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Can Anyone Explain The Purpose For These "Camps"?
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MagentaCandle
Skilled Investigator
The news media in America IS CIA/Illuminati/government controlled, and they make sure that their people are in place throughout our nation to ensure blackout of such information to the average American.
America's Satanists are very well organized and operate under a high level of covertness to protect their names, reputations, and legally. In reports from SATANISM IN AMERICA TODAY, There have been instances documented in many accounts from former high level Satanists of people being targeted BECAUSE they were believers in Christ. They were stalked, abducted, and sacrificed for their faith.
As one previous Satanist admitted, "Satan was demanding Christ's followers for sacrifice, and by golly, we obliged him. They were targeted, stalked and sacrificed like all the rest..." (From a former CIA assassin, Satanist leader in one state, now a Christ follower/lecturer exposing the occult.)
America's Satanists are very well organized and operate under a high level of covertness to protect their names, reputations, and legally. In reports from SATANISM IN AMERICA TODAY, There have been instances documented in many accounts from former high level Satanists of people being targeted BECAUSE they were believers in Christ. They were stalked, abducted, and sacrificed for their faith.
As one previous Satanist admitted, "Satan was demanding Christ's followers for sacrifice, and by golly, we obliged him. They were targeted, stalked and sacrificed like all the rest..." (From a former CIA assassin, Satanist leader in one state, now a Christ follower/lecturer exposing the occult.)
MagentaCandle
Skilled Investigator
One eye-witness account from the mountains of NC admitted that, as a Satanist, she participated in the abduction of a well known believer in Christ who was a witness/intercessor in that region that the local Satanists hated. She was abducted while walking home on a rural road at dusk. Their van pulled up next to her, men jumped out and seized her and she was thrown into the back of the van. Her mouth, hands and feet were then duct-taped and she was injected with a knock-out drug. When she revived, she found herself chained naked to a Satanic altar deep in the heart of the Great Smoky Mountains, in a massive cave known to all Satanists in that region.
She was then tempted to deny Jesus Christ as they offered to let her live IF she would work for them to infiltrate churches, spy on Christians, etc. According to this former Satanist' account, she refused. Her only reply was: "I BELIEVE IN CHRIST!" And they then proceeded to torture her most brutally, until she finally died. The former Satanist friend never forgot this. And her father, who participated in the martyrdom of this young woman, eventually became a Believer in Christ as well.
She was then tempted to deny Jesus Christ as they offered to let her live IF she would work for them to infiltrate churches, spy on Christians, etc. According to this former Satanist' account, she refused. Her only reply was: "I BELIEVE IN CHRIST!" And they then proceeded to torture her most brutally, until she finally died. The former Satanist friend never forgot this. And her father, who participated in the martyrdom of this young woman, eventually became a Believer in Christ as well.
MagentaCandle
Skilled Investigator
Other eye-witness accounts from the cases documented include followers of Christ being abducted and nailed to literal crosses and tortured to death. One abducted pastor pleaded with his Satanist persecutors to repent and accept Jesus Christ as Savior, even after he was nailed to such a cross. Finally wearying of his Christian witness, one Satanist took a knife and slashed his throat to silence him. He died on that cross for the testimony of Jesus Christ...in the heart of those mountains known as "the Bible Belt." (People, how little so many of you know about true persecution in America!)
From Indiana, we have the testimony of former high priestess Elaine, now a Christian exposing Satanism. Elaine's daughter Claudia, also being trained at one time to become a high priestess like her mother, admitted: "We Satanists in Indiana even invented a cross that would separate in the middle after the victim was crucified. We also designed wooden spikes instead of metal nails, because it would inflict more pain on the victim. After the victim was nailed to the cross, they were then torn to pieces as we separated the cross into two sections..." believers in God were frequently their victims, both adult and child.
From Indiana, we have the testimony of former high priestess Elaine, now a Christian exposing Satanism. Elaine's daughter Claudia, also being trained at one time to become a high priestess like her mother, admitted: "We Satanists in Indiana even invented a cross that would separate in the middle after the victim was crucified. We also designed wooden spikes instead of metal nails, because it would inflict more pain on the victim. After the victim was nailed to the cross, they were then torn to pieces as we separated the cross into two sections..." believers in God were frequently their victims, both adult and child.
