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[Wade]

I don't have a problem with Muslims. If a bunch of Southern Methodist started down this road I would have just as little regard for them. I have a problem with rabid ideologues who preach intolerance whether they are muslims, or brown skinned or come from Pakistan or the Isle of Man. In that same view I have little use for the Westboro baptist church crowd and I have stated as much in this very forum but perhaps because they don't number 1.6 Billion and because the WBC is nothing more than an incestuous inbred family at least they don't go around blowing people up, stilll i put them on the same level when it comes to teaching intolerance. Would you defend these guys?

As far as Mike and Stoney I have seen a number of posts by both them that disparage religious fervor of all shapes and sizes but again these other groups are not massacring other people. Speaking of massacuring, as far as having pity on poor muslims living in poverty consider Iraq, the Muslim faithful always did a pretty good job at killing each other going on their religious pogroms over the centuries and stopped only because a tyrannical madman was put in charge and he wasn't having any of that. He was the only one that was going to kill on a mass scale, same with Assaad in Syria and now that the stakes have changed...yes because of US interferance...there are elements that are back at it. EVEN WITHIN THEIR OWN FAITH. Sponsered of course by Saudi Arabia (Sunni) and Iran (Shia ) So it's not even a religious thing it's more of a zealotry thing. " You are not one of us so you are unworthy to breath the same air of us" . i don't care where that comes from, that type of thought is a disaese that needs to be contained if not eliminated but quite frankly i don't know what the solution is because we all know that poverty and forcing one's will on another group will never be eliminated

 

[manxman]

Its about fear, and fear mongering by those in fear the most.
What has a muslim ever done to either of them or you or me, nothing nil zip nada, how much muslim blood is there in a litre of petrol, cos that what it comes down to when you rinse it all out, american foriegn policy.

Charlie is showing you several times a week, CIA and Israeli arms supplies to ISIS, whilst your news channels demonise them.

Have you forgotten the 500+ woman and children killed by CIA sarin, just to give abarmy a pretext toinvade with boots on the ground, if it wasnt for the brits whistle-blowing within a week, Obarmy was going in, he did some back-peddling once it was revealed it was a CIA plot to blame Assad, which is exactly what they done.

500+ women and children gone at the click of YOUR presidents fingers, and then forgotten in a blink.

Where's THEIR justice ?..

 

[stonehart]

I don't have a problem with Muslims. If a bunch of Southern Methodist started down this road I would have just as little regard for them. I have a problem with rabid ideologues who preach intolerance whether they are muslims, or brown skinned or come from Pakistan or the Isle of Man. In that same view I have little use for the Westboro baptist church crowd and I have stated as much in this very forum but perhaps because they don't number 1.6 Billion and because the WBC is nothing more than an incestuous inbred family at least they don't go around blowing people up, stilll i put them on the same level when it comes to teaching intolerance. Would you defend these guys?

As far as Mike and Stoney I have seen a number of posts by both them that disparage religious fervor of all shapes and sizes but again these other groups are not massacring other people. Speaking of massacuring, as far as having pity on poor muslims living in poverty consider Iraq, the Muslim faithful always did a pretty good job at killing each other going on their religious pogroms over the centuries and stopped only because a tyrannical madman was put in charge and he wasn't having any of that. He was the only one that was going to kill on a mass scale, same with Assaad in Syria and now that the stakes have changed...yes because of US interferenc...there are elements that are back at it. EVEN WITHIN THEIR OWN FAITH. So it's not a religious thing it's a zealotry thing. " You are not one of us so you are unworthy to breath the same air of us" . i don't care where that comes from, that type of thought is a disaese that needs to be contained if not eliminated but quite frankly i don't know what the solution is because we all know that poverty and forcing one's will on another group will never be eliminated

Well what can I say that you have not already.
Thanks Wade you hit the nail right on the head with that post.

 

[Wade]

Its about fear, and fear mongering by those in fear the most.
What has a muslim ever done to either of them or you or me, nothing nil zip nada, how much muslim blood is there in a litre of petrol, cos that what it comes down to when you rinse it all out, american foriegn policy.

Charlie is showing you several times a week, CIA and Israeli arms supplies to ISIS, whilst your news channels demonise them.

