PararealitySaint
An Open Minded Skeptic
Witnesses reported unusual craft making the marks etc and in some cases, it was determined that the object weighed many tons. Ergo, a hoax appears impossible to account for an unusual technological flying thing. Strange metal is also known IIRC Fowler wrote about this in Socorro saucer in a pentagon pantry.
But there you go...Witnesses. Again, this doesn't show the craft flying down from space, appearing in this dimension, or being made on site. All this does is show that something could have been there but isn't now. Once again it proves nothing in terms of extraterrestrial life.
And yet there is no metal to be found as evidence to this day.
An object which enters our atmosphere from above, as seen on radar, and then exits above, is excellent evidence for ET inasmuch as nothing natural acts that way so it must be technological yet not from earth--it came from elsewhere.
Entering the atmosphere from above could just as easily be inter-dimensional as it could be E.T. There are many other eye witness reports of saucers appearing and disappearing as they float off, almost as if they need the beginnings of this propulsion in order to commit to the change.
As far as those we have spotted entering our atmosphere from above, there isn't one case by which we have the object recognized as anything but a "U.F.O." and not E.T., nor anything to do with any classification but U.F.O. This in no way proves the existence of E.T. and actually does a lot to dissuade those who read about the cases, because many of them wonder why they seem so secretive....so unlike the benevolent creatures one would come to expect in a supposed "higher intelligence."
No, some have been photographed or have left footprints or caused injuries.
Every supposed "photograph" of an E.T. has been proven to be fake or created by some special effects production agency. Besides, if they were so intelligent, why would they allow themselves to be photographed in the first place? They have been so covert as to every other aspect of their supposed involvement with us, so why the change of heart?
Footprints? Caused Injuries? Please show what you mean here. Injuries as far as metal insertions?
UFO landing sites aren't old legends but modern reports; some like socorro, have been thoroughly investigated. I don't suppose there's much documentary evidence for visits by satan...other than his alleged handiwork--legends and old stories aren't in the same league as reports with firsthand witnesses besides physical evidence.
No, in the case of Satanic manifestations, there are case studies which show not only some form of entity who goes by the name, but other known cases where possession has occurred, and this has been going on to the present day. The old stories I quoted were just some of the examples where physical evidence was supposedly left.
Here are some current cases which have within them about as much physical evidence if not more than your E.T. cases:
A Woman documented as possessed and witnessed to do all sorts of strange things:
Real-life case of demon possession documented
Here are four more famous ones:
4 Strange Cases of Demonic Possession - Road Tickle
And I could show you case by case and evidence by evidence all day....But this in no way proves the existence any more than some foot pads on the ground or unknown objects in the skies proves the existence of E.T.
There's a difference: there is some physical evidence for aliens as well as UFOs. Another point is that many people have eagerly wanted to see jesus, whereas UFO/alien witnesses are often skeptics or wholly indifferent to the subject beforehand, which says something about the relative credibility of the two kinds of reports.
Nope. Not much difference when it comes to people waiting to see the truth. In the case of purported visions of Jesus, there are many case reports of mass witnessing....Show just one Mass case of people viewing "E.T." not U.F.O.'s. The "some" physical evidence you speak about pertaining to E.T. isn't nearly as advanced or even as accepted as you would like them to be, and unfortunately the evidence itself isn't really evidence at all of E.T., but of U.F.O's....a big difference.
Yet again, I said "evidence" not conclusive proof. Of course the phenomenon can be interpreted more than one way but that doesn't mean all interpretations are equally plausible. The ETH is most in line with modern science and rationality--far more so than "demons" or time travelers.
I disagree. Once again the "evidence" you provide shows 0.00% that E.T. exists....It might work a little toward the existence of U.F.O's, but even then it shows nothing in the way of confirmation.
Modern science and rationality cannot be a viable support base in the case where physical proof is so bleak or not even there. In the case of Demonic possession and Demons in general, many cases have shown the proof in actual video, eyewitness viewing, what the possessed says and acts as, their floating in air without the use of any assistance, whole objects slammed around and rooms shaking, beds shaking, etc. With E.T. you have nothing. No little bodies, no metal, no crafts....
Just some radar and a few eyewitnesses.
I would say there is much more for the proof as to the existence of Demons then there is for E.T. in this case, sorry.
More than for "demons" themselves. One shouldn't attribute effects to something which isn't itself visible or has no other corroboration.
I wish you would take that self advisement when judging the difference between a U.F.O. sighting and E.T. then, because you have 0.00% proof of E.T. Demons have been written up by every religion in almost every place on earth. They have haunted man for thousands of years on end, and continue to prove their existence in almost every seriously investigated case.
Erhman and no doubt others, cast considerable doubt on the validity and reliability of all of that.
I take it you mean Bart Erhman? Man have you been in bad company. Here's just one example of how Erhman gets it wrong:
Dr. Craig Evans cites Erhman’s quote in Fabricating Jesus. He states that Erhman’s line of reasoning is “so typical of brittle fundamentalism.” He continues by stating “rigid ideas about the verbal inspiration and inerrancy of Scripture underlie Erhman’s problem.” Evans summarizes that “the truth of the Christian message hinges not on the inerrancy of Scripture…but on the resurrection of Jesus.” Throughout Fabricating Jesus, Evans points out that many people, like Erhman, have lost their faith because they have an inflexible understanding of what inerrancy and verbal inspiration mean.
Perhaps some good advice for you
I assumed you'd hate a book which predicts the phenomenon will be the ultimate nemesis of traditional beliefs such as yours.
My traditional beliefs have never been in question, and dare I say it, those who think E.T. would make an "ultimate nemesis" to thus is mistaken and misguided. As I stated many times, the existence of other life, albeit intelligent or not, doesn't contradict anything my Lord and Savior has said about the world, the heavens or the universe. I am completely aware that the universe is vast, larger than you or I can even conceive. Intelligent life is probably out there (Demons are intelligent and very capable)....the difference of opinion we have is that E.T. ever cared more than perhaps a smidgen about us, that is if they ever came to us, or exist in the first place.
Reminds me of Sagan. For all the fascination for the idea of alien life he professed I don't think he really had the stomach for it. He was wiling to consider the half-fish Oannes legend evidence for an alien visit in the past, and thought contact via radio might happen in the future. But he totally rejected ALL UFO reports i.e. any suggestion they're here now.
Sagan understood the sheer odds that an intelligent life with the capacity to travel eons over great distances, would look at us as nothing more than an ant farm....one to look at, smile about, and most definitely move on. They wouldn't care about abducting us. The wouldn't care about helping our world, or nuclear usage, or anything humans could possibly have or have the capacity to do. As our probes move farther and farther away from earth and we continue to find nothing, it proves Sagan right.....Not completely denying the existence, but knowing we haven't been visited or aren't being watched by any E.T.