valiens said:
Jeremy, I don't think that you and I are in disagreement about the change of mindset that a human being needs to progress through. From my point of view you take a somewhat "buddhist" stance on spiritual evolution, which reflects my point of view as well. But because you have a grip on this subject, even if this understanding came about due to your interactions with these beings, this does not necessarily infer that 'fostering your understanding' was the motivation for their interactions with you.
Here is an analogy to illustrate. Through the experience of being a soldier on the battlefield, a man can potentially grow and discover insights into himself that would be nearly impossible to learn in any other way. However, this would not convince most people to conclude that war is a good and beneficial thing for humanity because the negative elements are right out in the open.
With the ufo phenomenon, however, the negative elements are generally concealed. But I must say that in my opinion, through my personal researches, they are certainly there. This phenomenon does not consist of simply "being stared at on a table". One glaring example: Despite the attempts to hush it up, there have been many reports of not just cattle mutilations, but human mutilations. This is almost exclusively in third world countries, where there will not be a significant investigation into the case. But these men are mutilated in exactly the same way as the cattle, and it has been determined that these men were operated upon while still alive.
But you might ask yourself, if they are indeed negative, then why do I feel such a positivity towards them and their motives?
If you understand psychology then you understand that it is sometimes the case that people who are put through terrible situations by other individuals actually grow feelings of love and dependence for the very individuals who tortured them. From a psychological point of view, this is partly because the victim over time forms a subconscious desire to please the tormentors in order to be "rewarded" with respite from their terror.
One well-known example would be Patty Hearst, the daughter of a rich man, who was kidnapped by a militant group planning to ransom her. She was put through some pretty horrific things, if one reads the reports. However, it was discovered that later she actually joined the militant group and was seen on surveillance cameras carrying automatic weapons and assisting them in bank robberies. Why would someone do this in her situation?
I'm not interested in swaying anyone, I just want to try and help in any way that I can. I have no conclusions in your particular case Mr J because I really don't know anything. But if you want my hunch, it is that you have undergone a traumatic experience through which very few people can psychologically profit from (such as war). But the experience is actually genuinely negative from our point of view, such as lions would be genuinely negative from the individual gazelle's point of view.
But this delves into much bigger subjects, such as the reason for our existence here in a world whose very nature is inherently predatorial.
