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The Official Paracast Political Thread! — Part Four

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marduk said:
Do you go outside, Pixel?

If so, you're taking far more risks than vaccinating and make irrational choices.
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Both my kids and both my girlfriends kids are vaccine injured. All 4 were healthy babies meeting all milestones etc.. after vaccinations they all developed problems with one of my kids and one of hers on the autism spectrum. Luckily both are mild injuries.
Don't fall for the fake science. Vaccines are extremely dangerous and do injure and kill.
 
pixelsmith said:
Both my kids and both my girlfriends kids are vaccine injured. All 4 were healthy babies meeting all milestones etc.. after vaccinations they all developed problems with one of my kids and one of hers on the autism spectrum. Luckily both are mild injuries.
Don't fall for the fake science. Vaccines are extremely dangerous and do injure and kill.
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Here's a list of all the peer reviewed and data based articles supporting Pixel's position. I apologize for the length, but it's important that we review these documents to understand where he's coming from. Lost of great information here:
 
pixelsmith said:
I work on an organic farm. I am outside far more than you.
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Farming is very dangerous. I know, I grew up on one.

It's probably three or more orders of magnitude more dangerous than vaccines so why are you so willing to accept this risk and not that risk?

Interestingly, the number one threat to small farms past industrialized farming is climate change. Which you also aren't worried about.

You're a walking contradiction.
 
Finally, to everyone wanting to argue the correct point with an anti-vaxxer and climate change denier, don't. Anything you present, they will have a counter that isn't based in reality, but is completely convincing to them.
It's psychology.
 
Angel of Ioren said:
Finally, to everyone wanting to argue the correct point with an anti-vaxxer and climate change denier, don't. Anything you present, they will have a counter that isn't based in reality, but is completely convincing to them.
It's psychology.
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Which is why I'm so fascinated by his behaviour.
 
marduk said:
Which is why I'm so fascinated by his behaviour.
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That's why I'm sticking around this thread.

The thing is, I actually like Pixel - like Gene said earlier, he's a nice guy. I've had great conversations with him in private and we sometimes agree on certain things. I think he has a few blind spots though, and I hope that he eventually looks at the facts and realizes he's on the wrong side of these arguments.
 
Angel of Ioren said:
That's why I'm sticking around this thread.

The thing is, I actually like Pixel - like Gene said earlier, he's a nice guy. I've had great conversations with him in private and we sometimes agree on certain things. I think he has a few blind spots though, and I hope that he eventually looks at the facts and realizes he's on the wrong side of these arguments.
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It's not a like or dislike scenario for me.

I'm fascinated by the irrationality that is simultaneously self-referential and yet self-unaware.

I'm also curious if it translates into other aspects of his life, or is constrained and directed into areas that are convenient for his ego or economic incentives.

In other words, is it willful blindness because it's convenient or is it systemic?

Honestly Pixel I'd love to buy you a beer and hear you out.
 
Angel of Ioren said:
In case you're wondering, Del Bigtree (the champ in the video) produced the documentary Vaxxed, which also involved Andrew Wakefeild, who faked research on the MMR vaccine so that he could promote the vaccine he developed. So, we can trust someone who is a known liar, or look at the actual scientific data which has been reviewed over and over again.
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You are the liar Angelo. Dr Wakefield did not fake anything. In fact the other Doctor dragged thru the muck had insurance to cover court costs to clear his name. He didn't even say MMR caused autism if you bothered to actually check. The movie vaxxed is very important in that it help expose the actual lies and data destruction by the CDC by one of its lead scientists Dr William Thompson who is being kept from testifying against the CDC.
Stop being so ignorant and maybe spend 3 bucks to watch vaxxed online then maybe what you say would have any value whatsoever.
 
marduk said:
Farming is very dangerous. I know, I grew up on one.

It's probably three or more orders of magnitude more dangerous than vaccines so why are you so willing to accept this risk and not that risk?

Interestingly, the number one threat to small farms past industrialized farming is climate change. Which you also aren't worried about.

You're a walking contradiction.
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Only a real stupid person would think humans are causing climate change or could stop it from happening again.
 
The video by Del is verifiable and accurate. Can you experts tell me what part isn't? No you can't.
 
pixelsmith said:
Only a real stupid person would think humans are causing climate change or could stop it from happening again.
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I would refrase that as even a real stupid person could understand that we are causing climate change and can impact climate going forward.

You are not stupid Pixel.

This is not a debate any more than smoking is.

This conversation is no longer about vaccines or climate change. It's about a profound rejection of reality.
 
Mumps
Measles
German measles
Chicken pox
I grew up with these. My children have been spared bouts with these. Vaccines made it possible for them to live happy heathy lives you want a reason I believe in vaccines? I give you 5
Katin daisy
Deborah jasmine
Ian willam
Christopher Robert
Samantha Justine watson
Peace
Bob

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marduk said:
I would refrase that as even a real stupid person could understand that we are causing climate change and can impact climate going forward.

You are not stupid Pixel.

This is not a debate any more than smoking is.

This conversation is no longer about vaccines or climate change. It's about a profound rejection of reality.
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What change of climate gave humans caused and what caused it. I was told in 1970 we were going to freeze. Scientists came up with a plan to spread carbon on the glaciers and poles.
I actually lean towards that possibility since we are currently in an interglacial period of the current ice age.

It was settled science then. Just like today. I remember Doctors recommended smoking cigarettes because the science was settled on its safety.

Sorry but you are being stupid.... and gullible.
 
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When some says a debate on science is over or the science is settled then you know they not talking about science but simply a belief system.


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pixelsmith said:
When some says a debate on science is over or the science is settled then you know they not talking about science but simply a belief system.


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Ah.

So gravity, thermodynamics, and heleiocentrism are belief systems?
 
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