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Angel of Ioren said:
No matter how much evidence is presented, you will never let go of your conspiracy theories, will you. Think of how you perceive people that believe every word of the bible? Are you picturing it? Well that's how you look when you insist on stuff like this. People died in the plane that hit the Pentagon. Dismissing that is disrespectful to those that lost their lives and their loved ones. I hope you can see that.
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well... how does a 757 with its massive wings and 2 - 9 ton titanium engines fit thru a round hole? how does an aluminum nose cone punch holes thru concrete walls?
 
pixelsmith said:
well... how does a 757 with its massive wings and 2 - 9 ton titanium engines fit thru a round hole? how does an aluminum nose cone punch holes thru concrete walls?
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Momentum + kinetic energy? Kind of like when a straw gets driven into a telephone pole from a tornado.
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Sometimes things that are counterintuitive can happen.

I have looked at the hole in the pentagon and unfortunately I do not see a round hole.
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Unless you have a a picture that shows a round hole I think we better move on from that particular statement.
 
Ron... until you do an ounce of research I think you better not even comment. the photo of the pentagon you supplied is AFTER the collapse of the exterior wall. sheesh.
 
squeeze a 757 thru this hole Ron...
 

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The picture that Ron Collins presented corresponds to a phase where the outer ring had already collapsed due to the fire that followed the impact. I've asked myself many times if a Boeing had actually crashed into the Pentagon at a relatively high speed, it should have touched the ground but there isn't a single photo where the lawn or any structures appears to have been disturbed or destroyed.
 
lancemoody said:
Many of the Truthers have abandoned the ridiculous idea of the hole being too small because it easy to show as a lie.

The whole idea, like most dumbass Truther ideas came about due to dull laypeople thinking that they just might take a stab at physics and aerodynamics. What the hell! Surely they know as much as even the brightest cashier at Best Buy about that stuff.



Unfortunately for the Truthers, we have a real life comparison to the Pentagon crash.
In 1945, a B-25 crashed into the Empire State Building. The resulting hole was 18ft x 20ft. A B-25 has a wingspan of 62ft. DOH! Truther stupidity foiled again!

But maybe a future George Bush went back in time and used mind control rays to force the pilot of that plane to crash? And then the 62ft hole (which any damn fool knows OUGHT to be there) was covered up so the sheeple in 2001 would believe the Pentagon cover story?


Lance
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a question for Lance the Liar, did the Empire state building collapse?
 
Personal battles aside, there's something that would shed away any doubt about what actually hit the Pentagon on September 11, 2001 - the surveillance videos. It's absurd that 10 years after the fact the american people and the world still haven't been presented with precious video evidence that would support the official version of the facts.
 
lancemoody said:
Turn away from the facts at hand and ask another dumb question. Classic buff behavior.
No explanation for the information I related, only an attempt to change the subject.
Did you get those Birther stickers off of your car yet, Pixel?

Lance
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i was asking for more details Liar. Did the Empire State Building collapse?
 
Angel of Ioren said:
Oh, I get it. That's actually pretty funny. That doesn't make your argument any less ridiculous. Also, you still haven't answered what happened to all the people on that air-plane.
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I dont know what happened to the people. What is so ridiculous? have you seen the damage from the aluminum nose cone to the last concrete wall 310 feet away from the exterior wall?
 
Facius_Cardan said:
Personal battles aside, there's something that would shed away any doubt about what actually hit the Pentagon on September 11, 2001 - the surveillance videos. It's absurd that 10 years after the fact the american people and the world still haven't been presented with precious video evidence that would support the official version of the facts.
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Ask that to the people who knew those on the airplane. Where did they end up? Do you think it would be worth it for the government to fire a missile into the pentagon and then say it was an airplane full of people and that terrorist did it? The could have flown a plane into it themselves, or said a terrorist shot a missile.
 
Angel of Ioren said:
Ask that to the people who knew those on the airplane. Where did they end up? Do you think it would be worth it for the government to fire a missile into the pentagon and then say it was an airplane full of people and that terrorist did it? The could have flown a plane into it themselves, or said a terrorist shot a missile.
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I dont know where they are. Now you tell me how a slow moving airliner can get through military and civilian radar systems and crash into the most protected building in the USA. Tell me how we can only have 5 out of sync frames from one video camera on the most heavily guarded and surveilled building in the USA...
 
pixelsmith said:
why? why didnt it collapse into its own footprint at near free fall speed? Unlike WTC 1 and 2 it was NOT designed to withstand multiple airliner strikes.
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Oh boy, here we go. Let's keep the discussion on the pentagon. We already know that you think that the WTC was brought down by controlled demolitions and nothing can convince you of anything else.
 
hey Smartass Liar...
What question would you like answered?

BTW- thank you Angelo for allowing name calling in this thread. It is kinda fun.
 
I don't think it's gotten out of hand.
I was about to tell Lance to not be so sarcastic, but I don't want to be too strict. As long as it doesn't get derogatory, I won't censor anything as silly as calling someone a smartass.
 
Angel of Ioren said:
I don't think it's gotten out of hand.
I was about to tell Lance to not be so sarcastic, but I don't want to be too strict. As long as it doesn't get derogatory, I won't censor anything as silly as calling someone a smartass.
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what about dumbass? is there a list of acceptable derogatory names i was not aware of? I think I made my point about the name calling. I do not need to call Lance a smartass liar anymore. I will try not to stoop to his lower level in future posts.
 
pixelsmith said:
what about dumbass? is there a list of acceptable derogatory names i was not aware of? I think I made my point about the name calling. I do not need to call Lance a smartass liar anymore. I will try not to stoop to his lower level in future posts.
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We're all adults here. Unless someone makes a racist or sexist remark, or anything along those lines, I usually don't intervene. However, if someone has a formal complaint about anything I may have missed, please PM me.
 
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