Creepy Green Light
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Yep.
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The Official Paracast Political Thread! — Part Two
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DaveM
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He Hope(d) twice.
Paul Kimball
Paranormal Adept
I learned long ago not to debate folks whose political knowledge and experience I just don't respect (as you obviously don't respect mine). So we'll just have to agree to disagree on pretty much everything.
But thank you for the kind words via-a-vis the film.
marduk
quelling chaos since 2352BC
OK now this stuff is just pissing me off.
Thousands join anti-Trump protests around U.S.
Where were these people before the idiot was elected.
Thousands join anti-Trump protests around U.S.
Where were these people before the idiot was elected.
Ezechiel
Paranormal Adept
Protests tonite: Los Angeles, Chicago, New York, Winston-Salem, Seattle, Oakland, Philadelphia.
US election: Donald Trump's presidential win sparks tense protests across major US cities – live
Some peeps are slowly waking up from a shock election. Who wants to bet that this might degenerate with a spark?
Some analysts are putting the blame on protest votes against a perceived corrupted government and establishment. If that's the case, this circus election has nothing to do with democracy but more a movement to provoke some kind of shakeup. Unfortunately, a civil war in this pathetic context is possible.
Donald Trump is clearly unacceptable as a president and Hillary Clinton was sadly inadequate and unable to decode the movement behind Donald Trump. Concentrating on the man instead of understanding his followers. Focusing on the indecency of Donald Trump instead of who is supporting him and why he was getting so much support is Hillary's and the media's fatal mistake.
The outside perception is that the red conservative wave is the voice of uneducated red neck 'hillbillies', fired up by Trump, heading to the voting booth. That idea makes absolutely no sense. This is clearly a call for revolution and it's the only logical reason why a nation would dare elect a such a repulsive character.
A majority of 'The People' has been convinced that the situation is bad enough to flush the established system at the risk of major disruption. One simple explosive outcome of the election of Trump: The nomination of a conservative supreme court justice (resulting in a majority) imposing retrograde decisions on urban environments.... good luck with that ! Imposing a reversal of Roe vs Wade on the 50% that didn't vote for Trump ?... or pushing intelligent design in schools across the USA ? Holy bananas... Building a wall to stop Mexican vegetable pickers from doing the job no one wants to do ?
The level of frustration, hate, intolerance, racism, sexism... etc, that tainted this election should invalidate it. You can't move forward with this formula.
Does not compute !
US election: Donald Trump's presidential win sparks tense protests across major US cities – live
Some peeps are slowly waking up from a shock election. Who wants to bet that this might degenerate with a spark?
Some analysts are putting the blame on protest votes against a perceived corrupted government and establishment. If that's the case, this circus election has nothing to do with democracy but more a movement to provoke some kind of shakeup. Unfortunately, a civil war in this pathetic context is possible.
Donald Trump is clearly unacceptable as a president and Hillary Clinton was sadly inadequate and unable to decode the movement behind Donald Trump. Concentrating on the man instead of understanding his followers. Focusing on the indecency of Donald Trump instead of who is supporting him and why he was getting so much support is Hillary's and the media's fatal mistake.
The outside perception is that the red conservative wave is the voice of uneducated red neck 'hillbillies', fired up by Trump, heading to the voting booth. That idea makes absolutely no sense. This is clearly a call for revolution and it's the only logical reason why a nation would dare elect a such a repulsive character.
A majority of 'The People' has been convinced that the situation is bad enough to flush the established system at the risk of major disruption. One simple explosive outcome of the election of Trump: The nomination of a conservative supreme court justice (resulting in a majority) imposing retrograde decisions on urban environments.... good luck with that ! Imposing a reversal of Roe vs Wade on the 50% that didn't vote for Trump ?... or pushing intelligent design in schools across the USA ? Holy bananas... Building a wall to stop Mexican vegetable pickers from doing the job no one wants to do ?
The level of frustration, hate, intolerance, racism, sexism... etc, that tainted this election should invalidate it. You can't move forward with this formula.
Does not compute !
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ALPHA ROMEO UNIFORM
Whittingham
Sad way to greet the New US President the protest will divide the great nation and Police and Civilian lives will be taken at expense of extreme left they should be ashamed of themselves it was won by Democratic Elected Republican President and they should listen to Mrs Clinton support their New President. What a bad message to send to the rest of the World.
Ezechiel
Paranormal Adept
Absolutely, if these democrats had any brains, they'd let Trump self-destruct. It's obvious that he'll trip up with his big mouth within his first month in office... I'd put 100$ that he's impeached in the first 6 months.
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Donald Trump working within the confines of the existing Republican establishment... dream on lol. Try putting a straight jacket on a wild horse... good maybe for the length of an acceptance speech lmao
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Its all relative though, i would guess that were Trump to have lost and with his "rigged" claims priming his supporters we would have seen riots of an even greater magnitude had Hillary won.
But lets for the sake of argument posit this devolves into another civil war (not like it hasnt happened before) the military will put it down. The only counter in that scenario would be the militias the preppers and the like. But they are more likely to be trump supporters in the main, so an effective civil army isnt likely to take up arms in protest at the election result.
But lets for the sake of argument posit this devolves into another civil war (not like it hasnt happened before) the military will put it down. The only counter in that scenario would be the militias the preppers and the like. But they are more likely to be trump supporters in the main, so an effective civil army isnt likely to take up arms in protest at the election result.
The democrats really shot themselves in the foot in the way this was run.
