Can Anyone Explain The Purpose For These "Camps"?

[mike]

its funny, go back a few hundred years and we would be killed for daring to say such things, denounced as heretics and tortured.

its not that long ago in our history that people using the bible as a model did such things.

the bible is not a model of virtue, far from it. it is not a suitable template on which to model our own behaviour.

the suggestion that locking up people who are passionate about this old book is somehow intrinsically wrong, is just not logical to me.

its time for mankind to put aside the superstitions of its grandfathers

its an outdated anachronistic old book, those able to read it with detached common sense recognise it for what it is.

having "Faith" in this old relic is not reason enough to put you in a camp, but it sure isnt a reason not to.
and that goes for any religious nut who thinks the examples as set out in any holy book should take precedence over common sense, and laws as legislated by the society in which they live

 

[mike]

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[MagentaCandle]

Hear what happened to Chinese believers of Christ, prior to communist takeover in China, who were told by their pastors, "...you have nothing to worry about...before the communists can take over and persecute you, we will be raptured!" Yes, this was commonly taught in China in the churches at that time, as Christ's followers became uneasy over the rise of communism to power. Yet...there was NO "Rapture" to take out the Chinese believers in God when communism came to power. They instead found themselves arrested, imprisoned, tortured for their faith and martyred. And their persecutions and martyrdoms continue to this day. And reports began to come out of China of the Believers cursing their pastors and becoming angry at God because of this!

"Pastor! How could this happen! You said we would be raptured before we would ever be arrested and persecuted! How could you have failed to prepare us! How could God fail us?"

And the reality was, God did not fail them. Christ's words plainly revealed what would come under end time persecution to His people. God fails no one! But sadly, often His pastors DO. And such Pastors then become false prophets to His people. And tragically, God's people often PREFER false prophets in the pulpits of their Churches, whenever the truth is too hard to bear and is something their flesh does not want!

 

[MagentaCandle]

Pastors often stated that they could never reveal such truth because they might then frighten and lose members (hence lose money through loss of tithes). Yes, 501-C-3 compromised Pastors have proven many times they love numbers and money MORE than the truth and more than the Souls of their congregations.

The members of these congregations falsely taught that "peace and plenty" was what the future held for America, and that they would be "Raptured" out of all persecution to come, even now cursing their Pastors and becoming angry at God as everything God's Word warned of begins to be fulfilled...this time on American soil.

(Friends, don't even bother to curse such Pastors: they are already under the laws of Karma for failing to prepare His people for this hour of testing! And the blood of those who fall away as a result of their false teachings will be upon the hands of such Pastors, who have prophesied falsely to them of "peace and prosperity" when prophecy revealed something quite different.)

 

[MagentaCandle]

Nationwide initiative trains volunteers to teach congregations to "obey the government" during seizure of guns, property, forced inoculations and forced relocation.

A Pastor has come forward to blow the whistle on a nationwide FEMA program which is training Pastors and other religious representatives to become secret police enforcers who teach their congregations to "obey the government" in preparation for a declaration of martial law, property and firearm seizures, and forced relocation.

In March of this year the Pastor was invited to attend a meeting of his local FEMA chapter which circulated around preparedness for a potential bio-terrorist attack, any natural disaster or a nationally declared emergency.

The FEMA directors told the Pastors that attended that it was their job to help implement FEMA and Homeland Security directives in anticipation of any of these eventualities. The first directive was for Pastors to preach to their congregations Romans 13, the often taken out of context bible passage that was used by Hitler to hoodwink Christians into supporting him, in order to teach them to "obey the government" when martial law is declared.

 

[MagentaCandle]

It was related to the Pastors that quarantines, martial law and forced relocation were a problem for state authorities when enforcing federal mandates due to the "cowboy mentality" of citizens standing up for their property and second amendment rights as well as farmers defending their crops and livestock from seizure. It was stressed that the Pastors needed to preach subservience to the authorities ahead of time in preparation for the round-ups and to make it clear to the congregation that "this is for their own good."

Other preachers and Pastors have stated that this program is a nationwide initiative and a literal Soviet model whereby the churches are being systematically infiltrated by government volunteers and used as conduits for martial law training and conditioning. The Pastor was told that over 1,300 counties were already on board.

It falls under the umbrella of the NVOAD program which is training volunteers in a "Peer to Peer" program in a neighborhood setting.

Pastors were told that the would be backed up by law enforcement in controlling uncooperative individuals and that they would even lead SWAT teams in attempting to quell resistance.

 

[MagentaCandle]

"We get the the picture that we're going to be standing at the end of some farmer's lane while he's standing there with his double barrel, saying we have to confiscate your cows, your chickens, your firearms," said the Pastor.

