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Yeah that wall...... Not going to happen. I was watching a TV show on the border force the other day and the terrain is just too vast and difficult, they are already flat out detecting the tunnels under what walls you do have.

It wont work and it would be a waste of a vast amount of money to try.

A halt on Islamic immigration. Thats doable and in the current climate sensible imo.

Islamic ideology calls on the faithful to kill the unbelievers, not in and of itself a problem,(the bible and Torah do to) But here in the 21st century enough beleivers are acting on the instructions to create a sense of clear and present danger.

Im sure australia is like the US in that every known religion is represented in the social fabric.
But this one in particular is being problematic in the extreme where the others are not.

Its that old adage again not all muslims are terrorists, but a significant portion of the terrorism the world has seen lately has been islamic in its nature.

Islam is going to have to undergo a reformation,(as Christianity did) and thats not an easy proposition. It is happening but you wont see imo significant reforms in our lifetimes that will see this issue go away

The irony is the populist revolution and islamic extremism are both born of the same dynamic. a sense that now is our time to make a change to the established order
That I/Me/WE have been marginalized by THEM for too long and now is the time to rise up and change it

So, what do you do with the existing Muslim population?

According to Canada's 2011 National Household Survey, there were 1,053,945

According to the 2011 Australian Census, the combined number of Muslims in Australia from all forms of Islam constituted 476,291 people

According to a new estimate in 2016, there are 3.3 million Muslims living in the United States, about 1% of the total U.S. population.
 
Ya gotta understand, ISIS wants the USA to ban immigration and go all hell bent on the Islam = evil schtick.

Because a ISIS doesn't give a F about America.

It's waging a war all right. On Islamic moderation in the Middle East.

And you guys going Neanderthal makes them the only game in town that will protect the faithful.

This is a complex aspect of the global situation
The religion of peace refers to a specific Koranic prophecy that says the world can only know peace, when everyone is a muslim, either converted or killed off.
To their world view its the solution to all the problems that the world is seeing manifest from the pressures of overpopulation and competition for resources.

Once all the unbelievers are dead, and every last man woman and child is a muslim, then and only then allahs justice system will work for the planet earth and peace will reign
 
So, what do you do with the existing Muslim population?

According to Canada's 2011 National Household Survey, there were 1,053,945

According to the 2011 Australian Census, the combined number of Muslims in Australia from all forms of Islam constituted 476,291 people

According to a new estimate in 2016, there are 3.3 million Muslims living in the United States, about 1% of the total U.S. population.

Nothing, you cant deport them, you cant inter them like we did with the japanese and germans in WW2. We can only manage the problem as best we can and hope Islam reforms itself sooner rather than later. But in the interim it makes sense to stop importing more of them

Could an Islamic “Reformation” pacify Islam?

As should be plain to anyone who has examined the Islamic sources, to take the violence out of Islam would require it to jettison two things: the Quran as the word of Allah and Muhammad as Allah’s prophet. In other words, to pacify Islam would require its transformation into something that it is not. The Western Christian Reformation, that is often used as an example, was an attempt (successful or not) to recover the essence of Christianity, namely, the example and teachings of Christ and the Apostles. Trying to get back to the example of Muhammad would have very different consequences. Indeed, one may say that Islam is today going through its “Reformation” with the increasing jihadist activity around the globe. Today, Muslims of the Salafi (“early generations”) school are doing exactly that in focusing on the life of Muhammad and his early successors. These reformers are known to their detractors by the derogative term Wahhabi. Drawing their inspiration from Muhammad and the Quran, they are invariably disposed to violence. The unhappy fact is that Islam today is what it has been fourteen centuries: violent, intolerant, and expansionary. It is folly to think that we, in the course of a few years or decades, are going to be able to change the basic world outlook of a foreign civilization. Islam’s violent nature must be accepted as given; only then will we be able to come up with appropriate policy responses that can improve our chances of survival.

Islam 101
 
Is there any crime associated with Muslims in Australia that you know of?

Are you kidding ? We are passing new laws to keep islamic terrorists (our jails are full of them) in jail indefinitely....... The australian federal police are foiling terrorist attacks on a regular basis.

We have a very very bad problem here in australia

muslim riots sydney - Bing images

Pictures worth a thousand words
 
This is a complex aspect of the global situation
The religion of peace refers to a specific Koranic prophecy that says the world can only know peace, when everyone is a muslim, either converted or killed off.
To their world view its the solution to all the problems that the world is seeing manifest from the pressures of overpopulation and competition for resources.

Once all the unbelievers are dead, and every last man woman and child is a muslim, then and only then allahs justice system will work for the planet earth and peace will reign
Sure.

On the Arab crescent.

