Can Anyone Explain The Purpose For These "Camps"?

[MagentaCandle]

Perhaps several years ago, many people who believe in God/Christ would not give heed to such a message as this. Only in recent months are many believers suddenly waking up to the sobering reality that we may be facing end time persecution in our nation as never before. Terrorist events never thought possible to occur on our soil have happened. And now, on the wings of public outcry over the twin tragedies of September 11, 2001, draconian laws are being raced through Congress, supposedly in the effort to help curb terrorism, but suspiciously beginning to sound as if we are slowly being turned into a police state.

Many groups and civil liberties organizations are alarmed at what is unfolding in our nation. Are our liberties being sacrificed for "security?" And who can prove that surrendering vital liberties has EVER brought forth "security" or "protection? Some of the harshest dictatorships with the most stringent and oppressive laws in place have provided no genuine security for it's citizens, only oppression and greater controls over the people.

The emerging government/intelligence community definition of "terrorist" is vague, but perhaps quite deliberately. What IS the definition of a "terrorist?" Great penalties are now being dictated both against "terrorists" and those who "harbor terrorists." "Suspected terrorists" can now be detained indefinitely, without a warrant. The term "potential terrorist" is also being used as well.

 

[MagentaCandle]

Read the following carefully and decide if YOU might fit into their category of a "potential terrorist":

"US Attorney General Janet Reno has sent a confidential memo to the U.S. attorneys that an investigation would take place against "right wing and fundamentalist Christ believers."

It states that investigation and surveillance of right wing political groups and fundamentalists, religious organizations and individuals will take place in certain states. Dossiers on targeted individuals are to be compiled and retained in Washington, D.C. in the Justice Department.

Or how about this quote from former U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno herself?

"In the event of a wide spread uprising (as in martial law or a national disaster) these individuals must be viewed as "potential terrorists."

- Janet Reno, former U.S. Attorney General

 

[MagentaCandle]

Now are you alarmed? With our nation in this present state of national disaster and increasing turmoil as biological warfare agents are being mailed out and reports of new threats surface continually, can you see that the above document refers to this time frame we are in?

Do you begin to understand the sobering implications of the term "potential terrorist?" Many Americans could nod their heads in agreement over the harsh new laws being enacted against "potential terrorists," naively thinking that the government's definition of such terrorists might be "wild eyed Moslem religious fanatics" intent on inflicting terror and pain on "the great Satan," America. But now you know there is a much broader definition of "terrorist" that the government has in mind! And that broader definition includes "right wing political groups, fundamentalist believers in God, religious organizations and individuals."

NOW that you realize this, can you nod your head in agreement over these laws being passed...when you realize they can be used against YOU??? Against your Church? Against your Pastor? Against your religious organization? Against your belief system?

 

[MagentaCandle]

Right wing groups also include America's militias as well, not surprisingly. And note how they are now being targeted WITHOUT SUBSTANTIATION as "potential sources" for the anthrax scare! Today it is both Moslem extremists and America's militias being targeted: tomorrow will it be America's Spiritual people/Christ believers and other "potential terrorists"?

People are beginning to become alarmed when they begin to hear government sources being interviewed on national television following September 11th, who constantly used this term "potential terrorists." For most fellow Americans, the hidden meaning was veiled. But for researchers like myself, the term "police state" began to register in my mind. And with it, the indication of end time persecution that will accompany it for the Believers in America.

All that I have been hearing recently in various news reports tends to confirm the hidden government agenda of intense persecution of the Believers in America to come. And, how such persecution would be activated under the great national disasters anticipated to come to our nation (and tragically welcomed or actually encouraged by those elements who have long planned to use such circumstances to bring this persecution into operation and the New World Order into power).

 

[mike]

that kinda sorta comes together, 911 showed that "believers" can commit acts of unspeakable irrational violence if they "think" they are doing it for a holy cause.

my question then is whats going to set off the christians in such a manner as to require some be incarcerated in prison/mental facilitys.

full disclosure ?

by both the govt AND the EBE's as they call them ?

could be

 

[fitzbew88]

There are numerous covert "concentration camps" located across America, and Canada for the hour of martial law and the seizure of this nation for the New World Order.

Some of these facilities are also incorporated into the military's DUMB's (deep underground military facilities).

Why don't you show us one.

This is one of the main reasons why Christians will be considered a major target for arrest and removal as NWO takeover progresses in America. How many times can it be emphasized that it is time to wake up the churches in America?

Wake up the churches? What country do you live in?

