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The first order of business may have been to collect every single communication and electronic device. The discussion I'm hearing on the news regarding multiple navigation and altitude shifts being reported is just wild. The whole thing ends in the Andaman Islands. Yet radar experts are questioning the ability of Malaysian gov't to even provide such level of detail. The Malaysian gov't claims they are waiting on radar from Indonesia and Thailand who in turn say that they have yet to be formally asked for their radar?!

The one thing they all agree on is that the transponder was deliberately turned off & that hijacking, at this point, is the only way to get passengers back alive. Surreal, tragic and terrifying. Their families must be in an incredibly impossible emotional space. May they all get recovered in good health.
 
The latest word from 'officialdom' is that the plane flew, or was at least structurally intact, for up to 5 hours after transponders were either deliberately turned off or suffered an unlikely failure. This based in part on responses from the ACARS system designed to periodically update certain aspects of the plane's mechanical status for maintenance purposes.

Here’s how we know MH370 kept flying for hours

But it gets stranger. I happened to catch a report about the plethora of electronic signatures emitted by the 777 in normal operation. More than one pilot's opinion was that the average pilot rated for the 777 would have difficulty switching everything off, and might even need the aid of a checklist to do so. Checklists are a standard item in commercial aviation. But not ones written for the purpose of making commercial aircraft hard to track.

These later generation aircraft are big flying computers with lots of redundancy and some strange combination of mechanical failure and/or pilot error is still a possibility. But this is seeming less and less likely.
 
So question..

If it has been Hijacked why have we had no demands?
Why have no terrorist groups made a claim?
If hijacked and no demands then what do they want with a plane full of people?

And in that case who or what was on that flight?
Or do they simply want the plane? .. then why?

speculation for sure but it makes one think.
 
I think its worth consideration

Reuters) - Employees of Freescale Semiconductor who were on a Malaysia Airlines flight presumed to have crashed were doing sophisticated work at the U.S. chipmaker, a company spokesman said on Sunday.
The 20 Freescale employees, among 239 people on flight MH370, were mostly engineers and other experts working to make the company's chip facilities in Tianjin, China, and Kuala Lumpur more efficient, said Mitch Haws, vice president, global communications and investor relations.
"These were people with a lot of experience and technical background and they were very important people," Haws said. "It's definitely a loss for the company."

Loss of employees on Malaysia flight a blow, U.S. chipmaker says| Reuters
 
Latest news looks bad, it seems like the plane has been stolen possibly for later use.
The passengers have all been murdered

US investigators think that Malaysian Airlines flight 370 remained airborne for four more hours after vanishing from its last recorded position - raising the startling prospect the plane could have been hijacked.
Officials suspect that the plane flew for a total of five hours based on data automatically downloaded from the Boeing 777's Rolls Royce engines and sent back to the ground as part of a routine monitoring program.
US counter-terrorism teams are now pursuing the astonishing possibility that the plane and its 239 passengers were diverted to an undisclosed location 'with the intention of using it later for another purpose'.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2579524/Hijacked-hidden-US-counter-terror-officials-fear-plane-captured-debris-spotted-Chinese-ruled-new-data-reveals-airborne-FOUR-hours-vanishing.html#ixzz2w4clkMKw

As for the passengers, the plane was taken to 45,000 feet at which point there would be no oxygen.
The Oxy masks would have deployed, but they only last 15 mins (cockpit ones last much longer)

This would explain the phones ringing but no answer.

That the plane wasnt simply flown into a building may suggest its being used in a differnt manner.

My bet is dirty great dirty bomb...........

I sincerly hope its not coming to a city near you.

I have a very bad feeling about this as of now
 
Latest news looks bad, it seems like the plane has been stolen possibly for later use.
The passengers have all been murdered



As for the passengers, the plane was taken to 45,000 feet at which point there would be no oxygen.
The Oxy masks would have deployed, but they only last 15 mins (cockpit ones last much longer)

This would explain the phones ringing but no answer.

That the plane wasnt simply flown into a building may suggest its being used in a differnt manner.

My bet is dirty great dirty bomb...........

I sincerly hope its not coming to a city near you.

I have a very bad feeling about this as of now

I sincerely hope you are wrong because that is simple terrifying
 
My condolences to the families. My humble opinion (similar to Mike's post) is that the plane and it's 239 passengers/hostages was hijacked. It may have gone into the sea, but if not, the intention was/is probably to take it to a location in the middle east to be re-outfitted and used later for a terror attack. I would speculate that Iran is behind the whole thing and Israel is the eventual target. Another possibility is that the "powers that be" took the plane for use in a false flag event. I suppose the possibilities are endless; but I doubt if UFOs had anything to do with it, at least not the extraterrestrial variety.
 