MagentaCandle
Skilled Investigator
Friends, how many times has this scene been repeated throughout the centuries, beginning with the early believers in Christ??? When Christ's followers were brought before Roman tribunals and questioned about their faith, they had a choice. Throw a pinch of incense on the altar to Caesar and declare him to be "divine" ("Caesar is lord") OR to boldly declare "I am a believer in Christ" And for their confession of "I am a follower of Christ" and refusal to bow the knee to Caesar, history records that they were brutally tortured and killed, not even young believers being spared.
Throughout the centuries such persecutions have been repeated worldwide...YET the believers have survived, overcome and even grown during such times. We faithful of God/Christ in America have this great potential to both overcome and to grow, even during the coming season of great persecution. For we, too, are called to be FAITHFUL UNTO DEATH and to be overcomers in the midst of tribulation.
However, the people of God are not being prepared realistically in America for end-time persecution and martyrdom to come in America. Most of Christs followers are NOT being prepared to "contend earnestly for the faith." In fact, many have compromised their witness and testimony of Jesus Christ even under normal circumstances. Often, when threatened to "leave your beliefs in God or Christ out of the workplace," they have consented and refused to be the witnesses for Christ God's Word calls them to be. Often compromise with any of Jesus's texts can begin quite slowly and subtly, but eventually lead to a tragic denial of Jesus Christ in the end. Of this we must beware.
Throughout the centuries such persecutions have been repeated worldwide...YET the believers have survived, overcome and even grown during such times. We faithful of God/Christ in America have this great potential to both overcome and to grow, even during the coming season of great persecution. For we, too, are called to be FAITHFUL UNTO DEATH and to be overcomers in the midst of tribulation.
However, the people of God are not being prepared realistically in America for end-time persecution and martyrdom to come in America. Most of Christs followers are NOT being prepared to "contend earnestly for the faith." In fact, many have compromised their witness and testimony of Jesus Christ even under normal circumstances. Often, when threatened to "leave your beliefs in God or Christ out of the workplace," they have consented and refused to be the witnesses for Christ God's Word calls them to be. Often compromise with any of Jesus's texts can begin quite slowly and subtly, but eventually lead to a tragic denial of Jesus Christ in the end. Of this we must beware.
MagentaCandle
Skilled Investigator
So many are sitting back and hoping for a "Rapture" to take them out before they could ever face end time persecution and martyrdom for His name's sake. Yet they have NOT ONE SCRIPTURE TO STAND ON that conclusively declares this expected scenario to be fulfilled!
NOT ONE SCRIPTURE! In fact, they have just the opposite, as revealed in Matthew 24 where it talks about false prophets deceiving people, which includes falsely teaching that such end time persecution will not overtake them, and that they shall escape by the "Rapture."
By the way, are we living in the time period close to the second coming of Jesus Christ? Of course! Many end-time Bible prophecies being fulfilled in this generation make plain we are living in the end-time period near to His return. But again, since Jesus plainly declared that NO ONE knows the day nor the hour, again it is presumptuous for North American Christians to believe that the "Rapture" will be based upon their desire to escape end-time persecution and hence avoid testing and refining. We are given no such promise that He will return just in time to escape prophesied end-time persecution.
NOT ONE SCRIPTURE! In fact, they have just the opposite, as revealed in Matthew 24 where it talks about false prophets deceiving people, which includes falsely teaching that such end time persecution will not overtake them, and that they shall escape by the "Rapture."
By the way, are we living in the time period close to the second coming of Jesus Christ? Of course! Many end-time Bible prophecies being fulfilled in this generation make plain we are living in the end-time period near to His return. But again, since Jesus plainly declared that NO ONE knows the day nor the hour, again it is presumptuous for North American Christians to believe that the "Rapture" will be based upon their desire to escape end-time persecution and hence avoid testing and refining. We are given no such promise that He will return just in time to escape prophesied end-time persecution.
MagentaCandle said:
Having worked for the news media indirectly, I can assure you nobody is in control.
MagentaCandle said:
Well, are they in place throughout the nation or not?
MagentaCandle said:
You are persecuting us with this madness, you furball.
MagentaCandle said:
'Tis the season for great persecution, fa-la-la-la-la, la-la-la-la.
MagentaCandle said:
Let me correct that for you: "By the way, am I a living nut case who can't get a second breath embarrassing real Christians? Of course!"
Kings 2 : 23
2:23 And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.