Have you forgotten the 500+ woman and children killed by CIA sarin, just to give abarmy a pretext toinvade with boots on the ground, if it wasnt for the brits whistle-blowing within a week, Obarmy was going in, he did some back-peddling once it was revealed it was a CIA plot to blame Assad, which is exactly what they done.

500+ women and children gone at the click of YOUR presidents fingers, and then forgotten in a blink.

Where's THEIR justice ?..

the US is a problem Yes but also Saudi Arabia and Iran they are just as implicit in this as anyone.

 

[manxman]

Look the 500+ women and kids is just one out many many similar examples, there is no justice for those murdered to progress american foriegn policy, none, none at all, so they do all they can do to make YOU feel THEIR pain, by murdering YOUR innocents.

 

[RenaissanceLady]

Manxman, I don't believe the posters here are 'hating' Muslims. There are more than one billion Muslims in the world, so no one is making the claim that there are more than one billion terrorists/jihadists among us. This doesn't change the fact that we need to acknowledge a few inconvenient truths.

Islam is 500 years younger than Christianity. In many ways, it is exactly where Christianity was 500 years ago (and where many Christians would like Christianity to be, today).
Unlike Christianity 500 years ago, Islam has yet to see a reformation.

There cannot and will not be a reformation of Islam if we pretend Islam is not in need of reform.

We may want to allow freedom of religion and expression, but religious freedom should not be tolerated if it oppresses upon the rights of others. For example:

• Islamisation might as well be synonymous with misogyny and homophobia, while also promoting the strictest punishments, torture, and execution for those of other faiths or who break any religious commandment.
• 95%-97% of Egyptian women have undergone Female Genital Mutilation (FGM). In Somalia, the rate is at 98% You will find that more than 70% of women in Muslim countries throughout the Middle East and Africa have been forced into having this procedure.
• Even in more "liberal" Muslim countries outside of the Middle East, the instances of FGM are increasing along with the rate of Islamisation. Malaysia, which has a far better reputation than most Muslim nations, *only* has an FGM rate of between 62%-90% in its Muslim communities.
• If you're a woman in a Muslim country -- and you're lucky -- sex will either not be pleasurable or extremely painful. If you're unlucky, your own family may decide to murder you to protect its honor. When these occur, the murders are rarely (if ever) prosecuted. The U.N. believes that *only* 5,000 girls and women are honor killed each year. Women's advocacy groups put the number closer to 20,000.

  In many cultures where honor is of central value, men are sources, or active generators /agents of that honor, while the only effect that women can have on honor is to destroy it.[22] Once the honor is destroyed by the woman, there is a need for immediate revenge to restore it, in order for the family to avoid losing face in the community. As Amnesty International statement notes:The regime of honour is unforgiving: women on whom suspicion has fallen are not given an opportunity to defend themselves, and family members have no socially acceptable alternative but to remove the stain on their honour by attacking the woman.[23]

  Honor killing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
• The overwhelming number of Muslims are not only strongly opposed to any LGBT rights, Muslim scholars on Islamic sites point to the Koran as a reason why homosexuality should be punished by execution.
• In the majority of Muslim nations, any protection of LGBTs are forbidden by law -- often under threat of execution. Even in nations where Muslims are a minority, they have widely pushed against liberalizing protections of LGBTs or even support execution of such people.
• The treatment of LGBTs is so horrific in Islamic countries, many LGBTs actually flee to Israel so their rights can be protected. It recently made news when a group of Arab lesbians chose to hold a public meeting -- in Israel -- because that was the only place safe enough for them to do so. Unlike the overwhelming number of Muslims around the world, Israeli Jews overwhelmingly support LGBT rights.

For those of us who are liberal -- truly liberal -- it pains us to admit that Islam is usually at odds with what we would consider to be basic and fundamental human rights. This is a topic that has been widely discussed by Muslims and/or former Muslims who would like to see a serious reform of Islam. Ayaan Hirsi Ali knows better than most people, especially most Westerners, that Islam is a brutally oppressive religion. It was her film about Islam's subjugation of women that led to the assassination of its director, Theo Van Gogh. Ishrad Manji is a Muslim and a lesbian who has widely criticized mainstream Islam. This would-be Islamic reformer has faced oppression and death threats because of both her sexual identity and her criticisms of her religion. She has been banned from travel in many Muslim nations, but has noted how freely she can travel throughout Israel.

