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I can tell that this is one of those let's agree to disagree events as I see things entirely differently. What about kicking out all the immigrants and descendants of immigrants so that aboriginal culture can experience a revival and get back to grooving with the land?

You are speaking absolute mythology regarding the role of the immigrant in North America. Both the US and Canada have very restrictive immigration policies like many western countries, and only the skilled and the wealthy and the English proficient speakers can get in. It's all a numbers game now and a rating system. Gone are the days when you could bring over your parents after getting established here - if they can't speak lingo, tough luck.

Keep in mind that any migratory workers, or landed status folk are either working jobs in crappy conditions (picking fruit) that mainstream folk won't do, or are completing skilled trades labour that we don't have & are often taken advantage of in terms of health and safety work conditions and payscale. Immigrants are the only people replacing our population as the birth rate is descending amongst the mainstream populace and without them to pay taxes we're all going to be screwed in terms of social services, national pension plans, old age security etc..

Fear of the immigrant is a false fear altogether. Somehing like 65% of immigrants are the business class bringing money and much needed jobs to our nations. My wife works at immigrant services and I work with immigrant youth. These are the facts. Refugee status is almost impossible to achieve. I won't bother addressing the cultural concerns as from my perspective it is diversity that enhances, strengthens and has continued to develop our two nations to be the innovative powerhouses that they are today.

Why do those who favor social engineering always over complicate the obvious. Stick with reality and where we at right now which is simply in debt beyond your wildest imaginings due to social engineering. We got that way by being "do gooders" and by assuming responsibility like mindless boy fondling priests. Don't give me that crap. We need strength here Burnt State, not weakness in the form of mindless apple pickin' droids. I have no fear of immigrants Burnt State. I married one that became a US citizen when I did 20 years ago. I most likely have as many or more immigrant friends as anyone on this forum. I have NO problem with quality educated immigration. Just don't fill up my country with useless lawn mower pushing, bicycle riding, drug selling, welfare collecting, illegitimate GARBAGE status desperate human beings and expect me to foot the bill. Feck right off and thank you very much. It's just called common sense.

BTW, why do you think that 4 years in the Military is a bad thing for newly naturalizing US citizens under 30? It would sure serve to weed out 90% more shit for brains immigrants than we have stacked to the ceiling and can't afford right now.

Tell you what. Try this out in the virtual science lab at home. Take a balloon and start filling it with water. Then hold the neck of the balloon tight around the faucet while the water continues to fill the balloon. Let me know what happens and then do me a favor. WAKE UP!!! (please) :)

There's that old saying, those that don't stand for something, will fall for anything. I'm done falling Burnt State. I'm done passively watching my beautiful country turning into a 3rd world flop house. It disgusts me.
 
Call me (a) sensitive guy or something, but it hurts me what is going on (deploying millitary 'Berkut' forces against people?!) in the Ukraine. No word from the US yet ?
 
Jeff, I have to sadly say you've taken this discussion to a whole new level of hate that I didn't think you would get to, "garbage status desperate human beings"? Really now, are you actually hearing yourself? You, know, both my wife and I are what I would call pretty productive immigrant people, paying our way, descendants of other immigrants from other times and places as is the bleepin' history of humanity btw, where we do interweave with each other seamlessly over and over again, so we are all connected. I find the notion of painting such a wide swath of human beings as those we need to take strength against? Like what, arms? to be just incomprehensible.

And you were the guy that made me research my own history? Unbelievable. Would you in the Ukraine take arms against your brothers and sisters? Because I'm telling you I'm standing with all my immigrant brothers and sisters and the descendants of other immigrants.

We're all the same.

Heidi was totally right. I blame this on Charlie as well. I'm just sad it went here, again.

To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief thread, please!
 
I'd rather put the politicians in blindfolds.
Yeah let's kill em. Let's send them to their deaths for sending people to their deaths. Give them a taste. When they die then they will know how shit they've been then they won't do it again . They could come back to life to send me to my death for sending them to their death for sending the people to their death who volunteered to a job that they might or might not die doing but could possibly kill someone doing but chose to do anyway .

I think the loser here alround is empathy and common sense.
 
