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Muadib said:
You obviously missed the picture of an iron worker doing exactly that. It's there go back and look. Show us a working device which uses thermite and cuts a sizable hollow column. It must also be small enough to do the job yet hide from the average World Trade Center worker.
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i have seen everything you have posted so far... and does his cut look like the perfect angled cut?
 
Although I don't believe the official story is the real story nor do I believe any particular conspiracy theory. One thing about 911 Conspiracies that has bothered me more or less since I began looking into them is, "Where are the conspirators?" Hundreds of people would have to have been involved who knew what they were involved in, if not initially then certainly after the attack was carried out. Where are they? All offed, paid off, scared silent, or buried?
 
Muadib said:
It's so funny to me how these "truthers" already have their minds made up, no amount of evidence or blatantly obvious logic can change their opinion, and then they have the balls to call that scientific. Science isn't about coming up with a pre-determined, unfalsifiable position and then using whatever facts you can dig up to support that position. That's not science, it's religion. At least be honest about it.

If there was a new investigation, and they didn't support your position, would you accept that you're wrong or just keep calling for investigation after investigation until someone finally told you what you want to hear?
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like the global warming scam i was fooled until i used my head. it is funny how "liars" like you have their minds made up because the government and media told them how to think. btw- if i am a "truther" then you being the opposite are a "liar".
 
trainedobserver said:
Although I don't believe the official story is the real story nor do I believe any particular conspiracy theory. One thing about 911 Conspiracies that has bothered me more or less since I began looking into them is, "Where are the conspirators?" Hundreds of people would have to have been involved who knew what they were involved in, if not initially then certainly after the attack was carried out. Where are they? All offed, paid off, scared silent, or buried?
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compartmentalization is the key. and the conspirators have probably been subject to any or all of your scenarios... similar to a few key witnesses to explosions happening before the towers fell. it is not hard to find recordings AND video of explosions prior to the demolitions.
 
pixelsmith said:
like the global warming scam i was fooled until i used my head. it is funny how "liars" like you have their minds made up because the government and media told them how to think. btw- if i am a "truther" then you being the opposite are a "liar".
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Rofl, I think we proved how scientific your views on Global Warming were in the other thread. Just like this it's all a conspiracy maaaaaan. I've been into researching 9/11 since it happened, I was on your side until I took a hard look at what evidence the truthers really have. Which is jack shit. Like I said, there are parts of the official story I completely don't believe, but I also don't believe that there was a controlled demolition. It's far more likely that they knew about it and simply let it happen, and then took advantage of the aftermath to rape our liberties.
 
really? something is suspicious at the pentagon? really? the most secure building in the world with multiple radar systems and cameras, possibly missile defense systems and a military airport nearby and a slow moving passenger plane with a scary brown skinned person wielding a box cutter managed to crash into the building... riiiight... hey i have some swamp land i would love to sell you... it is really nice and has unicorns and pots of gold on it.
 
a couple of our fighter jets scrambled to a dead golfer in a lear jet within 20 minutes. Muadib do you know how long it took to get them in the air to protect the most secure building in the world? You could have drove a moped from the military base to the pentagon faster than our fighter jets got there.
 
pixelsmith said:
a couple of our fighter jets scrambled to a dead golfer in a lear jet within 20 minutes. Muadib do you know how long it took to get them in the air to protect the most secure building in the world? You could have drove a moped from the military base to the pentagon faster than our fighter jets got there.
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Yeah but there's an important difference, Pane Sterwarts plane had a transponder, the hijackers turned off the transponders on the hijacked jets. So locating them via their signal like they did with Stewart's plane would have been impossible. Combine that with all the war games operations they had running, I think it was like 4 or 5 different ops, can't remember off the top of my head and don't have time to look it up, and all the planes in the air at the time plus the phantoms from the wargames and locating them quickly would have been very difficult. The fact that they had that many different military wargame ops running on that day is to me just further proof that they had foreknowledge. Not to mention that I read somewhere that shoot down orders had been changed, giving the authority to the president or vice president instead of military commanders, so even if pilots had gotten there quickly they couldn't have shot them down without authorization from Bush or Cheney. I may be wrong about that, but I remember reading it somewhere.
 
Ok I checked and there WAS a power down affecting 50 floors in tower 2 that lasted 2 days. The power down affected a witness who worked on floor 45 of wtc 2 but 2 days was little time to place contoled demolitions and say that floor 45 was the lowest floor affected. That means that up to floor 95 was affected.
 
Muadib said:
Yeah but there's an important difference, Pane Sterwarts plane had a transponder, the hijackers turned off the transponders on the hijacked jets. So locating them via their signal like they did with Stewart's plane would have been impossible. Combine that with all the war games operations they had running, I think it was like 4 or 5 different ops, can't remember off the top of my head and don't have time to look it up, and all the planes in the air at the time plus the phantoms from the wargames and locating them quickly would have been very difficult. The fact that they had that many different military wargame ops running on that day is to me just further proof that they had foreknowledge. Not to mention that I read somewhere that shoot down orders had been changed, giving the authority to the president or vice president instead of military commanders, so even if pilots had gotten there quickly they couldn't have shot them down without authorization from Bush or Cheney. I may be wrong about that, but I remember reading it somewhere.
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yay... good work. you found what i hoped you would find. now look up Norman Mineta's testimony and let me know what you think of that.
 
vesvehighfolk said:
Ok I checked and there WAS a power down affecting 50 floors in tower 2 that lasted 2 days. The power down affected a witness who worked on floor 45 of wtc 2 but 2 days was little time to place contoled demolitions and say that floor 45 was the lowest floor affected. That means that up to floor 95 was affected.
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keep checking. check with maintenance personnel William Rodriguez and Kenny Johannemann and see what they might have to say about things, they were right in the building.
 
they dont mention the sub floor explosions well before the collapse?... this video is inaccurate.
 
It is difficult to determine the true source of the info in that YouTube video, but a lot of it is dead wrong. There were numerous reported explosions both at the WTC 7 site and at the WTC1&2 site. What did Goebbels say?? Something like "If you make the lie big enough, They will believe it", as I recall.
 
maybe you guys should check a little closer. there are recorded video, sound bytes, first hand accounts, etc of explosions before the buildings collapsed.
 
I know why they fell, it is called insurance fraud, destruction of court records, theft and a pretext to war.
 
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