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Robert Hastings said:
I have been trying to find the complete text to Moore's confession speech at the 1989 MUFON convention in Las Vegas. Can anyone assist me in this regard?
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I remember that when it happened and I THOUGHT it was reported in the Mufon Journal. I remember seeing a b&w picture of Moore on the podium. Let's try there, anyway,

YUP. YEEEEE-Haaa!!!! HERE we go:

http://www.theblackvault.com/encyclopedia/documents/MUFON/Journals/1989/November_1989.pdf
http://www.theblackvault.com/encyclopedia/documents/MUFON/Journals/1989/December_1989.pdf

There is also an interesting denial earlier thay year in January here:

http://www.theblackvault.com/encyclopedia/documents/MUFON/Journals/1989/January_1989.pdf
 
Thanks, Schuyler! I just printed both of the articles relating to Bill Moore's confession speech at the 1989 MUFON convention. He didn't come completely clean, as I will explain in my upcoming article on MJ-12.

I am also seeking a DVD or video of the 1988 TV show, UFO Cover-up? Live! It was a ridiculous disinformation-based effort--the Reefer Madness of ufology--with Richard "Falcon" Doty and Robert "Condor" Collins spreading BS all over the place.

Does anyone have a copy of this?

--Robert
 
Thanks again, Schuyler. I was hoping to get a copy from someone, rather than buy one, given that I am opposed to supporting-by-purchasing disinfo-based products. However, to expedite the completion of my upcoming article on the ongoing Collins/Doty BS, I just ordered one.

--Robert
 
Well, Robert. Look at it this way. By purchasing your very own copy you prevented someone else from being in the position of supporting disinfo, then giving you a copy free. Now no one else needs to feel guilty. :D Think of it as supporting the cause of rectifying all this. I think we all look forward to your next paper on the topic.
 
For Release: Friday, March 27, 2009
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On this week's episode, airing Sunday evening, March 29, 2009, The Paracast, widely recognized as the gold standard of paranormal radio, features exclusive reports on UFO sightings direct from veteran military witnesses.

Longtime UFO-Nukes Connection researcher Robert Hastings has worked with The Paracast to bring two new military witnesses forward to describe for the very first time, publicly, their experiences with UFOs sighted over sensitive nuclear missile launch sites.

Bruce Fenstermacher was a Minuteman III combat crew commander at FE Warren Air Force Base in 1976 when his experience occurred, while Patrick McDonough was a Chief of Party for the Field Survey Team of the 1381st Geodetic Survey Squadron, and was at Malmstrom AFB when his encounter a sighting of a UFO at very close range, along with two other witnesses occurred in 1966.

More details surrounding both witnesses will be available at the Paracast forums on Sunday, March 29, 2009, when the episode airs. Also joining the show will be former USAF Captain Robert Salas, who will be discussing his well-known encounter at Malmstrom AFB in 1967, where a UFO apparently disabled the targeting computers on multiple Minuteman ICBMs while he was a Deputy Missile Combat Crew Commander at the facility.

Robert Hastings rounds out the panel as a special guest co-host for the episode.

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--Robert Hastings
ufohastings.com
 
Hello Robert and thank you form your enlightening articles on the shysters associated with the MJ12 myth. I found the following challenge to you by another group whom I am sure you have heard of.

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DISINFORMATION SPECIALISTS, LIKE THE AVIARY, AND THOSE WHO HAVE COME FROM THE REAL MAJESTIC!

WE STAND BEHIND OUR TESTIMONY WITH AFFIDAVITS SWORN UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY! WE WILL SUPPORT THOSE DOCUMENTS IN OPEN COURT AGAINST ANY CHALLENGE, AND PLACE OUR LIBERTY ON THE LINE TO DO SO! (BUT IT'S EASIER FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH OR DON'T REALLY WANT IT EXPOSED TO AVOID IT BY ANY EXCUSE THEY CAN FIND. )

OTHERWISE: STEP UP.


THE AVIARY WILL RUN AWAY. (OR? DISCLOSURE? )

WE WON'T RUN AWAY.

YOU CAN REACH THE EAGLES FOR LEGAL TESTIMONY AT [email protected] !

