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just confirms what i personally recognised several years ago, and without a doubt proves beyond doubt whatsoever the likes of randi's site is nothing more than a useful idiot academy, lonely kids, bright misfits, having their ego's massaged, and their need to fit 'in' satisfied, biting hook line and sinker, and for whatever reason ufology has always been the main target, you can see the fakes on youtube are being churned out on an industrial scale now, forums like this are targeted by their amount of traffic, ive seen that happen time and again, i can smell em, devious bastards.

youve got to read it men, it will open many half-shut eyes, who make perfect stooges ex services, thats why theres so many jim obergs lance moodies and tim printy's, and why they have zero scruples, and integrity in discussion.
 
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Shocked this isn't getting more attention here. It's huge!

Finally! Something legitimate from Edward Snowden that at least touches on UFOs. There has been a lot of crap masquerading as fact floating around up to this point, but this is solid. At a site run by Glenn Greenwald, Snowden's exclusive leak recipient, called The Intercept, a powerpoint document called "The Art of Deception: Training for a New Generation of Online Covert Operations" has been posted and features three slides of UFO photos: 35, 36 and 37. There's no elaboration on what the point of the photos are, but they are there and this is a certainty.

The Art of Deception: Training for a New Generation of Online Covert Operations - The Intercept

Well, when all that Snowden stuff was going around earlier I kept saying until it comes through Greenwald, it's junk! This is from Greenwald!

https://firstlook.org/thei.../2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/

Just got word from my friend Tony Bragalia that the UFO photos in the slideshow were taken in Mexico. Here are the details of that case:

NEW SIGHTINGS OVER MEXICO CITY-UFO Casebook Files

Really interesting documents with those UFO pics just hanging out there. Would like to have heard the full presentation to get the context. Doubt these guys would be in the loop about any UFO reality, but the whole thing is very significant. Lots of Snowden/UFO crap floated earlier . . . . . preventative disinfo? Hahahahaha.
 
Perhaps the UFO pictures of which 1 of them is a bird are showing that posting fake UFO videos and fake UFO photos on the internet is a way to deceive the public and ruin reputations.
 
manxman said:
just confirms what i personally recognised several years ago, and without a doubt proves beyond doubt whatsoever the likes of randi's site is nothing more than a useful idiot academy, lonely kids, bright misfits, having their ego's massaged, and their need to fit 'in' satisfied, biting hook line and sinker, and for whatever reason ufology has always been the main target, you can see the fakes on youtube are being churned out on an industrial scale now, forums like this are targeted by their amount of traffic, ive seen that happen time and again, i can smell em, devious bastards.

youve got to read it men, it will open many half-shut eyes, who make perfect stooges ex services, thats why theres so many jim obergs lance moodies and tim printy's, and why they have zero scruples, and integrity in discussion.
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Explain more please, didn't get it. Who's randi? (sorry, still catching up on names).
 
You know how UFO was turned into aliens from space . Well the same shit is happening with the word 'sceptic'. We have to remain sceptical by default but these clowns have turned it into a dogma and an antithesis, to be sceptical is to be anti fringe or anti new ideas or contrary views to the status quo. James randy (I use the y figuratively if u know what the FBI mean) is the poster boy for this trend of arrogant debunkers masquerading as rational scepticism, the spoilt step child of the arrogantly educated materialists who for them, literally compartmentalise and scream "there's no such thing as a snozberry".
 
The snowden stuff , well that's a different kettle of fish . That's just stage managing other peoples stages, and all manner of underhand bullshit disinfo and spoiling. Just don't gi along with the herd , bow to peer pressure, give every one a fair chance , don't overlook lone voices and be weary of online squirrel attacks when a whole bunch of posters jump on a dude or dudettes nuts.
 
yep that article is just about a another team of 150 newly trained, organisers/recruiters, fire dampers, your british tax pound at work, theyve been churning them out in the states and israel for years, be it commercial sabbotage or political, whoever pays.


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it's mission, "posting negative info on various forums" I can't help but wonder if this particular forum was/is ever targeted. The paracast has a healthy dose of skepticism- filtering out the nonsense and leaving room for open debate regarding the UFO phenom. While other such forums promote and/or debate the likes of Charles Hall's Tall Whites (for example) I think forums like the Paracast would be more of a target than most ufo sites, but to what end? What exactly is to be accomplished in doing so? Maybe I'm misinterpreting this recent Snowden release, and the "UFO" photo's presented.
 