It has also been said that the "resisters" could be turned over to Satanist covens for Human sacrifice.

You are a raving nut case, and I can't believe I've wasted my time trying to talk to you.

While it is true that many, including the Apostle Paul, have been beheaded for the witness of Jesus, if you read it you will see that it is SPECIFICALLY referring to this present time frame of the Kingdom of Satan on Earth (the Kingdom of the Beast or AntiChrist) and the period when the cashless society will be manifested with the mark (Digital Angel/Veri-Chip/RFID Chip?) in one's hand or forehead and it's blasphemous World religious system.

When I asked you for evidence, why didn't you just say: "I don't have any evidence, my faith leads me to believe this is true?" It would've saved us both a lot of grief.

There is obvious reason to believe that Satanists and the Illuminati do not want people who believe in the One True Supreme Creator - God - to be around on this planet for too much longer. I mean why would they? It brings people together, it totally goes against what they want, and it undermines their authority.

Obvious reason, huh.

..many people who believe in God/Christ would not give heed to such a message as this.

Gosh, I wonder why.

Now are you alarmed?

No.

NOW that you realize this, can you nod your head in agreement over these laws being passed...when you realize they can be used against YOU??? Against your Church? Against your Pastor? Against your religious organization? Against your belief system?

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. No.

But for researchers like myself, the term "police state" began to register in my mind. And with it, the indication of end time persecution that will accompany it for the Believers in America.

Let me correct that for you: But for lunatic researchers like myself, the term of our committment to mental healthcare facilities will begin due to the raving paranoia in my mind. And with it, the indication that pharmaceutical help will accompany it for the Betterment of My Brain Chemistry.

Ramen.

 

[CapnG]

Hey Magenta... if God is all knowing and he has a planned destiny for all of us then that means if they ARE building these camps to round up true believers and you happen to wind up in one then I guess God wanted you in there, huh?

 

[Astroboy]

Apparently self-banning doesn't happen often enough.

Just sayin'

 

[MagentaCandle]

Yeah you just keep on laughing. But when this all goes down, don't say I didn't warn you.

 

[MagentaCandle]

Those who study Bible prophecy have long known that great persecution of believers in Christ shall come to every nation, especially in the end times prior to Jesus Christ's return (In consciousness or physical form). Matthew 24 makes this abundantly clear.

Matthew 24:3 - "And as He sat upon the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately and saying, "tell us, when shall these things be? And what shall be the sign of Thy coming, and of the end?" (Note carefully the time frame they are speaking of, and realize that He is speaking especially of this end-time period prior to His return)."

Jesus begins to explain to them many things. He warns of false Christ's, wars and rumors of wars, of nation rising against nation. He warns them of famines and pestilences and earthquakes in many different places. But then He states that "All these are the beginning of sorrows."

He then begins to expound on the coming reality of end-time persecution.

Matthew 24:9 - "Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you, and YE SHALL BE HATED OF ALL NATIONS for My name's sake. And THEN shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another."

 

[MagentaCandle]

Jesus speaks of false prophets arising and deceiving many.

Matthew 24:11 - He reveals that iniquity, or rebellion, will abound, and the love of many shall grow cold as a result.

(We know we are witnessing that hour in which rebellion is abounding and even glorified, both in America and throughout the world. Acts of rebellion which people were formerly ashamed of are now being paraded openly in public and glorified on televisions and movies and rap music.)

He concludes this passage describing the nature of end-time persecution before His return by stating, "BUT HE THAT SHALL ENDURE UNTO THE END, THE SAME SHALL BE SAVED ." Matthew 24:13

Note carefully that He did NOT say, "But he that is RAPTURED, the same shall be saved," but rather "He that shall ENDURE UNTO THE END, the same shall be saved." This is speaking of overcoming persecution and temptation and remaining faithful to Jesus Christ even unto death, and it is speaking clearly in the context of end-time persecution.

 

[MagentaCandle]

Only under a coming ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT that is against God and His Christ (the "New World Order" as it is often referred to today) can believers in Jesus Christ be simultaneously hated in every nation. Jesus declares that ALL NATIONS shall hate His followers in the end times prior to His return, and deliver them up to be afflicted (persecution) and to ultimately be put to death.

And when Jesus states "ALL NATIONS," He means "all nations." All nations must then include the United States of America, in order to fulfill His prophetic word which cannot be broken.