The Pastor elaborated on how the directives were being smoke screened by an Orwellian alteration of their names.

"They're not using the term 'quarantine' - this is the term they're going to be using - it's called 'social distancing' don't you like that one," said the Pastor.

He also highlighted how detention camps had been renamed to give them a friendly warm veneer.

"Three months ago it was quarantine and relocation centers and now it's 'community centers' and these are going to be activated at the local schools," he said.

 

[MagentaCandle]

The Pastor has outlined the plan to carry out mass vaccination and enforced drugging programs in times of crisis such as a bird flu outbreak.

"In the event of an outbreak or a bio-terrorist attack, there'd be a mass vaccination....they have a program nationwide 'Pills in People's Palm In 48 Hours'," said the Pastor who was told that Walmart had been designated as the central outlet of this procedure.

The Pastor said that many attendees believed in the necessity of the program and were completely unaware to the motivations behind its true purpose and were offered incentives to become volunteers such as preferential treatment and first access for themselves and their families to vaccines and food shipments in times of emergency.

Which roads to close off after martial law was declared had also already been mapped out.

 

[MagentaCandle]

In another twilight zone Nazi-like spectacle, Pastors were asked to make a pledge or an affirmation during the meeting to fulfil the roles ascribed to them by FEMA. They were given assurances that they would be covered by full compensation in the event of resisters injuring them during property seizures and round-ups.

The Pastor said that his county had already succumbed to a tattle-tale like mentality where neighbors were reporting neighbors to the authorities for things like having chickens in their back yard. The brown shirt precedent has been set whereby people immediately turn to the authorities in fealty whenever their paranoid suspicions, fueled by zealous government and media fearmongering, are heightened.

The Pastor also said that the completion of the first stage of the program was slated for very soon. At this point all the counties within the United States would be networked as part of the so-called disaster relief program.

 

[MagentaCandle]

Here is actual KSLA NEWS footage of Pastors being trained to help crack down and round up American Citizens during Martial Law:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRIDNQNsUss

 

[MagentaCandle]

This is not a joke folks. IT IS REAL:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QAv-LbARKyQ


And the truth should be known to ALL Christians living in America:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=wgfihRJe71k
(Part 1)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=JFLf6rUVTUw
(Part 2)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=sN2kwpQofTg
(Part 3)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ruymjp0vaiw
(Part 4)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Gy0tzFZbMjg
(Part 5)

FEMA's Pastors folks. Not YOURS.

 

[MagentaCandle]

Satanist hate crimes are rampant throughout our nation. Satanist infiltration into church organizations and ministries is widespread.

The Satanist/Illuminist subculture has successfully infiltrated America's schools, Universities, law enforcement, government, judicial and in fact penetrated every level of our society. They are networking furiously together to bring forth their New World Order/Luciferian based agenda. And they are destroying countless innocent lives in the process, and will destroy millions more in their bloody pursuit. Satanist recruitment into covens is at an all time high...recruiters even go out on Friday nights in college towns or cities and recruit kids on the streets, dressed fully in black robes!

And where is the Church??? God has commissioned His people unto whom he has entrusted power and authority to wage mighty Spiritual warfare against the works of the enemy. Even the Bible declares "Jesus Christ was manifested to DESTROY THE WORKS OF THE DEVIL." He did not commission the police...nor the local judge... nor the sheriff's department (they are all infiltrated by Satanists anyhow!) He has commissioned HIS PEOPLE to stand in the gap, to wage war against the enemy who is destroying countless lives across our nation continually.

Because God has not given us a spirit of FEAR, but of POWER, LOVE and a SOUND MIND, and has continually instructed us to FEAR NOT, we are to therefore march boldly forward with the power of God and CRUSH THE WORKS OF THE ENEMY.

People should be ashamed of the priests/pastors who have admitted that they are too afraid to deal with Satanism in their city...too afraid to stand up and do something about it.

It is time to make a difference...NOW!

Satan has already gotten away with murder unchallenged much too long...and wait 'til you see what they have in mind for YOU under coming martial law!!! Please...help make the difference.

 

[CapnG]

Yeah.. I got nothing. Anybody this far gone is beyond even psychiatric help so whatever. Enjoy your madness, Magenta! Look out for them satanists under the bed!

*unsubscribes from thread*

 

[fitzbew88]

And tragically, God's people often PREFER false prophets in the pulpits of their Churches, whenever the truth is too hard to bear and is something their flesh does not want!

