The Official Paracast Political Thread! — Part Four

[pixelsmith]

The stuff they never told us...
The 1918 Influenza Epidemic was a Vaccine-caused Disease


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[pixelsmith]

Extremely interesting article. Follow the links for more education.
How I Became Anti-Vaccine.


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[marduk]

We can start with the USA because global stats are misleading.
“During the last 10 years, there has been one death from measles, but that patient was an adult woman who was on immunosuppressive medications and had other serious health problems. (But between) 2000 and 2017, there were 156 deaths related to the MMR vaccine.”
More people died from the vaccine than the disease.

Nope.

One.

That was likely an allergic reaction.

You haven't answered the question: would you give yourself polio to avoid polio?

Because that's what you did from measles.

 

[marduk]

As you can see measles was taking care of itself well before the vaccine.
The graph for polio is nearly the same except for the spike after the vaccine was introduce that was caused by the vaccine itself.

I can scientifically blow away any rebuttal you have to vaccine safety and efficacy.


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You haven't rebutted one.

Are you seriously this clueless?

 

[Angel of Ioren]

The stuff they never told us...
The 1918 Influenza Epidemic was a Vaccine-caused Disease


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That's some hard core scientific data from that site! I also love the 9/11 theories they talk about. Something I find interesting. If you draw a Venn diagram of 9/11 truthers, anti-vaxxers, and climate-change deniers, you essentially get a perfect circle.

 

[marduk]

The stuff they never told us...
The 1918 Influenza Epidemic was a Vaccine-caused Disease


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Lol.

That's not even worthy of a response.

Go live your life, I give up. I hope you find more success farming then you ever will with any endeavour requiring logic or reason.

 

[mike]

If you draw a Venn diagram of 9/11 truthers, anti-vaxxers, and climate-change deniers, you essentially get a perfect circle.

Lol.

 

[pixelsmith]

Nope.

One.

That was likely an allergic reaction.

You haven't answered the question: would you give yourself polio to avoid polio?

Because that's what you did from measles.

I did it with mumps too. I will never have either and will never spread either by shedding like you could.

 

[pixelsmith]

I am sorry for you guys and what you have done to you and your children. You are sick people.


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"In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual."

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President Trump's Approval Rating Hit Another New Low

 

[marduk]

I am sorry for you guys and what you have done to you and your children. You are sick people.


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I sincerely hope typhoid mary here doesn't accidentally kill or seriously harm anyone - children especially - with his own brand of "science" and "facts" that he likes to pull out of his nether regions.

Watching the Comey show Pixel? Where's the "Fake News" now?

 

[EricTheRed]

I'm a little late to the discussion, but it seems to me that if you locate yourself in the climate change denialist camp then every other complex topic you wish to comment on--vaccines for example--is deeply suspect.

The denialist position on climate change basically requires either belief in a highly improbabe conspiracy involving scientists around the world, universities, academic journals, academies of science, government and professional bodies, journalists, graduate students, etc., or the belief in a wildly improbable assumption--which is that people smarter and more informed than the denialist are nevertheless blind to some basic errors that only the denialist understands. Both dubious beliefs could be at work in the denialist imagination.

 

[pixelsmith]

I'm a little late to the discussion, but it seems to me that if you locate yourself in the climate change denialist camp then every other complex topic you wish to comment on--vaccines for example--is deeply suspect.

The denialist position on climate change basically requires either belief in a highly improbabe conspiracy involving scientists around the world, universities, academic journals, academies of science, government and professional bodies, journalists, graduate students, etc., or the belief in a wildly improbable assumption--which is that people smarter and more informed than the denialist are nevertheless blind to some basic errors that only the denialist understands. Both dubious beliefs could be at work in the denialist imagination.

I do not deny climate change. You do. Think about it.

 

[pixelsmith]

I will just leave this here.
BREAKING NEWS: Tainted Mandatory Measles Vaccination Has Killed 15 Children


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[Angel of Ioren]

I will just leave this here.
BREAKING NEWS: Tainted Mandatory Measles Vaccination Has Killed 15 Children


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Look at the actual new story - the issue is syringes being reused, not the vaccine. So this was a problem due to negligence on the part of procedures. Not the vaccine. In fact, Abdulmumini Usman, the South Sudan country director for the World Health Organization is quoted as saying, "This campaign is lifesaving." SO you just showed how you twist the facts to fit your narrative.

 

[pixelsmith]

Look at the actual new story - the issue is syringes being reused, not the vaccine. So this was a problem due to negligence on the part of procedures. Not the vaccine. In fact, Abdulmumini Usman, the South Sudan country director for the World Health Organization is quoted as saying, "This campaign is lifesaving." SO you just showed how you twist the facts to fit your narrative.

I didn't twist anything.
Measles is no big deal. Everyone I knew growing up got it. No one died.

 

[EricTheRed]

I didn't twist anything.
Measles is no big deal. Everyone I knew growing up got it. No one died.

Do you appreciate that this is irrelevant? That the basis for any informed discussion about the efficacy of vaccines is not personal anecdote but epidemiology and public health research?

 

[pixelsmith]

Do you appreciate that this is irrelevant? That the basis for any informed discussion about the efficacy of vaccines is not personal anecdote but epidemiology and public health research?

Yes of course. That is why over a dozen CDC scientists have come forward with complaints of fraud, data destruction and unsafe vaccines.

 

[mike]

Look at the actual new story - the issue is syringes being reused, not the vaccine. So this was a problem due to negligence on the part of procedures. Not the vaccine. In fact, Abdulmumini Usman, the South Sudan country director for the World Health Organization is quoted as saying, "This campaign is lifesaving." SO you just showed how you twist the facts to fit your narrative.

And did you notice he completely dodges the needle issue in his reply.
The denialist will deny they are wrong even when they can see it right in front of them.

 

[mike]