AGAIN....
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AS A MATTER OF OLD TIMES SAKE......
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ROBERT? RICHARD? NEED HELP?
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(EAGLES WILL PLAY HARD BALL. WE DON'T HAVE TO LIKE YOU TO TELL THE TRUTH.)

WELL? ARE THEY WORTH THEIR SALT OR NOT?

EAGLES DISOBEY![/FONT]
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The source for this quote is Eagles Disobey - RUMBLES OF THINGS TO COME!

These people have posted affidavits no less and continue to taunt anyone willing to take them on. Their history and documentation is questionable to say the least and they rely on people writing them off to continually justify their 'validity'. They keep all history posted to or about them over the years and analyze that history to simply identify writing styles which provides them enough of a hit rate in identification of anonymous detractors. They then use this to give themselves an aura of being black ops types which inevitably dupes enough innocent observers to perpetuate their claims.

Anyway as it pertains to more MJ claims and a challenge I thought it may be of interest to you.
 
Thanks, Schuyler. Yup, Burisch is definitely in need of something. Upon reading some of the things he has posted at his website, I'm not sure that upping the medication will be enough. Perhaps a lie detector test. Thanks for the link to Knapp's expose. That says it all.

--Robert
 
Agree with all of you, but unfortunately the nutjob sentiment just plays into their hands while they yet again successfully elude accountability for their fanciful claims and dupe more of the public. In terms of nutshelling the story it is years long and basically summed up in their affidavits at the link.
They have had a relationship with Doty Green Collins and co in the past, and are most assuredly Puthoff worshipers. They are just a little more overt and absurd than our feathered friends.
 
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My recent article exposing the bogus MJ-12 documents and related Serpo hoax, titled "Operation Bird Droppings," is now posted at UFO Chronicles:<O:p></O:p>
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Updates 1 and 2 follow the article. As noted in an earlier posting here, a group of disinformation agents--including Richard "Falcon" Doty and Robert "Condor" Collins--originally foisted the MJ-12 hoax on unsuspecting ufologists, and the rest of the world, in the 1980s, for reasons explained in the article. I was one of a handful of people who exposed the operation and discredited the hoaxers. <O:p></O:p>
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Unfortunately, the same bunch of birds, and copy-cat hoaxers, have continued to circulate their MJ-12-related lies on the Internet, up to the present day. My latest article on the subject begins: <O:p></O:p>
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“Disinformation Specialists Richard ‘Falcon’ Doty and Robert ‘Condor’ Collins are still leaving little presents all over the place for the uninformed and unsuspecting. Watch where you step!”<O:p></O:p>
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MJ-12 is disinformation, pure and simple, and it has tainted even the best ufological research. Let me try to illustrate the problem. A recent article, which I excerpt below, first cited my own well-documented research on UFO activity at nuclear weapons sites and then, a short time later, mentioned a totally ridiculous and unsubstantiated story about President Eisenhower negotiating nuclear disarmament with aliens, face-to-face, at Edwards AFB, in 1954! <O:p></O:p>
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That bogus claim comes from a supposedly legitimate MJ-12 source, according to the disinformation agents. Actually, there is no credible evidence whatsoever to support the Eisenhower story—earlier versions of it lacked the nukes angle—but one would never know that by reading the article below. So, at least to the uninformed reader, my well-documented work (former astronaut Dr. Edgar Mitchell recently called it "powerful") is now linked with a totally fanciful tale about Eisenhower, aliens and nukes.<O:p></O:p>
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Similarly, those who have read the testimony of the very credible sources (USAF Brigadier General Arthur Exon, to name one) who speak to the reality of a recovered ET spacecraft at Roswell, also have to contend with the many Roswell-related fabrications found in the bogus MJ-12 material. In short, credible data is interwoven with fabrications, thanks to the likes of Doty, Collins and their ilk.<O:p< p> <O:p></O:p>
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Please educate yourself. Don't unwittingly support the disinformation agents by repeating the false claims you may have read online. Learn the facts about MJ-12.<O:p></O:p>
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Obama’s Zero Nuclear Weapons Speech & Extraterrestrial UFOs<O:p></O:p>

...If a select group of former military whistleblowers are to be believed, there are also others that will be happy to see the eradication of nuclear weapons - extraterrestrial occupants of UFOs...