I, for one, prefer False Prophets over True Prophets any day. A much better aftertaste and a longer shelf-life. Yum yum.

Nationwide initiative trains volunteers to teach congregations to "obey the government" during seizure of guns, property, forced inoculations and forced relocation.

At first I read that as actual "trains" that travel around the country on railroad tracks. Hee hee.

...invited to attend a meeting of his local FEMA chapter...

Huh? What country do you live in? We don't have "local FEMA chapter".

The first directive [from FEMA] was for Pastors to preach to their congregations Romans 13...

Sure.....

Pastors were told that the [sic] would be backed up by law enforcement in controlling uncooperative individuals and that they would even lead SWAT teams in attempting to quell resistance.

Wasn't this on an episiode of King of the Hill?

"In the event of an outbreak or a bio-terrorist attack, there'd be a mass vaccination....they have a program nationwide 'Pills in People's Palm In 48 Hours'," said the Pastor who was told that Walmart had been designated as the central outlet of this procedure.

Wal-mart? Gawd, I hope it's not on a Saturday!

The Pastor said that his county had already succumbed to a tattle-tale like mentality where neighbors were reporting neighbors to the authorities for things like having chickens in their back yard. The brown shirt precedent has been set whereby people immediately turn to the authorities in fealty whenever their paranoid suspicions, fueled by zealous government and media fearmongering, are heightened.

It's not paranoid if they really have a chicken!!!!!

Here is actual KSLA NEWS footage of Pastors being trained to help crack down and round up American Citizens during Martial Law

True, except there's no footage of Pastors being trained to help crack down and round up American Citizens during martial law.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAv-LbARK...re=related

Five minutes and twenty-two seconds. Crunchy crazy goodness.

And the truth should be known to ALL Christians living in America:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgfihRJe7...re=related (Part 1)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFLf6rUVT...re=related (Part 2)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN2kwpQof...re=related (Part 3)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ruymjp0va...re=related (Part 4)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy0tzFZbM...re=related (Part 5)

44 minutes of the best video on Youtube. Some of them have, well, hundreds of views. All carefully researched with easily verifiable facts.

FEMA's Pastors folks. Not YOURS.

If they are FEMA's, somebody owes me some offerings back!

Satanist hate crimes are rampant throughout our nation. Satanist infiltration into church organizations and ministries is widespread.

Yep, yep, yep. Rampant. Throughout. Our. Nation. Satanist. Infiltration. Widespread.

Satanist recruitment into covens is at an all time high...recruiters even go out on Friday nights in college towns or cities and recruit kids on the streets, dressed fully in black robes!

Uhhh, I think that was my Uncle Fred. And it was a bathrobe. He's not a Satanist, he's a Professor of Sabrage. (It's a long story.)

And where is the Church???

You're asking ME???????

People should be ashamed of the priests/pastors who have admitted that they are too afraid to deal with Satanism in their city...too afraid to stand up and do something about it.

Yes, instead those morons are posting sermons on paranormal forums, preaching to the gullible and refusing to answer rational questions. Wait...never mind.

Satan has already gotten away with murder unchallenged much too long...and wait 'til you see what they have in mind for YOU under coming martial law!!! Please...help make the difference.

Martial law?

Approves.

 

[mike]

The whole premise of your argument relys on the bible being true....

Its NOT. its a book, and thats all it is .

it IS NOT the Word of God.

it is a collection of the words of men.

if it were the word of god it would not be inaccurate.
the fact that its the words of men, explains the inaccuracys perfectly.

the australian aboriginal has been here for over 40 thousand years

Genesis 11:10 tells us that Shem was 100 years old, 2 years after the Flood had finished. When was Noah’s Flood? 1,981 years to AD 0 plus 967 years to the founding of Solomon’s Temple plus 480 years to the end of the Exodus plus 430 years to the promise to Abraham plus 75 years to Abraham’s birth plus 350 years to Shem’s 100th birthday plus 2 years to the Flood. The Biblical data places the Flood at 2304 BC +/- 11 years.