It should also be noted and respected: Both Ali and Manji are strong supporters of Israel. They know first-hand that Israel does a far better job of protecting human rights -- especially those of women, religious minorities, and LGBTs -- than any other Middle Eastern nation or any nation with a Muslim majority. If you truly want to educate yourself, Google "Muslim Zionists". You will immediately discover that Muslims who have been brutalized or oppressed by other Muslims almost universally support Israel's right to exist. Many even fight alongside the IDF. These are things that any educated person should know about Islam and the Middle East, though is sadly missing in this conversation.

It is easy to say that radical Islam is similar to the Christian extremists who blow up abortion clinics or belong to other fringe groups.
There is, however, one major difference: Radical Christians (or radical Jews) truly are the fringe.
When at least 70% of most Muslims (more than 90% in certain countries) support or have been subjected to FGM -- or when more than 90% of Muslims support either stripping LGBTs of all rights or actually executing them, it's time to admit that one group has a serious problem.

 

[manxman]

Things will only change when theres nothing of value left to steal from them.

 

[RenaissanceLady]

This entire article is extremely powerful, written by a woman whose Egyptian mother underwent FGM.

So: Yes, women all over the world have problems; yes, the United States has yet to elect a female president; and yes, women continue to be objectified in many “Western” countries (I live in one of them). That’s where the conversation usually ends when you try to discuss why Arab societies hate women.

But let’s put aside what the United States does or doesn’t do to women. Name me an Arab country, and I’ll recite a litany of abuses fueled by a toxic mix of culture and religion that few seem willing or able to disentangle lest they blaspheme or offend. When more than 90 percent of ever-married women in Egypt — including my mother and all but one of her six sisters — have had their genitals cut in the name of modesty, then surely we must all blaspheme. When Egyptian women are subjected to humiliating “virginity tests” merely for speaking out, it’s no time for silence. When an article in the Egyptian criminal code says that if a woman has been beaten by her husband “with good intentions” no punitive damages can be obtained, then to hell with political correctness. And what, pray tell, are “good intentions”? They are legally deemed to include any beating that is “not severe” or “directed at the face.” What all this means is that when it comes to the status of women in the Middle East, it’s not better than you think. It’s much, much worse. Even after these “revolutions,” all is more or less considered well with the world as long as women are covered up, anchored to the home, denied the simple mobility of getting into their own cars, forced to get permission from men to travel, and unable to marry without a male guardian’s blessing — or divorce either.

I hope those commenting on this thread will take the time to read the entire editorial.
Why Do They Hate Us? | Foreign Policy

 

[Wade]

And its the US''s fault that the punishment for adultery in Iran is death by stoning.

 

[manxman]

No Wade it isnt, nor is it any of your business.

 

[flipper]

Its about fear, and fear mongering by those in fear the most.
What has a muslim ever done to either of them or you or me, nothing nil zip nada, how much muslim blood is there in a litre of petrol, cos that what it comes down to when you rinse it all out, american foriegn policy.

Charlie is showing you several times a week, CIA and Israeli arms supplies to ISIS, whilst your news channels demonise them.

Have you forgotten the 500+ woman and children killed by CIA sarin, just to give abarmy a pretext toinvade with boots on the ground, if it wasnt for the brits whistle-blowing within a week, Obarmy was going in, he did some back-peddling once it was revealed it was a CIA plot to blame Assad, which is exactly what they done.

500+ women and children gone at the click of YOUR presidents fingers, and then forgotten in a blink.

Where's THEIR justice ?..

Well said, my feelings exactly. EXCELLENT!!!

 

[stonehart]

Thank you all for not flying off the handle and understanding where Mike and myself are coming from.
As I said in an earlier post I expect to be called racist and a bigot and as I have said also zero shits are given. The fact is I am not being either but pointing out inconvenient truths much as others here have done.

Nice posts all keep them coming for the real enemy of any fundamentalist religion is free dissent and discussion of it.

 

[Burnt State]

Things will only change when theres nothing of value left to steal from them.

as smcder would say, "can you expand on that?"

 

[Burnt State]

Look the 500+ women and kids is just one out many many similar examples, there is no justice for those murdered to progress american foriegn policy, none, none at all, so they do all they can do to make YOU feel THEIR pain, by murdering YOUR innocents.

under anerican military law compensation is doled out to accidental killing of innocents or to the destruction of property including livestock (which is where this policy started in ww1 when chickens were killed) up to the tune of $2500 - which is what you get for the loss of a vehicle or of the main breadwinner - a pittance really. but if this destruction is done while carrying out legitimate war like activities then no compensation is paid out at all - that's just collateral damage.