2:24 And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tore up forty and two children of them.
a satanist is a christian, a christian is a satanist, its the same theological framework. and they both tear up little children as part of their religion.
thou shalt offer up thy firstborn to the fire, then thou shalt knowest i am lord
and for goodness sakes dont mention the preist's toupee.......
the bible is full of this sort of atrocity
2:23 And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.
2:24 And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tore up forty and two children of them.
a satanist is a christian, a christian is a satanist, its the same theological framework. and they both tear up little children as part of their religion.
thou shalt offer up thy firstborn to the fire, then thou shalt knowest i am lord
and for goodness sakes dont mention the preist's toupee.......
the bible is full of this sort of atrocity
MagentaCandle
Skilled Investigator
mike said:
I agree that certain people who call themselves "Christians" have done things in the past that were just as bad as what Satanists have been doing for just as long.
However, I disagree that the two are the same. A real "Christian" is someone who believes in Christ and His doctrine, and a real "Satanist" is someone who despises Christ and His followers, and does not follow the doctrine of Christ.
Therefore, one is a Christian, the other, an Anti-Christian
MagentaCandle said:
the operative word here is believe.
the satanist believes in christ and His doctrine too.
a typical satanic ritual employs the same symbols, but in a perverted sense, ie upside down cross, but its an upside down cross, christs cross. not an upside down statue of budda.
its like a star trek convention one person may come dressed as a klingon, the other a vulcan, but they are both trekkies, you would not mistake them for star wars costumes.
christians and satanists are sides of the same coin, each relying on the other to validate themselfs, if there had never been any christians, no bible no cross............there would be no satanists.
just as if , had there been no star trek, there would be no klingons.
and just as they believe in but reject your god, you believe in and reject theirs.........
like it or not being a christian means you "subscribe" to the reality of satan
satan like Tinkerbell cant fly unless you believe
MagentaCandle said:
it was the LORD who sent the bears that tore up the children, it was the LORD who ordered abraham to make a pyre and offer up his firstborn to the flame...........
the God of fire and brimstone...............
i wonder how many christians have traced their family tree back ten generations....
deuteronomy 23-2....
Thanks Mate, thats often the case, but one can never be sure.
i find that usually they havent actually read the bible, instead they rely on the local preist or fellowship leader to do so for them.
for obvious reasons, these people are not going to quote the sections i will.
if i can can direct our friend here to the truth, perhaps i can save him/her a stay in the camps after all.
ive chosen the next example specifically because it pertains to the question of what these camps are for.
are we sitting comfortably ? Good. we shall begin
Lot was, according to the bible, a just and righteous man.
One thing that we know about him is that he offered his two virgin daughters to a crowd of rapists, saying:
Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes. Gen.19:8
(Lot was lying about the "virgin" part, just to make his daughters look more attractive to the lecherous mob. According to (Gen.19:14) both of his "virgin" daughters were married.)
And that he later allowed himself to get drunk and impregnate them.
And Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and his two daughters with him.... And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth: Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father. Gen.19:30-36
But that should be enough to show us what God considers "just and righteous."
Today Lot would be brought to trial on charges of inciting pack rape, incest and more, his being drunk wouldnt wash in a court of law as an excuse, and he would be LOCKED UP !!! in a camp
with all the other " just and righteous men".
if you do get to heaven, youll be sharing the breakfast buffet with this guy, and the oversensitive bald guy. im not sure if the bears will be there, i know the 42 children wont be there because the LORD had them torn up by the bears.
is that really where you want to spend eternity ?
i find that usually they havent actually read the bible, instead they rely on the local preist or fellowship leader to do so for them.
for obvious reasons, these people are not going to quote the sections i will.
if i can can direct our friend here to the truth, perhaps i can save him/her a stay in the camps after all.
ive chosen the next example specifically because it pertains to the question of what these camps are for.
are we sitting comfortably ? Good. we shall begin
Lot was, according to the bible, a just and righteous man.
One thing that we know about him is that he offered his two virgin daughters to a crowd of rapists, saying:
Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes. Gen.19:8
(Lot was lying about the "virgin" part, just to make his daughters look more attractive to the lecherous mob. According to (Gen.19:14) both of his "virgin" daughters were married.)
And that he later allowed himself to get drunk and impregnate them.
And Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and his two daughters with him.... And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth: Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father. Gen.19:30-36
But that should be enough to show us what God considers "just and righteous."
Today Lot would be brought to trial on charges of inciting pack rape, incest and more, his being drunk wouldnt wash in a court of law as an excuse, and he would be LOCKED UP !!! in a camp
with all the other " just and righteous men".
if you do get to heaven, youll be sharing the breakfast buffet with this guy, and the oversensitive bald guy. im not sure if the bears will be there, i know the 42 children wont be there because the LORD had them torn up by the bears.
is that really where you want to spend eternity ?
CapnG
Devil's Advocate
To me that passage reads more as an incestuous date-rape. Lot is basically drugged by his two daughters and coerced into sexual congress without any real consent (he can't recall what happened between the time they come to bed and the time they get up).
Certainly this is not moral and proper behaviour as we would consider it, even if they DO think they're the last people on earth...
Certainly this is not moral and proper behaviour as we would consider it, even if they DO think they're the last people on earth...
he could try and tell the judge that............
funny thing he wasnt too drunk to F F Fornicate, but was drunk enough that he blacks out and doesnt remember.
thats a very fine line to tread
and of course it was the girls fault , standard operating procedure for the defense in a rape case, make it her fault.
this is a guy who offers up his girls to the mob to do with as they please, and he expects us to believe he didnt then get drunk and rape them himself later.
a court of law would find the defendant guilty and obviously showing no remorse, and would lock him up.
funny thing he wasnt too drunk to F F Fornicate, but was drunk enough that he blacks out and doesnt remember.
thats a very fine line to tread
and of course it was the girls fault , standard operating procedure for the defense in a rape case, make it her fault.
this is a guy who offers up his girls to the mob to do with as they please, and he expects us to believe he didnt then get drunk and rape them himself later.
a court of law would find the defendant guilty and obviously showing no remorse, and would lock him up.
CapnG
Devil's Advocate
I'm just working with the literal text, written it seems by some apparently impartial third party who squarely blames the daughters. Given that context, a court of law would be declaring an innocent man guilty (though clearly not "father of the year" material by any stretch!)
bsvalley
paranormal master
maybe Menards and Home Depot stores are in on it too. I used to drive Semi and they used those electronic turnstyles in their distribution centers. (good grief). I guess if we experiance the type of emergency we would have to have to actually use those"camps".
My guess is the people in those "camps" will be either very ill or safe from another danger. Or just plain being kept orderly and evacuated from the area. Either way. Not a big deal, Or Maybe its where the aliens are going to herd us (their food supply) on to their ships. (lol)
I'm kidding of course. sometimes a rock, is just a rock.
My guess is the people in those "camps" will be either very ill or safe from another danger. Or just plain being kept orderly and evacuated from the area. Either way. Not a big deal, Or Maybe its where the aliens are going to herd us (their food supply) on to their ships. (lol)
I'm kidding of course. sometimes a rock, is just a rock.
CapnG said:
I think we can reasonably say the "story" was written by men, not women, Lots society was male dominated as evidenced by his being able to offer his daughters to the crowd earlier. i dont think these girls got to tell their "version" of the story at all.
it is typical of the perpetrator of these sorts of crimes to infer the blame was the victims. and thats the version that was recorded.
Dr Phil would tear Lot a new one.
Hes the father, the adult, its incumbent on him not to get so drunk that he F F Fornicates with his own children.
and again, anyone who does get to heaven, will be joining this guy and others just like him at the breakfast buffet.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/pastor-had-sex-with-daughters/2007/08/30/1188067266454.html
The man told the court the sex was not about fulfilling his desires but about teaching his daughters how to behave for their husbands when they eventually married, as dictated in scripture.
the prison camps are for people like him
(his wife and the church remained supportive.)
even if its consenting
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=443023
its still illegal, buts its more than just illegal
Judge Millsteed described the incestuous relationship as "unacceptable"
CapnG
Devil's Advocate
mike said:
Well yes but we're drifting wholly away from the the point which is that these people look to the Bible as a literal truth and basis for all these prophecies of doom yet when forced to examine passages such as those pertaining to Lot with the same literal reading they balk or simply ignore them. The reality of Lot's relations with his daughters is irrelevant in this context (plus we have no real proof there was ever such a city as Sodom or such as person as Lot ANYWAY).
Let's not start splitting hairs in our examination of the hairs being split by others...