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Here is another article from CounterPunch which talks about the $385 Million for concentration camps in the United States of America:

http://www.counterpunch.org/sigal03162006.html

In the article, it states:

The federal government has awarded a $385 million contract for the construction of 'temporary detention facilities' inside the United States as part of the Immigration Service's Detention and Removal Program. The contract was given to Kellogg, Root & Brown, a subsidiary of Halliburton. The camps would be used in the event of an "emergency", said Jamie Zuieback, an Immigration service official.

Here is another article from SourceWatch.com about the same $385 Million Dollar Contract to built the concentration camps in the USA:

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title...entration_camps

In the article, it states that:

On January 24, 2006, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security's (DHS) U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) component awarded an Indefinite Delivery/Indefinite Quantity (IDIQ) contingency contract to Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg Brown and Root (KBR) to "support ICE facilities in the event of an emergency"—in essence, American concentration camps

With a maximum total value of $385 million over a five-year term, consisting of a one-year based period and four one-year options, the competitively awarded contract will be executed by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, Fort Worth District. KBR held the previous ICE contract from 2000 through 2005.
 
Here is another article from Global Research that talks about the $385 million dollar deal to build concentration camps in the United States:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?con...&articleId=2045

In the article, it states that:

A recently announced contract for a Halliburton subsidiary to build immigrant detention facilities is part of a longer-term Homeland Security plan titled ENDGAME, which sets as its goal the removal of "all removable aliens" and "potential terrorists." Scott is author of "Drugs, Oil, and War: The United States in Afghanistan, Colombia, and Indochina" (Rowman & Littlefield, 2003). He is completing a book on "The Road to 9/11." Visit his Web site at: http://socrates.berkeley.edu/~pdscott/index.html

The Halliburton subsidiary KBR (formerly Brown and Root) announced on Jan. 24 that it had been awarded a $385 million contingency contract by the Department of Homeland Security to build detention camps. Two weeks later, on Feb. 6, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff announced that the Fiscal Year 2007 federal budget would allocate over $400 million to add 6,700 additional detention beds (an increase of 32 percent over 2006). This $400 million allocation is more than a four-fold increase over the FY 2006 budget, which provided only $90 million for the same purpose.

ENDGAME's crash program is designed to house additional detainees who have not been convicted of crimes.

Significantly, both the KBR contract and the ENDGAME plan are open-ended. The contract calls for a response to "an emergency influx of immigrants, or to support the rapid development of new programs" in the event of other emergencies, such as "a natural disaster." "New programs" is of course a term with no precise limitation. So, in the current administration, is ENDGAME's goal of removing "potential terrorists."

It is relevant that in 2002, Attorney General John Ashcroft announced his desire to see camps for U.S. citizens deemed to be "enemy combatants." In a speech to the Council on Foreign Relations, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld spoke of the harm being done to the country's security, not just by the enemy, but also by what he called "news informers" who needed to be combated in "a contest of wills." Two days earlier, citing speeches critical of Bush by Al Gore, John Kerry, and Howard Dean, conservative columnist Ben Shapiro called for "legislation to prosecute such sedition."

Since 9/11 the Bush administration has implemented a number of inter-related programs, which had been planned for secretly in the 1980s under President Reagan. These so-called "Continuity of Government" or COG proposals included vastly expanded detention capabilities, warrantless eavesdropping and detention, and preparations for greater use of martial law.

North's exercise, which reportedly contemplated possible suspension of the United States Constitution, led to questions being asked during the Iran-Contra Hearings. One concern then was that North's plans for expanded internment and detention facilities would not be confined to "refugees" alone.
 
Here is a 2006 Article from Global Research that gives a detailed description on the concentration camps that FEMA is currently constructing in the United States:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?con...&articleId=3010

In the article, it states that:

We are dangerously close to a situation where ~ if the American people took to the streets in righteous indignation or if there were another 9/11 ~ a mechanism for martial law could be quickly implemented and carried out under REX 84.

The Cheney/Bush administration has a plan which would accommodate the detention of large numbers of American citizens during times of emergency.

Existence of the Rex 84 plan was first revealed during the Iran-Contra Hearings in 1987, and subsequently reported by the Miami Herald on July 5, 1987:

" These camps are to be operated by FEMA should martial law need to be implemented in the United States and all it would take is a presidential signature on a proclamation and the attorney general's signature on a warrant to which a list of names is attached."

There over 800 prison camps in the United States, all fully operational and ready to receive prisoners. They are all staffed and even surrounded by full-time guards, but they are all empty. These camps are to be operated by FEMA should martial law need to be implemented in the United States and all it would take is a presidential signature on a proclamation and the attorney general's signature on a warrant to which a list of names is attached.

The camps all have railroad facilities as well as roads leading to and from the detention facilities. Many also have an airport nearby. The majority of the camps can house a population of 20,000 prisoners.