 

[manxman]

Thats what the victims of 911 were collateral damage due to American foriegn policy doubt you will get many Americans viewing it in/as that extrapolation.

Same as 7/7 and Lee Rigsby hacked to bits on a British street, all of this hasnt just come about uninvited.

They all have one thing in common, they are all victims of their own governments actions in foreign lands.
It doesnt take genius to see, all those victims would be alive today, if their murders were not motivated by revenge.

The logical disconnect kicks in at the point you start calling revenge terrorism, once you can label them a terrorist you forget your part in why they wanted revenge, and can then successfully dehumanise men women and children enough to want to see them all dead, i mean better them than you right, and its not like you or your family will have to do the dirty work, and the kicker is, if its ignored by the mass media, yall can pretend its not even happening..

Just like yall have ignored the slaughter for years, ofcourse if it was your home and family bombed or killed by American/British munitions your memory's maybe alittle sharper, and you may look to take revenge in whatever form it may take, however long it takes.
I dont think they see joe sixpack as just joe sixpack .

I think they think joe sixpack is informed, i think they think that joe condones the foriegn policy's, of his administrations, and they hold joe sixpack equally responsible for his country's actions.

Poor old joe doesnt give a hoot about the middle east, too busy paying the bills, and shooting around of golf twice a week, goes to work and and gets his arse atomised by a jet or bomb, maybe his head cutoff, poor old joe, Payed his taxes, never hurt no-one.

When joe got to heaven, and told st peter 'i dont understand why im here' st peter replied ?.

 

[kanakaris]

And people in Saudi can be executed for a range of crimes including adultery, armed robbery, apostasy, drug-related offences, rape, witchcraft and sorcery.
Most executions are done by beheading and many take place in public.
In some cases decapitated bodies are left lying on the ground in public squares as a “deterrent”.

Beheadings at ‘record levels’: Saudi Arabia executes dozens in deadly August

Don't forget the executions in the USA or China.

 

[Burnt State]

It never ceases to amaze how multi dimensional the responses are concerning ther people's religions. I share in a lot of @manxman's indignance and outrage regarding the demonsing of Islam and @kanakaris' experience of living with and being around peaceful Muslims. Moderate Muslims do not believe in doing evil things to 9 year old girls, stoning homosexuals or supporting terrorists. Those are the things that the patriarchs who have bastardized the religion for their own power, perverted pleasure and total control of the female sex do. They also think that if you publish pictures and cartoons that lampoon the prophet then you'll get shit coming your way soon. Religious fanatics do not believe in freedom of speech but jail, imprisonment, and FGM.

And so I want to really thank @RenaissanceLady for joining in on this discussion with a critique of how women are treated in Islamic states. But then women are treated miserably across the middle east, Africa and loads of other parts of the world. Some men in some cultures just can't seem to stop themselves from raping and assaulting women. There is at least a kind of liberation that women do have here in the west, compared to the middle east i.e. Israel where female global leaders are photoshopped out of the photo op: Jewish newspaper Photoshops female leaders out of ‘Charlie Hebdo’ march pic - National | Globalnews.ca but that hasn't stopped us here in the west from maintaining an active Rape Culture.

To address an earlier point by mike: how young girls are treated by Islam. That's not legitimate Islam; that's wacko Hadith translation, as are all interpretations in Islamic states that subjugate women, again not much different than where we were at back in the good ole days of colonial rule. We also, in the name of religion, have forgiven a lot of the raping and sexual abuse of young children at the hands of the clergy. Now I can't say that these two are parallel, except that in they are both twisted sexualities. These result as a consequence of the paychological deficits created by religions that can not accommodate the natural facts of sexuality including female sexual empowerment.

But I repeat, Islam is a religion of peace; it's the interpretations of it that are keeping it stuck in a totally retro, violent and patriarchal paradigm. Perhaps, if there is a reformation that will acknowledge that secular violence, infighting and global instability is simply not worth it, then maybe we will see a shift. Of course counter reformation would be a real kicker, but in an age of modernity it is surreal to see such medieval/17th century practices at work online. We used to burn witches and they behead journalists for the delight of western teens bored with looking at pornography. When real education brings civilization to these areas perhaps we'll see change. Though as RL pointed out education is not enough. We need a shift in attitude and a surrendering of male power in order to allow for secular values and equitable paradigms to assert themselves. This happens when Isalm exists in immigrant countries.

