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Well I guess this property is a big deal and very important to him but if he went out to stomp for a new candy bar of his, which surprises me that he hasn't at this point, I'd certainly have reason to question his commitment to the us citizens.
 
Obama is not the problem. The problem has been Congress, and a lot more. Consider these figures -

The GOP currently controls -
- 248 out of 440 seats in the House
- 54 out of 100 seats in the Senate
- 31 out of 50 Governorships
- 70 out of 99 State Chambers

The problems of this country - certainly economically - are at the feet of the Republicans. Reagan in his first term reduced tax on those who could pay from 70% to 28% - but started to tax social security. Think about that - he went after the elderly on fixed incomes.

As we speak, House Republicans are planning 'years of investigations' against Hillary to clog up government and spend our tax dollars. This makes sense? When they claim there is no money for the poor, for children, for education?

There is more than enough evidence to indict the Bush/Cheney administration on not just lying, but treason, yet - nothing. Hillary can't even come close to what the Bush/Cheney folks did.

There's been an analysis of her statements and she lies 28% of the time - she is one of the lowest of all politicians (Bernie's the best). Trump lies a whopping 80% of the time. :rolleyes: Methinks peoples' standards waffle to suit.
 
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The bottom line: Hillary is a life long career criminal politician with a record that's as clear as the nose on anyone's face that has posted in this forum.
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Not quite. She's a politician for sure, and she plays the game as good as any man (as it happens), but she is far from criminal. Tell me, were you happy to vote for Bush/Cheney?
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If you possess one shred of either honesty, or integrity, you can no more deny this than you can the fact that Trump @Tyger has never been an active politician prior to this election.
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An active politician, as in 'on his resume', no. But Trump is political and has always been. He's as corrupt as they come. He's a nasty businessman. Take a gander at his business practices across the decades.
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Make of that what you will, but no, Trump has absolutely no history of being an Oligarchic puppet.
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Putting Putin aside (if that's possible), what about Saudi Arabia? The guy's got you snowed.
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The money over which he has sole command is far and away substantial enough to maintain a separate posture from them.
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What makes you think he has 'sole command' of borrowed money? Because he says so? What makes you think that he can maintain a 'separate posture' from powerful monied interests? He depends on them - they routinely get him out of trouble. Just scan Trump's business dealings - he's pretty much tied up with all kinds of back-deals - far from a 'free' man.

Also, exactly how 'substantial' is his money? Do you know - except through his say-so? If that's the case, then you know nothing. You're basing your hopes on bombastic claims that have never been backed up.
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If you you want things in the USA to progressively continue into the nearest toilet as they have been for the last 60 years, vote for Hillaryous.
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60 years? You place 'the problems' starting in 1956? You've lost me.

It's generally conceded that real trouble started in the 1970's, and definitley in the 1980's with Reagan.
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If you don't want matters to continue as they have, vote for Trump.
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Definitely don't vote for Trump. If you want change - vote in a new Congress - that's the solution to all the problems. Trump will merely game the US like he has gamed his businesses.
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Whether or not anything changes for the better is a complete uncertainty.
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Well, that's an intelligent reason for making that choice. [sarcasm] Risk your country with a seriously ignorant man because the Congress (and your state government) has let you down. Wrong!
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However, not voting for him is an absolute assurance of matters getting worse.
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Not at all - it means the Republicans cannot do their absolute worst. However, they can still do mischief - and that's the on-going problem until the Congress is cleaned up. So, yes, we will have to watch as Congress grinds through piles of money to block government from working.
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If a person has "faith" in what is the basic current state of political affairs in the USA you are indeed a VERY sad case.
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We for sure have problems - and those problems are being played for all their worth (and made worse) by unscruplous politicians in Congress and around the country. The answer is not in a man like Trump whose grasp of events is very narrow and self serving. He is the worst of what ails the Congress on steroids. There is nothing 'different' about Trump. You're looking at your worst nightmare.

Have you seen this? He once sang Hillary's praises - called her honest. How times change.
 
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Not quite. She's a politician for sure, and she plays the game as good as any man (as it happens), but she is far from criminal. Tell me, were you happy to vote for Bush/Cheney?

An active politician, as in 'on his reume', no. But Trump is political and has always been. He's as corrupt as they come. He's a nasty businessman. Take a gander at his business practices across the decades.

Putting Putin aside (if that's possible), what about Saudi Arabia? The guy's got you snowed.

What makes you think he has 'sole command' of borrowed money? Because he says so? What makes you think that he can maintain a 'separate posture' from powerful monied interests? He depends on them - they routinely get him out of trouble. Just scan Trump's buisiness dealings - he's pretty much tied up with all kinds of back-deals - far from a 'free' man.

Also, exactly how 'substantial' is his money? Do you know - except through his say-so? If that's the case, then you know nothing. You're basing your hopes on bombastic claims that have never been backed up.

60 years? You place 'the problems' starting in 1956? You've lost me.

It's generally conceded that real trouble started in the 1970's, and definitley in the 1980's with Reagan.

Definitely don't vote for Trump. If you want change - vote in a new Congress - that's the solution to all the problems. Trump will merely game the US like he has gamed his businesses.

Well, that's an intelligent reason for making that choice. [sarcasm] Risk your country with a seriously ignorant man because the Congress (and your state government) has let you down. Wrong!

Not at all - it means the Republicans cannot do their absolute worst. However, they can still do mischief - and that's the on-going problem until the Congress is cleaned up. So, yes, we will have to watch as Congress grinds through piles of money to block government from working.

We for sure have problems - and those problems are being played for all their worth (and made worse) by unscruplous politicians in Congress and around the country. The answer is not in a man like Trump whose grasp of events is very narrow and self serving. He is the worst of what ails the Congress on steroids. There is nothing 'different' about Trump. You're looking at your worst nightmare.

Have you seen this? He once sang Hillary's praises - called her honest. How times change.
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Tyger,
Does it bother you that you didn't produce one single fact in terms of refutation?

I can appreciate and respect your feelings on the matter, however the truth is, and no one has yet shown me a SINGLE fact indicating otherwise, that over throwing the present oligarchically owned and operated farce of a Democratic Republic that "we the sheeple" call it's government, by means of electing the ultra successful American business man, who has NEVER been a professional politician prior, that is Donald Trump, as opposed to the utter EVIL that the Clintons have been clearly shown to be representative of, has NOTHING to do with the touchy feelies.

If you live in the United States, and you work hard each and every day for a living, pay your taxes, and responsibly carry on with life as do millions and millions of Americans that are clearly and progressively taken advantage of here every year. And then if you can sit there, or stand there, and can look me in the eye and tell me that you are just fine with matters political and social as they have been for the last several decades in this country, then you go right ahead and vote for Clinton. Then gimme some of whatever it is you are on, cause myself and the rest of the those aforementioned majority of hard working, tax paying, people, are going to need it to keep us from burning DC to the ground should her criminal ass get elected.

You have no idea the level of sheer hate that the average American has for the criminal organization that is the Clinton Foundation.
 
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