They're not going to invade to do anything but keep you out of there.

And they're never going to get over their internal squabbles. Except to keep you out.
 
No, but now I understand.
Ethnic crime: Muslim

Yep

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The one listed as freed went to syria took his kids and this is the result

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This guy married Khaled Sharroufs daughter

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All australians
 
If you want to know if we have a problem, indefinite detention, thats unheard off, its totally against what our justice system is supposed to be. Thats how bad its got
 

The movie wasnt even australian made, this is how local islamists reacted to something that happened overseas that offended them
 
15 people jailed isn't exactly a crime wave.
Its more than that now, and an individual Jihadi can kill plenty if his plans work out, some of them are in jail for a plot to crash a small plane into Sydneys small nuclear reactor (makes medical isotopes) in the hopes the plume of radioactivity would render large parts of Sydney uninhabitable.
I know you guys are numbed to this shit after 911, but this shocks us downunder
 
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Why ?
Why would they offer us this violence when we have taken them and their culture as we do all cultures with open arms ?

The answer is my question is irrelevant, Hardline islamic ideology doesnt give a crap about that, its focused on its ideological goals and nothing gets in its way
 
You saw it though, right?

Yes we have a problem in our jails, the mental cancer that is hardline islamic ideology cant just be locked up, that doesnt fix it. Indeed the very petri dish that is prison with its nutters and its misfits are the perfect spawning ground for its ideas
 
Community under siege

Muslim jailhouse converts on the rise

12:00AM June 20, 2015

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Muslims are over-represented in Australian prisons, with increasing numbers of inmates undergoing jailhouse conversions to gain the protection of Islamic groups behind bars.

In Victoria and NSW, 8 per cent and 9 per cent of the respective prison populations identify as Muslim, compared with 2.2 per cent and 3 per cent of the general populations. The percentage of Muslim inmates in Queensland is far lower, at 1.5 per cent.

Prison employees, who spoke confidentially to The Weekend Australian, say they are seeing increasing numbers of white and Aboriginal prisoners converting to Islam in jail.

Muslim groups have become increasingly influential in NSW prisons and — like other prison gangs — are often involved in the drug trade, extortion and gambling, these sources said.

“I think the conversion (to Islam) is not really a religious conversion. It’s to cover what you’re doing and to get a network behind you,” one prison worker said. “It’s to be part of something. You think that you’re important.”

Obtaining accurate figures for the number of conversions is impossible, although prison sources suggest a single NSW jail may see three or four a month.

Academics say previous public attention on the conversion of Aboriginal prisoners to Islam and the prospect this may be linked to radicalisation has been overblown.

Kuranda Seyit, a spokesman for the Islamic Council of Victoria, said survival in jail often required affiliation with a group, whether “white, Aboriginal, Vietnamese, Pacific Islander or Muslim”.

“A lot of the leaders of these groups put on the skull cap and grow a beard and create this sense that they are very important from their religious identity,” he said.

Identifying specific groups in the system is difficult. Authorities regularly move inmates between jails to prevent gangs becoming established, and gangs inside do not simply reflect the identities of those on the outside.

One of the few academics to study Islam in Australian jails, University of Western Sydney’s Michael Kennedy, said the fact Muslims were over-represented reflected recent immigration.

“If you go back over the last 50 years, every new group of immigrants is over-represented in the prison population,” he said.

Each wave of immigrants had become involved in organised crime, often forming gangs defined by family and ethnic ties.

“They’re prepared to do anything to prevent them going back to where they came from,” Professor Kennedy said.

“They get caught and they end up in jail. Most recently, you are seeing arrivals from Muslim countries which are currently conflict zones, meaning their social dislocation and disadvantage is even more stark.”

Criminologists say there are about 10 dominant Middle Eastern crime families in Sydney, controlling tens of millions of dollars in drug revenue annually. In the past decade, members have been increasingly likely to co-operate with other families, bikies or East Asian crime gangs.
 
So you look at the video i posted, these individuals have not assimilated into Australian society, they hold themselves separate.
Funny story
It gets very hot down here, a woman waiting at a bus stop sees another woman in full burka and asks her
"aren't you hot in that ?"
Yes the burka clad woman replied , you get used to it

And so will you.........

Combine that attitude with the islamic terrorism that making the news, is it any wonder the populace are wary of accepting more immigrants of that nature ?
 
Personally i think we are seeing easter island on a planetary scale
we are already using more resources than the planet can replenish, and more and more people are being displaced and marginalized as they strive to survive.

The marginalized are perfect breeding grounds for extremism and populist nationalism

Trumps policys reflect that, we will look after us first, they can come second.

Its the dynamic we should expect to see manifest as the resources get scarcer.
 
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