Right now you only need to say two sentences in Arabic to convert to Isalm. Here in Ottawa we had the largest number of converts following the killing of a soldier on guard at the nation's cenotaph by someone with deluded by false beliefs and totally suffering inside. But those converts at the mosque then suddenly disappeared. That's something to consider. How has the killing of a soldier inspired Canadians to convert and try to find their way to middle eastern training grounds so they can be the next wave of terrorism? That's not Islam's doing - that's about disengaged youth and the onus there is on the adults that structured such a world that produces the need for female domination and promotes hatred and scapegoating. We have taught war and violence as both entertainment and a means to power, just as we always have. Instead of all the attacks on Islam as violent and pedophiliac we would do better to try to understand what's wrong with the male psyche the world over.

 

[manxman]

Thank you all for not flying off the handle and understanding where Mike and myself are coming from.
As I said in an earlier post I expect to be called racist and a bigot and as I have said also zero shits are given. The fact is I am not being either but pointing out inconvenient truths much as others here have done.

Nice posts all keep them coming for the real enemy of any fundamentalist religion is free dissent and discussion of it.

Stoney

Contentious issues need open frank discussion, if Gene see's fit to allow them here.

You are going to get many differing world views, problems only arise when some world views are extreme, and the majority moderate.
Problems arise when those with the extreme view ceaselessly promote their propaganda, it becomes more than a 'frank' debate.

Personally i dont think this is the right place for these kinds of debates, as we all come here to relax, get away from real world problems, we all get on reasonably well discussing the core business of the forum, these kind of debates divide us.

RenaissanceLady
that was an interesting read, ive always considered the way and era i was raised in the best life for a woman in general,
That is, a womans 'job' is to raise her children first and foremost.
That may at first enrage you as a 'modern' woman, but i havent finished yet.

See it was about choice for my mother, and it was about choice for my wife, they could choose whether to work or not.

Ofcourse if they worked it was a 2 tier system, a womans wages were considered pocket money, in its day that wasnt wrong.

The reason it wasnt wrong is because societies economics worked differently, a woman was expected to raise her children full-time, and the middle class husbands wage was enough to give them a good life.

Feminism has brought equality in nearly every way.

But you have lost the most important thing 'choice' , it may appear the worlds your oyster, and it is, if you remain childless.

You have no choice now, both have to work to afford what one wage covered in my era, or raise your children in poverty full-time.

As for muslim women, i think women have been molding there sons for millennia, mentally women are the stronger sex, if theres a 'battle' of the sex's in a culture women will win, it is virtually universal every man loves his mother.

You have muslim women are strong, they will eventually prevail, ofcourse i realise all the flowery talk cannot hide the difficulty of their struggle.

 

[mike]

But I repeat, Islam is a religion of peace

Given the violence weve seen this last month thats an absurd claim to make.

As ive posted before that claim refers to specific verses in the koran that promise world peace when a global caliphate is established and everyone is converted or killed.

Honest scholarship in our politically correct world is a hard commodity to find. Thus, a debt is owed to Bostom for his continuing contributions as he give numerous examples to prove that it is the "centrality of Islamic jihadism" (26) that motivates, inspires, instigates, arouses, and stirs its adherents toward the unrelenting goal of a global caliphate. During the recent Ramadan, for example, there were 260 jihad attacks in 23 countries, with 1,209 dead and 1,910 critically injured. The so-called religion of peace is extraordinarily bloody, yet leaders of the free world prevaricate about its violence.


Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2012/10/tackling_the_totalitarianism_of_islam.html#ixzz3PDdpPDdW

Islam refuses to reform. Thus, it consigns its followers as well as non-Muslims to an existence where no "freedom of conscience" can occur. The modern-day sermons of jihadists receive their script lines from the ideas of a thousand years ago. Islam, by its very nature, is unyielding.
Freedom of religion, freedom of press, freedom of speech, assembly, or petition -- all of which are cardinal ideas enshrined in the American Bill of Rights -- simply do not exist, will never be permitted, and are tantamount to sacrilege within the Islamic world. In fact, dhimmis possess no rights.
Islamic law and American law are antithetical. There can be no conciliation because sharia "compromises the tradition of equality for all under the law." Sharia consists of draconian punishments such as stoning for adultery and homosexuality, death for apostasy, amputation of hands and feet for highway robbery, and lashing for drinking wine.