And before i start i want to again reiterate i didnt endorse either candidate, i did predict Trump would win but also made it very clear it was because of a deeper dynamic that had nothing to do with the personalitys or policys. This was about public sentiment not the candidates. A sentiment thats bigger than just US politics. Le Penn will be next in france, and merkel is going to get shafted soon too.
But it was the 3rd debate iirc and hillary stood there and said "When - I - am - President", not should you the people give me the honour of being president.
Confidence is one thing, but that self assured its already mine arrogance was flabergasting to me.
Then when Trump started whinging about "rigged" Obama comes out and says stop whining and get on with explaining your policys
But when the FBI reopened their enquiry, the democrat camp started ..... whining and stopped explaining their policys.
When Trump said he might not concede on the night, Hillary was all over him , outraged he would defy convention, yet her concession speech, traditionally given on the night and before the winners acceptance speech, was delayed overnight.
A lot of do as i say but not as i do.
I recall watching her final campaign speechs and saying to my wife thats a terrible strategy, It was all "trump is bad, trump hates women, minority's and lolcats"
Imagine going to a job interview and instead of telling the potential new boss about how good your experience is, how well you did in your last role and how you want the chance to show him how great you could be in the role. You instead told him how bad all the other applicants waiting outside were.
You get the job by selling your self in a positive light, not badmouthing the other applicants.
The hypocrisy and arrogance of the democratic campaign was deplorable....lol
She wasnt asking the electorate for a chance to be their POTUS, she trully believed the voting process was just a rubber stamping of what she figured was already hers by right.
That "we know better than you the people" dynamic is whats been driving the electoral revolutions in the west lately. That they couldnt grasp and factor that into their game plan is what cost them the game
In Australias last election a number of right wing nationalist partys ran about 6 as i recall. One of them One Nation, did very well the others didnt. But come the next election One nation will be the focus for all those who agree with their sentiments. All the votes that went to the other 5 Ultra nationalist partys will go to One nation, all the people who had far right sympathys but who felt their vote would have been wasted in voting for such small startup partys will have a focal point for real change in One nation next time.
Is in todays press
And before i start i want to again reiterate i didnt endorse either candidate, i did predict Trump would win but also made it very clear it was because of a deeper dynamic that had nothing to do with the personalitys or policys. This was about public sentiment not the candidates. A sentiment thats bigger than just US politics. Le Penn will be next in france, and merkel is going to get shafted soon too.
But it was the 3rd debate iirc and hillary stood there and said "When - I - am - President", not should you the people give me the honour of being president.
Confidence is one thing, but that self assured its already mine arrogance was flabergasting to me.
Then when Trump started whinging about "rigged" Obama comes out and says stop whining and get on with explaining your policys
But when the FBI reopened their enquiry, the democrat camp started ..... whining and stopped explaining their policys.
When Trump said he might not concede on the night, Hillary was all over him , outraged he would defy convention, yet her concession speech, traditionally given on the night and before the winners acceptance speech, was delayed overnight.
A lot of do as i say but not as i do.
I recall watching her final campaign speechs and saying to my wife thats a terrible strategy, It was all "trump is bad, trump hates women, minority's and lolcats"
Imagine going to a job interview and instead of telling the potential new boss about how good your experience is, how well you did in your last role and how you want the chance to show him how great you could be in the role. You instead told him how bad all the other applicants waiting outside were.
You get the job by selling your self in a positive light, not badmouthing the other applicants.
The hypocrisy and arrogance of the democratic campaign was deplorable....lol
She wasnt asking the electorate for a chance to be their POTUS, she trully believed the voting process was just a rubber stamping of what she figured was already hers by right.
That "we know better than you the people" dynamic is whats been driving the electoral revolutions in the west lately. That they couldnt grasp and factor that into their game plan is what cost them the game
In Australias last election a number of right wing nationalist partys ran about 6 as i recall. One of them One Nation, did very well the others didnt. But come the next election One nation will be the focus for all those who agree with their sentiments. All the votes that went to the other 5 Ultra nationalist partys will go to One nation, all the people who had far right sympathys but who felt their vote would have been wasted in voting for such small startup partys will have a focal point for real change in One nation next time.
Is in todays press
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Creepy Green Light
Paranormal Adept
I should find my post from months ago where I predicted that Trump would win. I had a feeling.
kanakaris
Paranormal Adept
The popular vote is irrelevant?
The one with the most votes , loses.
Why is this ?And do you think this is fair ?
ALPHA ROMEO UNIFORM
Whittingham
Two US Police officers have been shot and one has passed on sending our blessings to thier families , fellow officers . I hope there is no more tonight and these protestors should be ashamed .
SRL+
Paranormal Adept
Due to protests?
Is this what you're referring to?
1 Officer Dead, 1 Wounded In Canonsburg Shooting
If so, it has nothing to do with protesters.
Is this what you're referring to?
1 Officer Dead, 1 Wounded In Canonsburg Shooting
If so, it has nothing to do with protesters.
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The counter-argument is that the Electoral College is more fair to smaller states, because otherwise candidates would work to win in New York, California, Texas, etc., and not care what happens elsewhere. Remember the losing candidate got the most votes in 2000 too.
SRL+
Paranormal Adept
And the American public got the shaft, as who could possibly ever forget Mr. “smoke em’ out”, Bush, in referring to the war in Afghanistan.
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ALPHA ROMEO UNIFORM
Whittingham
No and the protest are not connect rather the arressts due other incidents ongoing. Rememberance Day tomorrow not bothered with you crap.
DaveM
Paranormal Adept
I never said it was fair. The rules are using the Electoral College system. If you have a problem with it, get it changed.
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