Invisible Empire

[pixelsmith]

I am so sick of people saying the New World Order is a conspiracy theory. Check out this new documentary and tell me there is no such thing.

 

[Angel of Ioren]

There is no such thing.
Also, I love the quote mining, especially the one from Kevin Smith's Smodcast. Too bad he didn't include the part where Kevin says he enjoys it because it's entertaining, not because he believes it.

 

[pixelsmith]

So you watched the 2 hour documentary in 30 minutes and came to your conclusion? hmm. I guess the numerous references to the NWO were dubbed in...

 

[Angel of Ioren]

No no, there's no way I can make it through that whole thing without vomiting. I watched the first ten minutes. As soon as someone misrepresents what someone says, I have trouble with it.
The references to the new world order were not dubbed in, but they were also not used in the context that the film would like you to believe. Also, it wouldn't be much of a secret society if these high ranking new world order people were just coming out and saying i,t right?
I'm really sorry but it's a whole lotta B.S. It'll be great for Alex Jones and Jason Bermas, they'll make lots of money for it. Those guys are up there with Glenn Beck in terms of insane "question asking."

 

[pixelsmith]

ooh 10 minutes. quite the attention span.

Unless you watched the whole movie to the last second, you have no business commenting.
If Alex and Jason were in it for the money only, I doubt they would have released it for free for anyone to watch.

 

[Angel of Ioren]

I have no business commenting on the fact that within the first ten minutes they misrepresent quotes? Sorry, but I am entitled to state this fact. They are quote mining, and as soon as one does that they lose credibility. Am I completely wrong?

Check this out:

I am [...] saying the New World Order is a conspiracy theory [...] there is no such thing.

How would you like me to put that in a movie? That is completely unfair to you and because they did this within the first ten minutes I have a problem with it. That's my point.

 

[pixelsmith]

Can you show me what quote in the first 10 minutes that bothers you?
Because a possible 2 hour speech in full context is not included in the movie you throw the whole movie out?

 

[Angel of Ioren]

It's the the Kevin Smith one I mention in my previous post. It's wasn't as horribly blatant as I did with your quote but he makes it sound like Kevin Smith believed the movie, even though he has stated otherwise. I clearly wrote that above. That stuff bugs me, a lot. It's like quoting Richard Dawkins saying "God [...] exists" by removing the "does not" that should also be there.

You can choose to believe this and worry that there will be one ruling government taking over the world. I prefer to spend time with my family and not let something that does not exist bother me. Same thing with aliens, ghosts, psychics, etc.
I comment on these threads in the hopes that I can make people understand that they shouldn't worry about things that really don't exist. The greatest thinkers of our time don't put any validity into these things, you shouldn't either.

 

[pixelsmith]

So every quote in the movie should contain the complete speech from which it originated... riiight. The documentary would be about 1000 hours long or more.
If you would bother to watch the whole documentary you may change your tune. But them you would have to admit to being wrong...

 

[Angel of Ioren]

No, I didn't say that. I just don't like quotes being misrepresented. That's it. You're putting words in my mouth. I'll gladly say I'm wrong if you can prove something to me.
I'm at work right now, but I'll see if I can find a download of it so that I can watch it on my commute. With that said, if the "New World Order" was a reality, they would be in control, so this film would never get out. Maybe I'm in the new world order trying to spread dis-information!!!!! Oh noes!

Time and time again, the truther movement has been proven to be wrong.

On a serious note, why do you believe this garbage?

 

[pixelsmith]

No, I didn't say that. I just don't like quotes being misrepresented. That's it. You're putting words in my mouth. I'll gladly say I'm wrong if you can prove something to me.
I'm at work right now, but I'll see if I can find a download of it so that I can watch it on my commute. With that said, if the "New World Order" was a reality, they would be in control, so this film would never get out. Maybe I'm in the new world order trying to spread dis-information!!!!! Oh noes!

Time and time again, the truther movement has been proven to be wrong.

On a serious note, why do you believe this garbage?

Because our once great Nation is about to crumble because of these bastards.

 

[Angel of Ioren]

Because our once great Nation is about to crumble because of these bastards.

Not mine, I live in Canada.
Also, to the rest of the world, your nation seems to be bouncing back after 8 years of having a less than ideal leader in office.

 

[pixelsmith]

Not mine, I live in Canada.
Also, to the rest of the world, your nation seems to be bouncing back after 8 years of having a less than ideal leader in office.

Are in favor of a North American union?

 

[CapnG]

Are in favor of a North American union?

Realistically pixel, given the existence of NAFTA and the fact the US and Canada have the most heavily integrated trade policies of any two nations on earth not only does the NAU already "exist" but you've been living in it for the better part of a decade, they just never got around to drawing up the stationary.