Many believers in Christ have lived under the present delusion that serious persecution unto imprisonment and martyrdom can NEVER take place in America. They point to America's God-fearing founders, the Constitution, First Amendment rights, etc., and many other factors to insist that end-time persecution of this nature can not happen on American soil. Or, they insist that before such persecution could ever take place, the "Rapture" will occur (even before they can "suffer the loss of a hangnail" for Jesus' sake) and they will be taken out from end-time persecution before it can come.

Both of these doctrines are deceptions. They have no foundation in the Word of God and in the words of Jesus Christ (Who IS the Word of God.)

 

[MagentaCandle]

Jesus Christ declared firmly that end time persecution would come to His followers in ALL NATIONS. And that he that ENDURES TO THE END would be saved. (NOT he that is "Raptured!") In fact, He even warned that there would be times (undoubtedly of severe persecution) in which His disciples would long to see the hour of His coming, but that it would not necessarily occur at that desired time to rescue them.

Jesus spoke these words to give a foundation of understanding to His people, and to His believers who would face these tribulations in the end-times as well. He wants His people/people who have accepted God into their life in one form or another to be prepared for the things that they are called to suffer for His name's sake, so that no one might be overcome of evil nor unprepared to face such testing. He warns His people, so that they might begin to prepare themselves spiritually to endure and overcome what they are to face for His sake.

As people have traveled across America, they have been saddened and disappointed by the response of many pastors and many believers in God to this pertinent information. They have turned aside from the truth embodied in end-time prophecy, in order to embrace the doctrine of "the Rapture" or have said that "... because of America's Godly heritage in it's beginning, such incidents of persecution could NEVER happen in America."

 

[MagentaCandle]

People have repeatedly heard pastors lead their congregations to believe that before end-time persecution can come upon the Believers in America, the Rapture will come! Yet, this has not proven to be the reality in many nations in recent decades for people who believe in Christ. We know that millions died in Russia and the former Soviet Union for their faith and unwavering testimony of Jesus Christ. How many have died in China for their faith? How many in the Sudan? Indonesia? Nepal? Cuba? Africa? And all within less than the past one hundred years.

For such persecuted believers, there was no Rapture to save them from end-time persecution. Rather, the Words of Jesus Christ held true: "He that endureth unto the end, the same shall be saved."

Did you know that America is filled with unknown martyrs? Although the names of many of them will never be known to us except in eternity, Believers have been dying for their faith in America for many years. How?

Hard-core Satanism in America, has caused the reality of both children and adults often being targeted and abducted for sacrifice BECAUSE they were believers in Christ (or from homes of people who believe in Christ) and taken away to be brutally tortured and sacrificed. And just because you may have never heard of this means nothing!

 

[CapnG]

Amazing... he just keeps going... like the energizer bunny of rambling christian psychopaths...

I'll tell you this much: if those camps are being built to keep people like Magenta in check I have one thing to say: pass me a hammer.

 

[mike]

perhaps this old parable will provide some perspective.

a buddist , a christian and a satanist were sitting down at a table for lunch. the christian didnt have much to say to the satanist and he in turn held the christian with contempt. the buddist remarked they should try and get along better, they were after all , both of the same faith..............

the satanist IS a christian, hes just a perverted one, hes not a perverted hindu, or a perverted muslim.... hes a christian.

maybe they are going to lock the christians and the satanists up together.

 

[Aaron LeClair]

camps are for sleeping and telling rumors.And bible stories.

 

[Astroboy]

camps are for sleeping and telling rumors.And bible stories.

One time...at band camp...this dude was like, whoa, the world's gonna end. And I sez no way. And he sez ya way. And I sez no way. And he sez yaweh.

Anywayz he was like a total bummer so his parents came and took him home.

 

[Aaron LeClair]

camps are for sleeping and telling rumors.And bible stories.

One time...at band camp...this dude was like, whoa, the world's gonna end. And I sez no way. And he sez ya way. And I sez no way. And he sez yaweh.

Anywayz he was like a total bummer so his parents came and took him home.

See? Astro and me were hangin and stuff. I speak fact not fiction.

 

[fitzbew88]

Yeah you just keep on laughing. But when this all goes down, don't say I didn't warn you.

I won't, I'll be too busy ragging on you for wasting my time.

Hard-core Satanism in America, has caused the reality of both children and adults often being targeted and abducted for sacrifice BECAUSE they were believers in Christ (or from homes of people who believe in Christ) and taken away to be brutally tortured and sacrificed.

Jesus loves me, this I know.
For the Bible tells me so.
Little ones to Him belong.
They are weak, but He is strong.

Yes, Jesus loves me.
Yes, Jesus loves me.
Yes, Jesus loves me
The Bible tells me so.