The jihadist is counting on American ignorance of the ideas in the Koran and of the overarching history of Muslim conquest. As Andrew McCarthy has explained, the jihadists "make Islam appear unthreatening to limn its detractors as irrational and unracist" (47). Thus, the jihadist controls the narrative.

It is vital that the West never forget that taqiyya, the Muslim doctrine that allows lying in certain circumstances, and tawriya, a doctrine that allows lying in virtually all circumstances, are permitted as long as they advance sharia.
As Bostom explains, Muslims who emigrate to Europe and America have the same determination to modify and change their host countries' laws and cultural mores. They wish to "supersede Western conceptions of human rights" with sharia. Thus, "under the rule of Islam, there is no equality among people. Absolutely not" (123).
Why do so many express surprise about Islamic global intentions when repeatedly, Muslim leaders exhort their followers and state that "Islam will return to Europe as a conqueror" (133)? There is abundant evidence that Muslim leaders wish to transplant the draconian, stultifying laws of sharia onto the world.
The Nazis murdered six million Jews and destroyed millions of other groups during WWII. Under Stalin, Communism was responsible for the death of 20 million human beings. Islam has the same global aspirations.

House of Peace
The ideal society, according to the Qur’an is Dar as-Salam, literally, "the house of peace" of which it intones: And Allah invites to the 'abode of peace' and guides whom He pleases into the right path.[6]
The establishment of an abode of peace on earth means the establishment of peace in everyday lives, at all levels. This includes personal, social, state and international levels.[citation needed]
According to Islam there will be an era in which justice, plenty, abundance, well-being, security, peace, and brotherhood will prevail among humanity, and one in which people will experience love, self-sacrifice, tolerance, compassion, mercy, and loyalty. Prophet Muhammad says that this blessed period will be experienced through the mediation of the Mahdi, who will come in the end times to save the world from chaos, injustice, and moral collapse. He will eradicate godless ideologies and bring an end to the prevailing injustice. Moreover, he will make religion like it was in the days of Prophet Muhammad, cause the Qur'an's moral teachings to prevail among humanity, and establish peace and well-being throughout the world.[7]

Peace in Islamic philosophy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Thats what they refer to when they say Islam is "the religion of peace" The devil as always is in the detail. All other religions will be eradicated. The Moral values as espoused in the Koran will prevail aka sharia law.

So when you claim islam ios the religion of peace, be sure to know what that actually means in detail from the islamic pov.

Thats not my opinion, its a concrete cold fact. "religion of peace" refers to the eradicatiuon of all democracy, all other religions and that the whole world is ruled by sharia law, then according to islam we will have world peace. and thats what they refer to when they use the phrase religion of peace

 

[mike]

In April 2010, in the United Kingdom, Anjem Choudary, an Islamic radical, said, "You can't say that Islam is a religion of peace, because Islam does not mean peace. Islam means submission. So the Muslim is one who submits. There is a place for violence in Islam. There is a place for jihad in Islam

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2012/08/islam_a_religion_of_peace_actions_say_otherwise.html#ixzz3PDhlLz8l

The motive forces behind these conflicts are such individual or collective purposes as are
completely devoid of any ideological bias or support for certain principles. Since
Islamic War does not belong to this category, Islam shuns the use of the word
‘war’ altogether. Islam has no vested interest in promoting the cause of this or that
Nation. The hegemony of this or that State on the face of this earth is irrelevant to
Islam. The sole interest of Islam is the welfare of mankind. Islam has its own
particular ideological standpoint and practical programme to carry out reforms for
the welfare of mankind. Islam wishes to destroy all states and governments
anywhere on the face of the earth which are opposed to the ideology and
programme of Islam regardless of the country or the Nation which rules it. The
purpose of Islam is to set up a state on the basis of its own ideology and
programme, regardless of which nation assumes the role of the standard-bearer of
Islam or the rule of which nation is undermined in the process of the
establishment of an ideological Islamic State. Islam requires the earth—not just a
portion, but the whole planet

Top ten reasons why Islam is not a religion of peace