As more time passes and the big, scary NWO continues to not manifest, the more convinced I am that it's nothing more than a libertarian label for the natural evolution of countries and governments over time. We used to call it "progress".

 

[Angel of Ioren]

Well, as long as I get to keep all the social programs I have in Quebec like my paternity leave, parental leave, health care, $7 per day daycare, low cost post-secondary education, etc. Although I doubt those "socialist" programs would fly with many considering the stink over health care.

 

[TClaeys]

Same thing with aliens, ghosts, psychics, etc. .........
The greatest thinkers of our time don't put any validity into these things, you shouldn't either.

As a small side note, I'd say that many great thinkers put validity into things that aren't proven. Newton would be one example. He thought he was chosen to decode the book of God, and did all that science stuff too.

Carry on boys. I didn't watch the video so won't comment further.

 

[Jose Collado]

Wow, what a pathetic, paranoid, alarmist piece of shit documentary. So very typical. Sorry, but only ignorant losers would buy into this shit.

I'll file this under "bullshit"...where it belongs.

Apparently the collectors edition comes with a tinfoil hat.

Seriously, there should be an Alex Jones section in the forum. Preferably situated in the trash.

 

[pixelsmith]

Wow, what a pathetic, paranoid, alarmist piece of shit documentary. So very typical. Sorry, but only ignorant losers would buy into this shit.

I'll file this under "bullshit"...where it belongs.

Apparently the collectors edition comes with a tinfoil hat.

Seriously, there should be an Alex Jones section in the forum. Preferably situated in the trash.

Could you please point out any errors in the documentary?

 

[Kieran]

Could you please point out any errors in the documentary?

This might Shock People, i actually agree with Pixel on number of points he has made in the past and I haven't watched the video here specifically. But i do believe we are certainly divided World( it may not be visual to you but it's real.The Economic crisis that happened in 2008 which spread across the Globe. Has further shown to me we have the Rich and we have the rest ( You me and everyone without a billion or a few million to spend.

This ain't a conspiracy. Certain privately owned large Bank's around the World in fact twisted the arms of a number of Sovereign, independent and Citizen elected Governments. With a policy "That if you don't gives us the money/ we will bring the whole banking system crashing down. That is a fact it occurred not in the distant past but recently 2008. I would consider this Blackmail/ no matter how good the intentions( laughable) I would consider the people who Run the largest Banks and have a important say in how thing get run to be a Cabal. It's obvious there is a number of well placed individuals calling the shots here guys and girls. Not elected Governments elected by the Ballot box so to speak.

What is a bank really?

The whole purpose for a bank is to hold onto money that people own. The benefit for the bank they hold onto your money and gain Interest and charge you when you use an ATM or use your Credit card for example. They Bank loans the money they have( mainly yours and they again gain high interest back over a certain number of years. I have a mortgage of 250,000 Euro's and I pay 420,000, back over 40 years, so you see were they make their profit. There assets are gained from taking in Taxpayers hard earned cash. Everyone has been happily doing this for years

What happens the Banks fuck up in 2008 and probably this events were seeded long before this happened. I guess we the average citizen is partly to blame. We all wanted the fancy new car or the newest gadget. But remember Banks were giving out these loans to everyone even at times when they new for sure this people may not be able to pay. The blame rests on their shoulders, there problem deal with it. Did it happen no. I'm a taxpayer what Happened in America happened here. Government bailed out their friends.

Banks took no responsibility for their action sound bites is all i heard coming from their Representatives. A number of Governments around the World in fact bailed out the banks with money that was in essence Taxpayers money. Yours, mine and not a dime came from the Banks.

The figures and amounts are enormous and were has all this money gone. Nobody really knows for sure, but we no for a fact banks are not lending as the did before or used to. They are balancing their Book's and hoarding this monies while Economies around the world still go on suffering. For me this a sign we have the elite and we have the man and women below that. We can get screwed as for as there concerned. What happens if we have another more serious economic crisis Boys and Girls. Is there money left in the Government coffers to bail us out then. This money should have gone to building schools, roads, hospitals and so on. Instead of handing it over to people who had too much money already to handle first time round

MY points needed more expanding on and explaining. But I'm tired and it's late so another time. I also want to talk about A New World Order at a later time too. I think there is actually a valid message here, but unfortunately it's polluted somewhat with Alex Jones being a figurehead. I don't believe there is a New World Order persay, but there is a active moving away from nations deciding their own fate. The EC (European Community) is a perfect example of this but i need to expand and explain this better at a later time.

 

[Jose Collado]

Could you please point out any errors in the documentary?

*sigh* I never said there were errors. I can, however, point out the biggest flaw in the documentary. Jason Bermas - Loose Change - enough said.

Also, the fact the only people peddling this steaming piece of shit are associated with PrisonPlanet. Who'd a thunk it.

Bermas says "Thanks for the support! Cha-ching!"