquage in the world belittling the uniquesness of the human being or putting down spritiual thought is just that. High sounding blather! While their is real work being done on the consuiness question and real evidence that "something" be it ESP or DMT induced opening to a "different" reality is possible. There is ZERO evidence of physical craft invading earth. Sorry, I know Star Trek like reality is a "wet" dream for some but it's just not apparent.

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Unbelievable
Russell Targ. Books and Workshops on Remote Viewing, Psi / Psychic Science, Spiritual Healing.
Dean Radin - Conscious Universe and Entangled Minds

just some jumping off points and no it doesn't "prove" the soul or life after death. What it does do is show "honest" research and even results (debateable yes) but that is one thing that science does is debate and research. There are certainly "skeptical" answers and questions that can be legitimently proposed. That's not my point pro or con. My point is Where are the U.F.O. researchers experiments? Where are those awesome "trace" evidence proofs I hear about? Where are the physcial tracks or landing pads?

Now, I'm sorry if I sound like a U.F.O. debunker cause I"m not. I think it is very possible that we are being visitied or will find life someday beyond the earth. I just havent seen it. I also have noticed that some really "quirky" stuff gets trotted out here. Everything from "Aliens" seeded earth to "messages in fields" to "I saw a light in the sky." But, let somebody even mention the "possibibiltiy' that there may be a psyhic connection or something beyond nuts and bolts and some of those same folks go whacko!



"Enlightenment, for a wave in the ocean, is the moment the wave realizes it is water. When we realize we are not seperate, but a part of the huge ocean of everything, we become enlightened. We realize this through practice, and we remain awake and aware of this through more practice."
Thich Nhat Hanh

 

[Michael Allen]

All the high sounding lanquage in the world belittling the uniquesness of the human being

I have no doubt that human beings are unique in some way, however I don't think humans are as unique as ETH detractors would like you to think.

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There is ZERO evidence of physical craft invading earth.

that depends on what you mean by "evidence."

 

[Trajanus]

... Where are those awesome "trace" evidence proofs I hear about? Where are the physcial tracks or landing pads?

Socorro alone yielded marks from landing gear, bits of a strange metal and according to Lorenzen, even footprints.

I also have noticed that some really "quirky" stuff gets trotted out here. Everything from "Aliens" seeded earth to "messages in fields" to "I saw a light in the sky." But, let somebody even mention the "possibibiltiy' that there may be a psyhic connection or something beyond nuts and bolts and some of those same folks go whacko!

I reject sitchin and claims that aliens created life here. Still, the ETH seems most plausible.

 

[tyder001]

I understand your point. I don't agree that it is more "plausible." But, that's because I don't see the "Alien" thing as being factual. But, as I said before I'm certainly willing to keep an open mind on the subject. Matter of fact I'd be thrilled to see a craft with actual "beings from another world." I'm one of those folks who are old enough to have seen Close Encounters of the Third Kind at the movies. I'm also one of those who said "Hell yeah I'd get on the ship."

 

[ALPHA ROMEO UNIFORM]

I understand your point. I don't agree that it is more "plausible." But, that's because I don't see the "Alien" thing as being factual. But, as I said before I'm certainly willing to keep an open mind on the subject. Matter of fact I'd be thrilled to see a craft with actual "beings from another world." I'm one of those folks who are old enough to have seen Close Encounters of the Third Kind at the movies. I'm also one of those who said "Hell yeah I'd get on the ship."

It does seem that until you have seen something of strange awarrness the skeptical mind plays it hand and no I would not get on the ship

 

[Trajanus]

I understand your point. I don't agree that it is more "plausible." But, that's because I don't see the "Alien" thing as being factual...

Lay people, at least, may not be in a position to say--or prove--it's factual but it does appear most plausible.

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It does seem that until you have seen something of strange awarrness the skeptical mind plays it hand and no I would not get on the ship

Why not?--according to various accounts, plenty of people have accepted invitations from aliens to come aboard ships. It can be pretty interesting.

