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The Roswell Slides Steal the Show!

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Just to further the slide procesing discussion, interestingly enough, in 1947 Kodak provided a new processing method for their slides and analysis of the emulsion may provide more specific dating than edge codes. But to pinpoint a film's processing date by year does seem a little odd. You could have processed that film many years later and I would think the expert would have a hard time saying exactly which year it was processed in. Maybe they could say it was processed after 1947 or before 1947 through a chemical analysis, or from examining film quality and measure its results up against the processing type used, but I don't see how you can hang your hat on 1947 vs. 1948, or 1952 etc.. Let's face it, a film could be shot in 1946, developed in 1948 using the new process and how will it look any different than a 1947 image? This part of the story does not sound strong.
Early Kodak Ektachrome
 
Burnt State said:
Fox - didn't they handle Alien Autopsy? Given just how many different shows are out there chasing UFO's and opening up Hanger 1 etc., I'm actually a little surprised that there isn't a deal with any number of stations and entities who are all over the UFO thing in a big way. Is it that their price was too high perhaps?
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The mass media in this country handle this subject as entertainment. They would not carry the whole presentation, and they would likely handle it dismissively. Besides which, this country is known worldwide for its extreme suppression of the ufo subject matter, by both government and the media. If it were up to me, this is the last place I'd choose to present this material to the world.
 
Constance said:
The mass media in this country handle this subject as entertainment. They would not carry the whole presentation, and they would likely handle it dismissively. Besides which, this country is known worldwide for its extreme suppression of the ufo subject matter, by both government and the media. If it were up to me, this is the last place I'd choose to present this material to the world.
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I agree, but then why not the Smithsonian instead of getting all theatrical about it? Still looks like they are going to be putting on a show.
 
Constance said:
Say what? That is to ask, how much have you read of the Roswell research?
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I've watched many tv broadcasts, heard most of the paracast interviews, numerous c2c, open minds interviews, tons with Friedman, and other players. When you learn Stanton Friedman was being fed disinformation from the condors, falcons, mj12 frauds, well, I don't have to believe do I?

I've totally understood the "insanity play" this can do to people such as Bennewitz and LMH. It's rubbed off on everyone touching this with ever more mazes and hallways to get lost in with always a dead end. One can research it for years, and will never find 'a solution' there.

I saved years of time, imo, by watching Mirage Men, Gabe/Greg Valdez interviews and book, Project Beta by Greg Bishop, and probably every audio/video interview available I could find relating to these people mentioned above.

Also, for SF to claim aliens are going to come-a-running because we blew-up atomic bombs and crash nearby is ludicrous once one thinks it through! It's a great shocker sound bite like a magic trick to distract one from the far better reasoning that obliterates this reasoning. IMO.

It's just my opinion. I know you disagree.
 
Burnt State said:
I agree, but then why not the Smithsonian instead of getting all theatrical about it? Still looks like they are going to be putting on a show.
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The Smithsonian, that great truth-telling institution? I doubt the researchers holding the slides would chance it there. The lights would fail and the slides would end up someplace in the basement like a lot of other anomalous historical artifacts.
 
Constance said:
Certainly not. You should think exactly what it pleases you to think.
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Honestly, I don't know what-all to think about all of this. I suffer from too much mind numbing dissonance about it. I'll leave Roswell as a regurgitating story based on fact and fiction and a perfect example of how that confusing mystery can be twisted into an alien avenue with holiday parade entertainment. It saved Roswell from being a nobody dinky town lost in the desert.

In fact, Roswell is where those photos should have been released. Roswell will protect these photo-myths at all costs. Wink.
 
Burnt State said:
The other thing I find actually odd is how it could be specific to 1947? Usually film coding is not year specific but is specific to a group of years and I would think it would be more accurate to say that this film was from a range of years.
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Given the high stakes involved, I was sort of wondering about that as well. Some clarification on the part of whoever has done the analysis would be much appreciated.
 
boomerang said:
Given the high stakes involved, I was sort of wondering about that as well. Some clarification on the part of whoever has done the analysis would be much appreciated.
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One can have a roll of film from 1947, and expose it in another year, and develop it later on in another year too. If the film was kept frozen in a freezer and/or vacuum packed, then it could be exposed years or decades later too! Photographers are known to try and preserve their film.

Maybe someone found the film preserved before being exposed and created this hoax? WHY NOT? Given the insanity in Roswell and UFO's... After all, cattle are always being "mutilated" and sampled by ET-UFO's all over that area and surrounding states! Just ask LMH. :D
 
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The Cinco de Mayo date of the presentation could be significant. It'll be the fifth day of the fifth month of a year ending in five. According to the numbers lady on C2C, the number five represents movement, acceleration, and change. Numerologicaly speaking, if the presenters are hoping the release of the slides will further the cause UFO disclosure, they couldn't have picked a better day.
 