This date is, as expected, in conflict with secular archaeology which regards the Flood as either local or a myth and the Biblical chronologies as irrelevant or inaccurate.


the bible is wrong, its a sham ,the australian aborigine should have drowned in the flood like everyone else, but they didnt, WHY ? because those writing the book had no idea the aborigine existed, that makes sense if its a man writing the book, it makes no sense at all if its the "word" of an all seeing god

its not the word of god, and if it is then god is a liar a deceiver
the devil can quote scripture, thats because the bible is a trap.
ive already shown where it contains acts of such foul violence like god tearing up forty two children, they are the clues for the wise.
who do you think was more likely to send beasts to tear up children God or Satan ?.

the bible is the devils work, its contains lies from the prince of lies, and violence from the beast of beasts, if you hold the bible holy, then YOU ARE A SATANIST.

look at all the money spent building crystal palaces and other churches, i saw benny hin asking for donations so he could buy a lear jet.......................and if you donate more than 10 thousand dollars , you get your name printed inside the jet.

while children starve in third world countrys.......... oh the shame

Oh my Friend you are already in a "Camp", though you think you wander free.
you are already shackled to the train that carries you on your journey, and terminates at the last station on the line, oblivion.

every sunday......all those people..........fussing about whats going to happen to THEM after they die, more concerned with ensuring they attain the "comforts" of the afterlife ie heaven. than they are about their starving brothers and sisters in the here and now....

do you not see how "evil" that is ?

 

[Astroboy]

Here's a video that will definitively answer all your questions about the internment camps!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

 

[mike]

Bugger, Rickrolled again, thats 4 times already this morning

 

[ArizonaWill]

I suspect that the creator of this thread has been listening to folks like Zeph Daniels or Russ Dizdar. Russ actually believes that we will someday experience a BLACK AWAKENING, when all the multiple personalities (sleeper cells) that have been programmed by the Satanist majority (in hiding) will come awake via some code, perhaps by cell phone call.

They will each have a bloody job to fulfill that involves killing lots of people or targetting individuals. This was cause maximum chaos in society, which will then be the perfect entrance for the anti-Christ. The Anti-Christ will arrive to "save the day" like Mighty Mouse. To prove the point, another code will be sent out and all the sleeper cell agents will commit suicide (instant peace, I reckon).

Well, that's one man's theory, but it isn't my belief. Nonetheless, such wild belief systems are fun to surf on the internet. In all such stories, Christians MUST take a fall because Revelations said so, no matter how illogical that may be in 2008. Frankly, I was raised to believe that the author of Revelations was a bit touched in the head, if not looney, from being incarcerated and tortured. What he wrote was about HIS times, not ours, as he ranted about the evil Emperor of Rome and those damn Romans! I understand that apocalyptic literature like Revelations was really HOT 2000 years ago, and was quite popular. The Bible picked Revelations as representative of that genre since it makes a smashing finale to the book. Astonishing that anyone takes it literally in 2008.

I think the camps are for displaced prairie dogs. They are a protected species in some growing urban areas. When a housing tract displaces them, they are sucked up in a vacuum cleaner (customized for prairie dog cleanup jobs) and moved to a camp on useless land, sort of like the Indians were treated 150 years ago.

 

[MagentaCandle]

In the recent past since the double tragedy that destroyed so many lives in New York City and Washington, DC, we now see a foretaste of the persecution that is coming to this nation now surfacing in the form of new laws that already are threatening the civil liberties of all Americans. In fact, recently an FBI officer confronted researcher Al Martin (a man whose work in exposing the truth behind the government corruption and the New World Order, etc.) He was warned that within a year, he could be arrested for "seditious talk" for making such statements formerly protected under the First Amendment rights.

Could other believers in God also be arrested for "seditious talk" under the new laws to be enacted? Could Christ's followers witnessing in public or broadcasting on radio be labeled by THEIR definition to be "seditious talk?" Consider it a great possibility. But does this mean that we are to stop our belief systems? NEVER!

Remember: your liberties that come from believening Christ did NOT originate nor come from the US government! They come from Almighty God. It is God Himself that has given you this marvelous liberty through faith in Jesus Christ. The state did not give it to you, and the state cannot take it away. Now, we know it is a spiritual liberty, that we have been set free from the power of rebellion through faith in Jesus Christ. But what we experience in the spiritual must also be manifested into the physical realm as well, for it to be true liberty in the fullest sense.

 

[MagentaCandle]

"Stand fast therefore in the LIBERTY wherewith Christ has made us free, and be not entangled again in the yoke of bondage." Galatians 5:1

People in America, will you not realistically prepare your hearts for the coming hour of the cup of testing, persecution and martyrdom that all of Christ's follwers in America may end up drinking of for prophecy to be fulfilled? And will you not also prepare yours hearts to RISE UP in FAITH AND VICTORY to OVERCOME THE ENEMY in this hour?

Your hidden persecutors are many, and they extend into the White House and the highest levels of our government and our military. Many people believe that Justice Department investigators have already defined you follwers of God as "resisters of the New World Order" and secretly condemned you to be arrested and put to death, your organizations and homes to be seized by FEMA and foreign troops and confiscated, and decreed persecution for all those who would offer resistance.