Much as i would sincerely wish it otherwise, i hold slim hope the passengers are alive

There's also this terrifying bit of information:
An Asia-based pilot of a Boeing 777-200, who asked not to be identified because he was not authorized to speak to reporters, said an ascent above the plane's service limit of 43,100 feet, along with a depressurized cabin, could have rendered the passengers and crew unconscious, and could be a deliberate maneuver by a pilot or hijacker.
Flight 370 Soared Above 45,000 Feet After Vanishing: Report

And while we saw passengers of the doomed 911 flights phone from the planes, not a single call has been made from Fl 370, but the phones did seem active with relatives reporting the phones rang but didnt answer in the hours after they were reported missing
 
Ok call me crazy...WHAT IF the pilot was paid to steal the plane. he killed the co pilot. He flew over 45,000 feet to kill everyone except him. flew the plane to pakastain. then turned it over to his terror friends. Now lets think worst case. they have a nuke the load it into the plane they fuel it up. and head to the USA. what could happen will make.9/11 look small It frightens me it should frighten you. I am a simple woman. I am NOT a Kook. but the thought...Scares me to death.
 
repeat, this throw away line from the bbc, is what its all about, all those experts in one place.

It's not impossible, just not on my top 10 list. There are some heavy hitters in the tech world in this neck of the woods. Upon moving back to Austin 2 years ago, while dining in a coffee shop, I recall a very intense looking guy on his cellphone discussing circuit design. He distinctly said something about "in case of EMP", and my ears perked. ( I used to be a solder monkey in tech.) He then lowered his voice and I went back to minding my own business.

One way of assessing the importance of Freescale facilities would be a look at their own internal security measures. If these guys were just carding in with a badge at a facility not attended by 24 hour security (like we used to do), and if no one from the government made a point of interviewing their neighbors on a regular basis about their friends and habits, (as was the case with previous owners of a house we once bought 'out west' ) then it seems unlikely they would have heads full of technology worth hijacking.

Just my two pennies worth. I would be much more concerned about the dirty bomb scenario.
 
Ok call me crazy...WHAT IF the pilot was paid to steal the plane. he killed the co pilot. He flew over 45,000 feet to kill everyone except him. flew the plane to pakastain. then turned it over to his terror friends. Now lets think worst case. they have a nuke the load it into the plane they fuel it up. and head to the USA. what could happen will make.9/11 look small It frightens me it should frighten you. I am a simple woman. I am NOT a Kook. but the thought...Scares me to death.

I believe that's plausible, but I think a more likely target is Tel Aviv. It's a lot closer, and they'd love to do a 9/11 plus in Israel. I also believe the Pilot and co pilot initiated the whole thing. The plane could have conceivably made it to Iran.
 
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Ok call me crazy...WHAT IF the pilot was paid to steal the plane. he killed the co pilot. He flew over 45,000 feet to kill everyone except him. flew the plane to pakastain. then turned it over to his terror friends. Now lets think worst case. they have a nuke the load it into the plane they fuel it up. and head to the USA. what could happen will make.9/11 look small It frightens me it should frighten you. I am a simple woman. I am NOT a Kook. but the thought...Scares me to death.

The final words from the missing Malaysian jetliner's cockpit gave no indication anything was wrong even though one of the plane's communications systems had already been disabled, officials say, adding to suspicions that one or both of the pilots were involved in the disappearance.

Yes Rikki I feel to that this is getting closer to one of two possibility's

Scares the ever living sh!t out of me if this is the case which makes me think what Coca posted here is the likely target,

I believe that's plausible, but I think a more likely target is Tel Aviv. It's a lot closer, and they'd love to do a 9/11 plus in Israel. I also believe the Pilot and co pilot initiated the whole thing. The plane could have conceivably made it to Iran.
 
Yes Rikki I feel to that this is getting closer to one of two possibility's

Scares the ever living sh!t out of me if this is the case which makes me think what Coca posted here is the likely target,

I’m not afraid they’ll kill me; that would only change my address. I’m concerned about the fate of the passengers though. If they’re not dead, they may face a fate worse than death! I’m also concerned about the terror that may be inflicted on people somewhere if what we’re suggesting comes to pass...
 
What is strange to me is that with over 200 passengers there has to be many cellphones on board. I have to think that the NSA has a means to track the signals from these phones even if they were in the water. I suppose the public isn't being told the whole story here.


I agree. The passengers may have been forced to hand over their phones but also, cellphones don't have much of a range and there will be vast areas within the plane's range that have no cellphone coverage. If there is somewhere the plane has been forced to go to and land, it could be away from any cell tower of any kind. The more this goes on the more I think the pilot(s) are in on something from the start but whichever way you look at it, the passengers will be innocent and caught up in something nasty?

No ransom? No wreckage? No demands? I wonder if this whole thing is being done with the aid of electronics and computers in that maybe the plane managed to masquerade as something it wasn't. We have to remember that save for anyone visually confirming an aircraft quite close-up, the majority of the time it is transponders and radar returns that are being tracked. There is scope for lots of mischief if you know what you are doing.

I know people have said that they know the pilot, that he's a good man etc and I don't know otherwise but isn't it the case that people never think culprits are capable of the crime until after the fact?

It is simply stunning that this has gone on this long. I wonder how long the authorities have been sure that the plane flew on long after the last voice recording? There has been some serious withholding of information which would be understandable were it not for the fact there are hundreds of family members completely at a loss.

Just imagine for a second that you were going to the airport to pick up your mother returning from Australia and you are told the flight has gone missing. This continues for over a week with multiple false-leads and conflicting stories. Is she dead or alive? Is she being well treated or is she facing a mad executioner? The not knowing must be utterly agonising. I really feel for the poor families.
 
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