On March 16, 1967, Captain Robert Salas (ret. USAF) was stationed at Malmstrom Air Force Base when seven or eight nuclear minuteman missiles that were part of the Strategic Air Command (SAC) were deactivated by UFOs. Salas described the incident as follows:<O:p></O:p>
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I was ... on duty at Oscar Flight as part of the 490th strategic missile squad and there are five launch control facilities assigned to that particular squadron.... I received a call from my topside security guard... and he said that he and some of the guards had been observing some strange lights flying around the site around the launch control facility…. I said, You mean UFO? He said, well, he didn't know what they were but they were lights and were flying around. They were not airplanes. They were not helicopters. They weren't making any noise... [A little later] our missiles started shutting down one by one. By shutting down, I mean they went into a "no-go" condition meaning they could not be launched…. These weapons were Minuteman One missiles and were of course nuclear-tipped warhead missiles... this incident was of extreme concern to SAC headquarters because they couldn't explain it. <O:p></O:p>
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Salas also claims that a similar occurrence involving ten minuteman missiles at another nearby SAC facility, Echo Flight, led to a high level inquiry by the USAF. Salas described his surprise when the investigation was terminated and he was instructed to remain silent. Salas’ testimony has been corroborated by other military whistleblowers such as Lt Colonel Dwynne Arneson who was also stationed at Malmstrom Air Force base in 1967, and read a top-secret communication confirming that UFOs were hovering near missile silos. Additional military whistleblowers confirming Salas' version of events have also come forward. Their testimonies are available in an 2006 online article by Robert Hastings where he reviews the testimony of twenty military witnesses of UFOs at ICBM sites and nuclear weapons storage facilities.<O:p></O:p>
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Salas has written about his experience and the aborted official enquiry in his book Faded Giant. He concluded that UFOs are vitally interested in nuclear weapons and have actively interfered with these in an apparent effort to deter the US and other countries from ever using them...Robert Hastings, author of UFOs and Nukes has interviewed over [100] USAF personnel [who] establish a clear relationship between UFOs and nuclear weapons. He confirms that in some cases this involves interference with nuclear weapons.<O:p></O:p>
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The above whistleblower testimonies suggest that <?XML:NAMESPACE PREFIX = ST1 /><ST1:place w:st="on"><?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com
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</st1:country-region>U.S.</ST1:place> national security organizations have long been aware of extraterrestrial opposition to the development and use of nuclear weapons. Indeed, there is growing evidence that President Eisenhower secretly conducted nuclear diplomacy with extraterrestrial visitors on February 20, 1954 that failed to put a stop to the impending Bravo hydrogen bomb test on March 1, 1954... <O:p></O:p>
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Good stuff Robert, thanks for posting.

A question though: As we know disinformation is actually lies with some fact built in. Looking at the MJ12 disinfo operation, what do you think is actually true in that? Or is that too hard to isolate?
 
Hi Gareth,

No offense, but your question is amply answered in my article and the links within it. According to General Exon, an ET craft was recovered at Roswell. That aside, virtually all of the other claims made in the MJ-12 material are bogus.

Yes, there is a lot of reading involved in my responses. Some answers just don't come easily. If you choose to read only a bit of what I have written, use the link to Brad Sparks' 2007 MUFON paper, found in my OBD article.

I am currently sparring, via email, with some of the perps, so I must return to the battle.

Robert
 
Robert,

I respect your work, and agree with your overall conclusion about the fraudulent nature of the MJ-12 documents, but I don't agree with you on the conclusion that the documents are official disinformation. I agree that this is a possibility, for any number of purposes, but I think it's just as likely that it was done for commercial purposes, i.e. as a scheme to make money, or as a hoax. Without a statement from the perpetrators as to the exact purpose (and even that would require independent confirmation), it remains unclear why the documents were created, even as it should be clear to everyone (Stan!) that they are fake.

Paul
 
Thanks Robert. I didnt have the time to read it when I posted that question.

Ill be sure to read the entire thing.
 
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