Currently, the largest of these facilities is just outside of Fairbanks, Alaska. The Alaskan facility is a massive mental health facility and can hold thousands of people.
 
Did you know that this once happened ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Snow_White

"This project included a series of infiltrations and thefts from 136 government agencies, foreign embassies and consulates, as well as private organizations critical of Scientology, carried out by Church members; the single largest infiltration of the United States government in history[1] with up to 5,000 covert agents."

Maybe they are to lock up all the $cientologists.

the anti Scientology propaganda is going full swing world wide, with tom cruises body language at a recent speech being compared to goebels.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/01/21/wcruise121.xml


maybe its cult busting on a grand scale, if they had tried to take over the Australian Govt the way they tried to take over the US govt, i'd have wanted every last one of them locked up


of course they may have already succeded and the camps may be for the SP's as the scientoligists call "certain people".

"They said, 'So like, have you met an SP?' " Then he laughs this sort of loud, intense thing, his mouth open, clapping his hands together. "I looked at them, and you know and I thought, 'What a beautiful thing,' because maybe one day it'll be like that. You know what I'm saying? Maybe one day it'll be like that. Wow, SPs, they'll just read about those in history books."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/17/AR2008011703583.html

swap the label SP with another label the meaning is still clear

"They said, 'So like, have you met an Jew?' " Then he laughs this sort of loud, intense thing, his mouth open, clapping his hands together. "I looked at them, and you know and I thought, 'What a beautiful thing,' because maybe one day it'll be like that. You know what I'm saying? Maybe one day it'll be like that. Wow, Jews, they'll just read about those in history books."

sounds familiar to me

i could use any label blacks, asians the list goes on. its the idea that you could create a future where a certain label was only found in the history books

in this case SP is a suppresive person........... what are your crimes ?

maybe the scientologists have taken over the US govt and the camps are for SP's
 
MagentaCandle said:
You have already under-estimated your fellow Brothers and Sisters.
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Trust me --- if you knew my brothers and sisters --- you'd realize that's not possible.

MagentaCandle said:
Many of them have already seen the Truth.
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Dope is not a truth.

MagentaCandle said:
Many of them are already speaking out. You seem to be defending the governments claims for the reasons for the camps. You also forget that over 800 have already been built.
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On average, 16 in every state? Already built? Can you give me a list?

MagentaCandle said:
The evidence is at hand. All you need to do is to be able to see it.
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Asking for it sure doesn't get me anywhere. :frown:
 
i wonder if the "contractors" behind these bases have links to $cientology

"Laws in the German states of Hamburg and Bavaria require that companies with government contracts and some private companies be free of connections to the Church of Scientology."

in fact a google of govt contracts scientology throws up lots of this stuff.

surely a "church" couldnt be bad.......

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i know i know as consipracy theorys go this is a doozy, but then everything ive found out about this lot, and their plans for world domination is craaaaaaazy stuff.

"SP's have no rights and merit destruction"

now where have i heard that before ?
 
Here is a 2008 KLTV News Article about FEMA planning to use TRAINS to move massive amounts of people during the next "Emergency Situation":

http://www.kltv.com/Global/story.asp?S=785...nav=menu117_2_1

In the article, it states that:

After 2005's Hurricane Katrina, Amtrak was hired to be on hand if another hurricane struck -- to evacuate people with special needs.

Cannon says FEMA is now devising disaster plans for other Gulf Coast cities based on the New Orleans model.

City officials say Congress and FEMA should create a national plan to use trains in disasters.
 
Here is another 2008 WKYC News Article about how FEMA plans to use TRAINS to "evacuate" people during the next "National Emergency":

http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=83188

In the article, it states that:

However, an assistant administrator of the Federal Emergency Management Agency says it won't be easy. Glenn Cannon told a congressional subcommittee that rights of way for most railroads are privately owned by freight companies. And he says there's no congressional mandate to use railroads for evacuations.
 
Folks, DO NOT GET ON THOSE TRAINS.

Phil Schneider talked about FEMA trains to take people to camps over 10 years ago.

Phil Schneider was a geologist and structural engineer, who became known in the early 1990's for giving lectures about his alleged work inside top secret facilities being built by the United States government.

Here is a video of Phil Schneider talking about FEMA trains and the Gunderson Steel Fabrication company which he claimed was building prisoner cars (train cars) in the 1990's in preparation for their New World Order plans. He talks about shackles in the trains, ect:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=81...=schneider+phil

Phil Schneider was an extraordinarily brave man who knew that he was going to be killed because of the information he was revealing to the American public in the Spring/Summer of 1995. He was murdered on or about January 10, 1996 in Oregon. His ex-wife, Cynthia Drayer, was notified about a week after his death. Local police originally called it a natural death by stroke, but later changed it to suicide when an autopsy (insisted upon by Phil's ex-wife) revealed marks around his throat-indicating death by strangulation.
 
