Kieran, it's not a question of being right or not. I think it is important to be careful and recognize the implicit assumptions we are making as humans when we try to analyse and make sense of this UFO situation. All of us making this attempt at understanding are human after all (though that in itself is an assumption
) and come to the table mostly with deeply embedded human-centric viewpoints. In other words, I think we are looking at the situation through various filters placed upon us by our evolution and environment. It is important that we recognize as many of these filters as we can so that we can compensate for the filtering and see the situation clearly.
This forum has new posts everyday from joined members, that often do analyse, and try to make sense of the UFO phenomenon. So, your overemphasizing my points in my opinion.
Anyways, I don't believe anyone can sincerely say they know what a nonhuman species, could be thinking, but there is in my opinion some clues in their actions towards our species, that enables me to least, try give an honest assessment on what could be happening!
I often do look and view UFO phenomenon, in ways I can understand, but that does not mean, i am been ignorant to other possibilities that may exist, but equally my point would be to you, what makes you so sure, an alien-nonhuman environment and setting and moral structure would be all different to what we have here?
The fact, that I outlined to you, that people are being returned home, after been taken onboard spacecraft-airships allegedly, and the majority of the abducted, have not received severe physical damage to their bodies. One could presume, and least, I can try to give an honest opinion on the information available to me, that these nonhuman abductors did handle with care and have returned human abductees safely back to their homes. That clue can not viewed to be human centric, as that is what has been alleged to be taking place in alien abduction mythology, for the last couple of generations at least, if this is not going on at'all, then you are close to being right yes 'RIGHT' then not with your opinions .
I don't buy into this filter crap analogy that people in this field spew. I have seen UFO's on three different occasions, different times, in different years. I also don't think the descriptions of the UFO's i gave, had anything to do with how I look at the world, pop culture influences and so on not withstanding.
Plus still haven't seen another description of UFO experience, like mine, anywhere ever, and the fact, unlike most people who've gone and claimed legitimate UFO sightings, my first sighting can be somewhat verified as having happened to me in Ireland.
I too later found out to my surprise, this UFO incident, was part of much later UFO event that happened, over one whole day. Whatever happened the UFO phenomenon, seems to have started up, or appeared in Ireland (during the day) my sighting was between the hours of 5pm and 7pm daytime of the month of March 30 1993 (i think it was after 6 not sure know been so long since that experience) Anyway's the UFO phenomenon seems to have progressed from the south to the north half of the UK during the night, and was seen, into the early hours of 31th march 1993 in France I believe also..
It became known as the Cosford UFO incident in the UK. I will not go into any much depth about my sighting, take too long, anyway I have previously posted two posts about it before when I joined the Paracast forums.
But I will post a video of the Cosford incident, and post a Dr David Clarke report about the Cosford incident,and paste some information about a numbers of UFO sightings at that time in Ireland.
One sighting was had by two Garda (policeman) on the 30th-31TH March 1993 in Askeaton, Limerick, not going to give my family's home address in limerick, but I will tell you i once lived only 7to 8 miles from that location in 1993, and I had my own experience of something different back then at that time. All of this will be off topic, but at the end of day, all we have is opinions, and my opinions often are based on what I have seen and experienced.
Here is the report from Ireland (it a bit long sorry) and the silly explanation given to explain all possible causes of what people were seeing in Ireland and the UK.
The night of March 30-31st, 1993, will remain long in the memory of many people in these islands. On that night, and, to a lesser extent, the following night, witnesses all over Ireland and Britain observed unusual, slow-moving lights in the sky. Without a doubt, many people had seen debris from a Russian satellite launch burn up high above the earth. Cosmos 2238 did indeed account for quite a number of sightings. Harder to understand, though, are the facts that the lights were seen heading in different directions at different times, and, more importantly, this space junk had the capability of somehow flying at very low altitude above electricity power lines. This fact was reported by two garda patrolmen who witnessed this spectacle from their squad car near Askeaton, Limerick. They observed a "large object in the sky with two lights, one at the front and the other at the back", which they first believed to be a Jumbo jet- except that it made no noise. Their sighting-and their being followed for some time by this thing-were officially logged by them soon afterwards back at their station.
Both Officers' names and ranks are known to us at IUFOPRA,and we will continue to withold them in the interests of their privacy. Though it is our policy, at all times, to protect the witnesses'identities from the public gaze, the Dublin-based 'Evening Herald' did print their names in February 1996 in a piece they ran on "The Irish X-Files". Other witnesses in Limerick City, reported their sightings in similiar terms, as "a silent craft like a Jumbo jet gliding over rooftops, that looked like it was about to touch electricity pylons". In the April-May 1993 edition of 'Astromony and Space', an article was published which set out to clear up the mystery once and for all. The incident involving the garda officers was related, and its time was (accurately) put at 01:13 on March the 31st. However, the explanation for the direction these lights moved in is at odds with witness statements. Dr. TS Kelso, Assistant Professor of Space Operations at the U.S. Air Force Institute of Technology, narrowed down the possibilities of what the object(s) may have been. From NORAD data he calculated that only 438 objects were above the (Irish) horizon at 00:10 UT on March 31st. Only one was below 250 km in altitude at this time. As this object had a perigee- the closest point that a celestial body comes to the earth-of just 107km, it was inevitable that it would fall earthwards.
