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Rick Deckard

Paranormal Maven
Clarity.

Is it time to leave the terms 'ET', 'ETH' and 'ETI' behind?

Are those terms too 'loaded'? Are they even relevant in the context of UFOs, which are by definition 'unidentified'.

Should we adopt more generic, less provocative terms?

Any suggestions?
 
Stop associating this phenomenon with the extraterrestrial hypothesis. As soon as you do this, you will develop a better understanding of the subject. It has nothing to do with other planetary bodies. It is a psycho-sociological phenomenon.
 
Anyone who wants to believe in ET should listen to the clowns on Boast to Toast. This subject is too important.
 
Anonymous22 said:
Stop associating this phenomenon with the extraterrestrial hypothesis. As soon as you do this, you will develop a better understanding of the subject. It has nothing to do with other planetary bodies. It is a psycho-sociological phenomenon.

Enormous, dark, silent craft flying over populated areas, witnessed by thousands is a 'psycho-sociological phenomenon'. That is a leap.
 
"Craft?" I see something enormous but nothing inside. Certain Ancient cultures saw the same things in the sky. But that's because they knew how to make them appear. All it takes is someone out there trying to turn the right key and this occurs. With the advent of the net, certain information has reached a lot of hands. I'd love to know who pulled off Phoenix. I bet their pants are still brown.
 
Anonymous22 said:
"Craft?" I see something enormous but nothing inside. Certain Ancient cultures saw the same things in the sky. But that's because they knew how to make them appear. All it takes is someone out there trying to turn the right key and this occurs. With the advent of the net, certain information has reached a lot of hands. I'd love to know who pulled off Phoenix. I bet their pants are still brown.

Okay, so you're espousing the "wishful thinking" explanation - we create our own physical realities. I suggested something like that about 12 months ago on these very forums - if we expect rain this weekend, then we'll get it. The UFO cover-up is for our own good...

...it's still an interesting theory, but I see no need to drop all other theories in favour of this one.
 
Anonymous22 said:
"Craft?" I see something enormous but nothing inside. Certain Ancient cultures saw the same things in the sky. But that's because they knew how to make them appear. All it takes is someone out there trying to turn the right key and this occurs. With the advent of the net, certain information has reached a lot of hands. I'd love to know who pulled off Phoenix. I bet their pants are still brown.

Well that explains it all now doesn't it?
Someone with advanced holographic projection technology or the ability to mind warp the reality of thousands of witnesses was behind it and all ETH, ETI, crypto-terrestrial and inter-dimensional entities and sightings! Well suck me off with a bilge pump! I knew it!!
Why didn't someone think of that before? LOL :)
 
Can't remember if it was Ingo Swann or Jacques Vallee, but one of them, in one of his books, suggested calling them para-terrestrials or multi-terrestrials, depending on one's point of view. I haven't personally settled on any of them, including the ET or the crypto.
 
Anonymous22,

Welcome to the forums.

But be warned, if you're going to make sweeping, definitive statements about the UFO phenomenon, with nothing to back those statements up, you will most likely get you ass handed to you.

dB
 
David Biedny said:
But be warned, if you're going to make sweeping, definitive statements about the UFO phenomenon, with nothing to back those statements up, you will most likely get you ass handed to you.

All I know is that I wasn't going to be the one to say that.:D
 
Dave, you know as well as I do that this has nothing to do with ET. I was merely trying to encourage Mr. Deckard to look into the writings of Greenfield and in particular to examine what happened to people who worked on his publications. I thought he might find such a clue to the truth interesting.
 
Anonymous22 said:
I was merely trying to encourage Mr. Deckard to look into the writings of Greenfield and in particular to examine what happened to people who worked on his publications. I thought he might find such a clue to the truth interesting.

Well, you're overlooking the possibility that I'm lazy, so if you want to encourage me you could just tell me what happened to the people working on his publications...
 
Whitley Strieber calls them "the visitors", which seems quite neutral because it doesn't infer any point of origin. Of course, it does infer they aren't from our normal 3 dimensional Earth time/space. Words do many a big difference in emotional reactions, as Tony Robbins has often said. If we call them "Smurfs" or "Buggy Boos" that is quite different than calling them "Transdimensional Entities".
 
Rick Deckard said:
Anonymous22 said:
I was merely trying to encourage Mr. Deckard to look into the writings of Greenfield and in particular to examine what happened to people who worked on his publications. I thought he might find such a clue to the truth interesting.

Well, you're overlooking the possibility that I'm lazy, so if you want to encourage me you could just tell me what happened to the people working on his publications...

I assume they all ended up dead, wearing diapers and straitjackets, or working for the FOX News network. I doubt it was anything pretty.
 
OK I'm immediately skeptical when someone tells me what it is and what it isn't. Especially if there is nothing else to accompany the apparent reasons. What do you mean "who pulled off" Phoenix??

And can cameras and radar reflect a sociological problem? In other words, as the thread states, WTF are we talking about?? How about WTF are you anonymous22 talking about?? How about some enlightenment as opposed to blunt, bold, definitive statements with nothing else.
 
I suggest reading some Vallee to start... There is no evidence that this phenomena has anything to do with ET - that's just a myth of ages past perpetrated by guys in the field who are 50+
 
Even Kenneth Arnold's testimony is highly dubious. This is a psycho-sociological issue.
 
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