 

[uforadio]

Dear colleagues.
Those are two new audios that I am adding to the archive batch　of media coverage about UFO & Nukes National Press Club Conference.

September 30, 2010
Fox News Radio - The Alan Colmes Show
Download link:
http://tinyurl.com/35lfpvd
(thanks to "rwa100" for initial alert)
Description: During the show, Robert Salas is interviewed, and after that Alan Colmes is taking calls from listeners - show is edited only with UFO references. References on other subjects were removed for your listening pleasure.


September 24, 2010
The Bill Handel Show-KFI AM 640
Download link:
http://tinyurl.com/38swrsj
Description: Now this audio clip is really, really bad. Even from the comic perspective it is stereotypically uninventive. I was reluctant to post this, but at the end decided that it should go on the record after all, for future generations and possible future university thesis about media approach on UFOs (this is good sample of bad example). If you are considering　this clip from the newsworthy perspective, in that case it would be better to skip this one.
　
Best Wishes


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UFOs & Nukes - Media Coverage
New videos added to the batch with their official descriptions:

September 27-2010
NECN Comcast
Former Air Force officers go public on UFOs

ABC7 - September 28, 2010
Ex-Air Force officials reveal UFO sightings
Several former Air Force officials spoke out about UFO sightings they experience while on U.S. military bases.

ABC - Air Force Vets Talk of UFOs
September 28, 2010
Former officers say alleged UFOs shut down nuclear missiles on military bases.

ABC - NOW@9 - Group says UFOs found nuclear weapons
September 28, 2010

UFO Believers Say ET Could Come Calling on the Metro
Fox 4 - September 29th, 2010
A plant under construction in south Kansas City to produce parts for nuclear weapons could soon be getting some visits from outer space, according to local UFO activists who say that recent revelations by former U.S. Air Force officers about UFO sightings at nuclear weapons facilities give their movement new credibility.

Best Wishes

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Recent press conference on UFOs & Nukes gave also additional fire to Leslie Kean's media wave. Those are her recent interviews where UFO & Nukes Conference was also discussed. Here is one sample of latest shows:

Sep30-2010-Mike McConnell Show-WGN Chicago
Download link:
http://www.adrive.com/public/fc45c03d499e4a90a5f9d0a16ecb7b54042c47fdf809772f52b06a75982d95c3.html
or:
http://tinyurl.com/3ynjv4x

Sep28-2010-The John Williams Show-WGN Radio 720
Download link:
http://www.adrive.com/public/39312feb285a61445f073658815eba8fc631898b2566f3dfc92e2a4283515860.html
or:
http://tinyurl.com/35keoon

Sep30-2010-WTMY-Talk Sarasota
Download link:
http://www.adrive.com/public/321c34fa59ca75739bee20b593735708b955f75952994d844505a8f0f53c1303.html
or:
http://tinyurl.com/2v8hyz4

Sep30-2010-Be The Star You Are-World Talk Radio
Download link:
http://www.adrive.com/public/57a1907a823c67141bd890b276fd526b98bd200f8f0a027cd50e836b02b8e86c.html
or:
http://tinyurl.com/3x5towk

Best Wishes

 

[uforadio]

Dear colleagues.
　
UFO & Nukes National Press Conference video is now available on Robert Salas web site.
　
This is the index page:
http://tinyurl.com/28jxq77
　
Those videos are complete and with great quality.　Previous　uncomplete video with a two tin black lines was uploaded on the web by anynimous uploader at the time.
　
Best Wishes

 

[dad2059]

Bob Hastings leaves a rebuttal on my blog;

James Carlson is a deluded liar who has polluted the Internet with his fantasies. Audio tapes of my (and Bob Salas’) interviews with Col. Walt Figel–James’ father’s missile deputy commander–confirm that a UFO was indeed present when the missile shutdown incident took place.

UFOs and Nuclear Weapon Sites s Webzine of Science Fiction, Science Fact and Esoterica

I'll have to listen to these recordings.