When we are done killing the useless immigrants we should kill the professional ones who dont pay taxes and own companies that lobby politicians that start wars for corporate greed. When they're dead we should kill the elderly who don't pay their way or employ them to kill the disabled and mentally ill because they are the worst of the lazy spongers , you don't need a degree to fill a bag or stack a box. We should kill god too because what kind of god would create directly or indirectly a world of paedo catholic politician brain dead soldier corpse fucker migrant zomby terrorists?
 
Call me (a) sensitive guy or something, but it hurts me what is going on (deploying millitary 'Berkut' forces against people?!) in the Ukraine. No word from the US yet ?

Don't worry. Anglo-American bankers are having their say.

The Ukraine Show is a small part of a larger strategy. The basic play is that they want to sell Qatar's North Dome natural gas to freezing Northern Europe. Currently Russian banksters are serving that market with Russian gas at the exorbitant price of $11 per million BTU.

They need a gas pipeline through Syria to Turkey. Russia is preventing it. That's why the CIA is funding the "protesters" in the Ukraine and funding Al Qaeda in Syria, and why western media is lobbying for the U.S. military to put "boots on the ground".
 
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How the hell did this get to killing immigrants and Burnt State's feigned comatose shame?

Possibly a sincere lack of objectivity. That's how. When you stop calling them as you see them, and instead paint the picture with the anti-natural, broad and far deranging brush of idealism, that rose bush up ahead next to the watering hole, tends to devour your dumb ass.

Objectivity. Learn it and be it minus the confusion of a many facetted cultural aptitude and you have a formula for what is the most intelligent status of mankind that a human's consciousness can occupy.

Why do people want to change the world around them instead of developing the skill required to accurately identify and thereby best navigate within it?

It's the antithesis of wisdom. Feck me. Have a nice weekend.
 
Yeah let's kill em. Let's send them to their deaths for sending people to their deaths. Give them a taste. When they die then they will know how shit they've been then they won't do it again . They could come back to life to send me to my death for sending them to their death for sending the people to their death who volunteered to a job that they might or might not die doing but could possibly kill someone doing but chose to do anyway .

I think the loser here alround is empathy and common sense.

Please excuse my hyperbole, I wouldn't actually kill anyone. But if we could make the scumbag politicians disappear in some peaceful, painless manner, I think we would all benefit.
 
Humans and chimps share much of the same basic behaviors, don't they? I think some good insight into human society can be found by looking at chimps and other apes.

I wasn't talking superficially. I mean we are literally not different from our primate relatives. Almost everything done by humanity can be linked to the basic instinct to attract a mate and protect those with whom we share the most chromosomes. Of course our big brains and technology amplify everything, and we kid ourselves about our motivations, but if you really look at it, every bit of human behavior can be explained this way.
 
Call me (a) sensitive guy or something, but it hurts me what is going on (deploying millitary 'Berkut' forces against people?!) in the Ukraine. No word from the US yet ?
You're a sensitive guy.
Just kidding.
Whenever there is some "crime against humanity" occurring anywhere in the world, people start looking for the USA to "do something". I get it: "with great power comes great responsibility". But it really isn't working out for us. Every time we try to help, we lose a bunch of young people, go further in debt, and are called A-holes by the very same people we were trying to help. The Europeans and Canadians seem to think they have all the answers, let's see how they do.
 
well if you didnt ONLY help those with all the natural rescources, and also helped those without, then the rest of the world, you know the other 95% of people on the planet, wouldnt consider you azzholes.

plus if it wasnt for YOUR Christians In Action, spending billions destabilising asset rich countries/regions, people wouldnt need your help, or your grunts, or your corporations, or your loans to rebuild their countries that you destroy..

god save us from american largesse.
 
Is it too early to play the "nazi world war 2" card yet?


no you can tell us all about how your bankers and industrialist got rich supplying all sides, before getting even richer by supplying your own force's to intervene, once it looked like they went to far, and became under threat themselve's.

still its the almighty dollar, so what's a quarter of a million young working class american cannon fodder really worth against the dollar, you didnt save anyone but yourselves, and like all involved you paid a high price, whilst prescot bush dinned out on the best of gear, along with his banking buddies.
 
i have just reread that, i do come over bolchy, when in reality i just type it as it ticka tapes thru my head, i have nothing against ordinary yanks, except ofcourse your taste in music, and unfunny comedians.

oh and ps
nice swerve.
 


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