This object was the carrier rocket body of Cosmos 2238, identified by Western military analysts as a spy satellite, despite Russian claims to the contrary, and launched from Baikonur Cosmosdrome on March 30th. It was expected to traverse Ireland between 01:06 and 01:12 local time, which fits in with many of the sightings, and in a northwest to southeast direction......... which very definitely does NOT fit in with some of them. One such sighting took place in Dunshaughlin, Co Meath, where a witness saw two lights flying close together and in silence. Both had a contrail behind them. They seemed to be very low in the sky but what was really odd was that they were going to the southWEST. This was at 01:15. Further discrepancies in their direction were observed in County Down, and also in England.
A criticism levelled at UFO reports has often been that ordinary civilians are not 'trained observers'. The fact that an ordinary person's eye witness testimony is quite acceptable in a criminal trial, but not in a UFO sighting account, speaks volumes about the failure of science and the mass media to think seriously, for even one moment, about UFOs being objectively real. This has been the case for countless years, but, hopefully, with the revelations that life of some sort may have existed-or may still exist-as close to us as Mars or Jupiter's moons, the same people who have spent years debunking UFOs, no matter what the weight of evidence says, will at least sit down and THINK. What sort of testimony, one wonders, IS acceptable? Who is a 'qualified' or 'trained' observer? Police and military personell, one would think.
We have already heard of the incident involving the patrol car in Limerick. The Irish Air Corps graciously replied promptly to our queries, and sent us copies of interesting statements from a Captain who was on board a Dauphin helicopter en route from Baldonnel (Casement) Aerodrome, near Dublin, to Finner Camp in Donegal. He and his crew of five observed a light being "turned on" above them in their two o'clock position. During their observation, which lasted about two minutes, by using night vision equipment they could see contrails behind what was now two lights. Dubllin ATC was consulted, but they radioed back that no other aircraft was nearby. Dublin checked with Shannon ATC,who also had no radar contacts in the area, apart from the Dauphin. They had been receiving similar reports from people in Askeaton and Bantry. An Iona Airways flight crossing the Welch coast overheard the conversation between the helicopter and Dublin ATC, and said they had seen a fast aircraft formation, moving from north to South at Fl 200, though this could have been RAF traffic. We also received a second military report which was even more interesting, in that the sighting had occurred on March 28th.Two "bright white lights" were observed over Newcastle, Co Dublin, which approxminately 200ft behind them, travelling at around 200kts; and with a dark trail behind each object. A diagram was supplied by the witness also. Copies of these statements and diagrams in our 1994 'Final Report;UFO Wave over England and Ireland-March 30/31st 1993' and is available to purchase by writing to our Box office for price etc. In compiling that report, it was frustrating that ANSO (the Air Navigation Services Office) stated in their reply to us-also reproduced in the report-that they had "no records or reports" of UFO sightings at Shannon ATC Centre for the dates in question.This is despite the fact that the military had reported his sighting to them, they had received reports there from members of the public in the Irish southwest, and they had told national newspapers that they had received these reports from the public.
Indeed, the 'Evening Press' of March 31st stated that the reports were being gathered at Shannon. It was quite understandable that the Irish Dept. of Defence fobbed off our query to them about military radar cover of the Republic and the possibility of 'Stealth' craft breaching national boundaries and security. However, having referred us to ANSO, then a part of Transport, Energy and Communications, we were disappointed that they in turn gave no information. This is despite ANSO being part of the Civil Service, funded by tax pounds. At least, though, we were successful in finding out about more sightings in Britain. Both PUFORG and DUFORO kindly forwarded details to us about sightings in England's south and Southwest, Wales, and, via a Ministry of Defence reply from Nick Pope at Air Staff 2A, also included in our report, further sightings in Yorkshire. In conclusion, despite the Cosmos 2238 explanation, other factors were undoubtedly involved. How else could space debris, travelling from NW to SE at, approximately, 01:15 or so,be seen heading due WEST at that time? Or due NORTH, off South Wales, a full hour earlier? Some speculation, certainly in Ireland, focused on a possible overflight of the American 'Aurora' spyplane, especially given the close proximity of RAF Macrihanish in Scotland. Even that, though, wouldn't explain the diversity in the times-and directions-of the sightings, especially over Wales and England.
It seems entirely possibly that something else was in the air that memorable night besides the Russian craft. Much has been said about controversial footage of 'UFOs' taken from the shuttle while in orbit. Less publicized has been the monitoring by unidentified craft of Russian space launches (as well as military manoeuvers). If UFOs do indeed exist, wouldn't it be reasonable to assume they would watch the workings-or malfunctions-of our leading edge technology, ie, our space programmes? This concludes the IUFOPRA STATUS REPORT on the UFO phenomenon in Ireland. In studying, researching and investigating the area of UFOs, things have a tendency to move quickly! At the time this report was concluded, the newspapers carried details of a UFO which was seen over Co Louth by amateur astronomers observing the Hale-Bopp comet, and the intriguing news that life may have existed, or even still exist, on Callisto and Ganymede. Ridicule would probably have greeted anyone who, even a couple of years ago, dared suggest life might exist as close to ourselves as the vicinity of Jupiter. So, it is commonplace to be overtaken by
The Cosford Incident |
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