The document is a very curious artifact. It exists but exactly what relevance does it have? How serious were the ideas entertained? At what level? It's very different from other Snowden reveals - or just leaks in general. This creates suspicion - makes someone already inclined to paranoia more so inclined. Simple human nature - people being people (which means sometimes being jerks) - gets elevated to stealth espionage. I dunno.....

Let me tell you, we have more to fear from Common Core Standards coming into the educational system nationwide (in the US), and the introduction of testing via computer with answers shooting to a 'mainframe' (in the US) than we have about government trolls in the comments section of a Daily Mail article. It could be argued reasonably that we are all trolls one way or another: the Buddhist who brings their Buddhist pacifism to a conversation, a Christian who tempers political debate with last week's sermon heard in Church, an atheist who argues every hint of background chatter to do with a godhead, etc. The whole 'woo science' and 'pseudo-science' accusations stuff has been enough to silence real debate here, I have observed.

Chat sites - except for the very young, people in their early to mid-teens (who are 'at risk' in a way others are not) - would be an odd place to try to shape public opinion. Chat sites as a whole are a dying breed - edged out by social media. The hey-day of chat sites was a mere 8 years ago or so, I'd say. Now they sit idling, falling into disrepair, unless there is a single focus. Watch any chat site - the actual participation is far, far less than the membership numbers. Sometimes consisting of only a handful of posters. Which makes me wonder how old is the document?
 
"The whole woo/pseudo-science accusations, enough to silence real debate"
Maybe in some thread topics, but not the ufo forum, in my opinion. It has served to keep intelligent debate, filtering out the nonsense other such forum sites tend to provide. Again, using Charles Hall as an example- I have seen forums with countless pages of dialogue regarding his claims, most of chatter consisting of posters agreeing Hall must be telling the truth since his knowledge of the base seems consistent with available maps and such. No one seems willing to question or debate those posters ideas- in such forums. Here, you never need worry about questioning any status-quo-
 
If you want to discredit Ufology or anything else you don't do it with just pseudo-skeptics and debunkers. You do it with pseudo-true-believers who post ridiculous material and make unsupportable claims. You create a mythos and you feed it occasionally, guiding it along predetermined lines while altering course when necessary by controlling the opposition and therefore controlling the entire conversation in the process. You also breed and groom real true-believers and skeptics to operate as unintentional agents who unknowingly further your agenda. I definitely think the majority of the noise is coming from the believer crowd itself where many have difficultly telling fantasy from reality.

Page 14 of the presentation shows a picture of "The Martians" from Messengers of Deception. A key concept.

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addendum to T.O.

commonly defined as 'useful idiot' by the security services, randi's being a prime example, of one such breeding ground, and ats the other side.
 
trainedobserver said:
If you want to discredit Ufology or anything else you don't do it with just pseudo-skeptics and debunkers. You do it with pseudo-true-believers who post ridiculous material and make unsupportable claims.
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Exactly. This is what Greenwald, Scahill, and Snowden are.

I would no more swallow some file posted on Greenwald's $50 million dollar Wordpress blog as genuine and reliable than I would swallow a random piece of beef jerky I found laying on the sidewalk. Provenance matters.

When some billionaire NSA contractor like Pierre Omidyar whose Board of Directors network is part of Booz Allen Hamilton is funding your "journalist" to the tune of hundreds of millons of dollars and Fox and Sony are offering movie deals, it's time to start demanding to see some raw documents.

But no, that's too much trouble to investigate. Let's just swallow, and show all our Facebook friends how "alternative" we are by supporting courageous, heroic outlaws Glenn and Ed.
 
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I would absolutely, positively go to Greenwald's site and look at these slides and read his article.
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Exactly. This is what Greenwald, Scahill, and Snowden are.

I would no more swallow some file posted on Greenwald's $50 million dollar Wordpress blog as genuine and reliable than I would swallow a random piece of beef jerky I found laying on the sidewalk. Provenance matters.

When some billionaire NSA contractor like Pierre Omidyar whose Board of Directors network is part of Booz Allen Hamilton is funding your "journalist" to the tune of hundreds of millons of dollars and Fox and Sony are offering movie deals, it's time to start demanding to see some raw documents.

But no, that's too much trouble to investigate. Let's just swallow, and show all our Facebook friends how "alternative" we are by supporting courageous, heroic outlaws Glenn and Ed.
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Oh man, you need to get over yourself. Have you actually read the article and looked through the slide show before deciding to go ahead and insult people who think the story is interesting?
 
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