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I'm virtually certain this is just another scam, to discredit the field. Plenty of photos of Roswell and ETs exist but in top secret vaults. It's naive to think critical evidence fell into private hands. Even if it did why did it take this long to come to light? What we've seen is a succession of hoaxes, which require time to prepare.
 
Burnt State said:
But to pinpoint a film's processing date by year does seem a little odd. You could have processed that film many years later and I would think the expert would have a hard time saying exactly which year it was processed in. Maybe they could say it was processed after 1947 or before 1947 through a chemical analysis, or from examining film quality and measure its results up against the processing type used, but I don't see how you can hang your hat on 1947 vs. 1948, or 1952 etc.. Let's face it, a film could be shot in 1946, developed in 1948 using the new process and how will it look any different than a 1947 image?
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From Kevin Randle's website:

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All of this, however, set me to thinking. If the slides were made in 1947, as has been alleged, then what was the motivation for it, if it was a hoax? In other words, why would someone in 1947 make something like that? What would be the purpose?

Then, taking this line of speculation further, and I must point out this is all speculation now, were there any flying saucer cases that hinted at such things, other than Roswell? Well, yes there were. There were many reports of flying saucer crashes, all of them, other than Roswell, seemed to be invention by the participants and few of them talked of alien creatures.

[My comment is anyone with interest would be very curious about those aliens flying their UFO's. A crash? Where are the surviving aliens or dead bodies? :)]

There is one, though, that reached a wide national audience in the late 1940s, and that is, of course, Aztec. Now, I think Aztec was a hoax created by two con men who were attempting to sell some cockamamie metal detector or mineral detector and were claiming that alien technology had been used to create the machine.

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I could point out many of the parallels here. The land where the Aztec crash is claimed to have happened is oil land so that people from Midland involved in oil could have been there just as they could have been over in Roswell. The Aztec crash is alleged to have taken place within months of the Roswell crash, both were in New Mexico, but only Aztec got any real publicity in the late 1940s and early 1950s.

Please don’t misunderstand here. I’m not saying that we can now elevate the Aztec crash to the level of Roswell. I think the evidence is pretty clear. Aztec was a hoax that did include claims of physical evidence. It is not outside the realm of possibility that someone created pictures of alien creatures in an attempt to validate Aztec, and the documentation clearly mentions Aztec.

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What I’m saying is that here we have a motive for the invention of the pictures in the right time frame. We aren’t locked into 1947 and pictures created in 1948 or 1950 for that matter, could have been taken with film made in 1947.

A Different Perspective: The Roswell Slides and the Aztec UFO Crash

The chain of evidence is as follows??? WTFrack, so anyone could have set this up...

Two Kodachrome slides were later found to have been separately hidden in an envelope within the inner lining of the chest’s lid. The chest and its contents were traced and found to have belonged to an intriguing, childless couple that are now deceased.

In Randle's Blog comments I found this:

Anthony Bragalia said...

You are correct. Though the film stock is conclusively dated to a year of manufacture of 1947, it does not say precisely when the picture was actually taken.

[So, in theory, someone buys film in 1947, stores it carefully, takes pictures years later, and could develop it even later too. If the film is stored properly, then one could easily take pictures many years later including 10+ years. 20+ years too? See post just below.]
 
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Someone checked with film processors that do Kodachrome and found out:

My reading of various accounts of exposing old films shows a much wider range, 10-20 years being a rather common figure that still delivered excellent results.

I also called and spoke with several companies that develop old film as a business. They confirmed that MUCH longer times were possible, depending, of course upon many factors.
 
If analysis can't pinpoint an exact year- wouldn't it make sense to give the estimate years ('43 - '52) the film could have been taken. Leave the whole Roswell angle alone. If these images are genuine, why present them with a Roswell connection? It would already be implied considering the location of the couple who had originally owned and stored them. If genuine, why set this up to fail before given a chance to take off via media and other outlets?
 
I don't understand the Roswell angle either. Unless they think they have pics of aliens and thus from Roswell. Perhaps they think they would have feather in their cap but I am not buying that idea.
 
Roswell Alien Slides To Be Unveiled in May Via a Live Streamed Event

Quote: The event will include presenters Dr. Edgar Mitchell, the sixth man on the Moon, as well as noted authors and Roswell investigators Tom Carey and Don Schmitt. Transmitted live from the 10,000 seat National Auditorium in Mexico City, the history and background context of the slides (as well as other facets of the case) will be detailed. Tom Carey, who made international news when he announced the discovery of the slides at American University in Washington, DC last month, will be providing more information and logistical details on the event shortly.

Sorry to hear that Dr. Edgar Mitchell has been roped in.
 
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