MagentaCandle, when I saw this video I just thought of you immediately.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=http://youtube.com/watch?v=YVGj44PeGaI
 
The Camps are simply for all the people who are about to lose their homes as the market crashes and their savings as the dollar becomes worthless. No conspiracy here. Just a country heading for a depression.
 
Anonymous22 said:
The Camps are simply for all the people who are about to lose their homes as the market crashes and their savings as the dollar becomes worthless. No conspiracy here. Just a country heading for a depression.
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You sound so sure of yourself. And yet you posted nothing to back up your claim.
 
Well I'm not buying it at all. I think this is a nightmare scenario.

Trains for the sick and elderly? Lol. Are you serious? FEMA didn't do squat when the sick and elderly were drowning and dying in their wheelchairs during that hellish week of Huricane Katrina. Do you people really believe that FEMA is a loving, fuzzy, cuddly organization that cares so much about the sick and the elderly? For crying out loud they are now tied into the United States Department of Defense!

And another thing, the amount of train cars being built, and the amount of trains being built, can hold WAY WAY more people in them than just the sick and the elderly. Whats all the extra space for? Hmmm...could it be MORE people?

And where are these trains going to bring the people that are filled with them? Are they going to cruise past a homeless shelter and drop them off? lol. Hell no. There aren't even enough Homeless shelters to hold them all. Are they going to drop them in other cities? Yeah right. The cities that they were dropped in would be filled to their maximum capacity, and the economies of those cities would be strained with all the new people to feed and clothe. So thats not going to happen.

Hmmm....so what does that leave us with folks? Can we say, The over 800 FEMA concentration camps that can hold millions of people in total? Can we say, the same camps from the same videos I posted that are located RIGHT NEXT TO the train tracks?

I'm telling you what. There is no way in hell I'm getting on any FEMA train, and going to any camp where they are going to hold me "indefinately". F-ck that.

Straight from the article:

NEW ORLEANS (AP) - The Federal Emergency Management Agency may expand the use of passenger trains to evacuate the sick and elderly in advance of hurricanes across the Gulf Coast, a FEMA official said.

Glenn Cannon, a FEMA assistant administrator, told a congressional subcommittee meeting in New Orleans on Monday that his agency is looking at passenger trains as a method of getting people out of harm's way.

After Hurricane Katrina hit in August 2005, Amtrak was hired to be on hand to evacuate people if another disaster hit.

And then there is this very worrysome statement:

But, he said, turning railways into evacuation routes won't be easy.

Rights of way for most railroads are privately owned by freight companies, and there is no congressional mandate to use railroads for evacuations.

So what does that mean? Hmmm..does that mean that FEMA and/or the President and/or congress is going to physically change the laws so that they can take posession of most railways in our country for their own purposes? VERY, VERY, Scary folks.

Please look at this with an open mind and open EYES. We need to do something. It's all coming into fruition, and if we don't do anything we're going to be screwed in the end.

The mind is like a parachute folks. It works better when it's open.

http://www.wtopnews.com/index.php?nid=104&sid=1343646
 
MagentaCandle said:
Well I'm not buying it at all. I think this is a nightmare scenario.


I'm telling you what. There is no way in hell I'm getting on any FEMA train, and going to any camp where they are going to hold me "indefinately". F-ck that.
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I agree with you there, you should prob get on a Qantas Plane and immigrate here, or any other place that takes your fancy. the sensible thing to do would be to get out now while you can.


Unless you think you can avert this Nightmare somehow ?

To do that you need to know exactly why they are building them, the fact that they are building them is in itself of no consequence, plausable deniability etc etc. Youve shown me the What, but i seemed to have missed the Why.

Do you know why they are going to do this thing ?
 
Magenta LISTEN. As long as I've been reading about conspiracies people have been saying there are camps and the round up is imminent. It hasn't happened in the last 25 years (not that it could never heppen...I just don't see it happening anytime soon).

I made the simple observation that the "CAMP" in your original post appeared to be a facility with security to prevent INTRUSION...not escape.

I also pointed out that even COMMERCIAL sites require fences, gates, and possibly cameras and movement detectors to prevent INTRUSION.

This is for insurance and liability reasons. If someone comes on the property and gets killed or injured the owner MIGHT be held liable depending on the insurance company, laywers, judge etc.

So again...please demonstrate that what is in the video is a DETENTION facility. The person taking the video could simply have walked up to the exit roto-gate and spun it to see if it allowed exit but he/she made a lot of innuendo's with little substantiation.

~Foo Fighter~
 
~Foo Fighter~ said:
Magenta LISTEN.

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So again...please demonstrate that what is in the video is a DETENTION facility. The person taking the video could simply have walked up to the exit roto-gate and spun it to see if it allowed exit but he/she made a lot of innuendo's with little substantiation.
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I do not think he really believes any of this is true. I think he just enjoys seeing us react to it.
 
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