Can Anyone Explain The Purpose For These "Camps"?

[Rick Deckard]

I know you're only joking, but that statement reeks of fascism.

But even though you know he's joking, you still feel justified in saying this?

Look up the definition of this: TROLL.

Hey, I get a new badge!! That's the first time I've been called a 'troll'. Thanks.

He posted that comment knowing full well that someone would respond - I obliged.

 

[mike]

i posted that comment for the entertainment of the target audience and i'm certain the primary result was a smile

smiles are good

 

[mike]

But seriously we have these camps here too down under, we even have one at woomera where our rockets get launched..............

but they are for the dentention of illegal immigrants, we are on an island so its not a huge problem, but the USA being landlocked with other countrys is reported to have a massive illegal immigration problem and as if that werent enough, the events of 911 compound that problem.

in a world of suitcase nukes and a demonstrated ill intent (911) you have to take every measure you need to for the good of the many.

as for NWO etc, all i can say is down here the govt of 11 years had enacted workplace legislation that reeked of NWO conspiracy. peoples rights in the workplace were stripped , companys with less than 100 workers were exempted from unfair dismissal claims (ie you get sacked for having a bad hair day if the boss is a Btard and you theres bugger all you can do.
the social climate was nervous ppl started talking about how they would never take out a mortgage with no job security. ppl were being forced onto contracts that paid less than the minimum (award) rates

if you worked 9 to five mon - fri for last 10 years, the boss could now make you work saturday as well for no extra pay. all legal under the govts NWO legislation to subjigate the masses and make the bussiness owners rich.

you should have seen the look on their faces after counting was done last election, they werent just kicked out on their ass's, the pundits reckon they wont see govt again in at least a decade.

the new govt is having a ripe old time in parliment telling the shattered opposition how much paperwork associated with that legislation is being pulped and recycled.


people power at its best

 

[MagentaCandle]

But seriously we have these camps here too down under, we even have one at woomera where our rockets get launched..............

but they are for the dentention of illegal immigrants, we are on an island so its not a huge problem, but the USA being landlocked with other countrys is reported to have a massive illegal immigration problem and as if that werent enough, the events of 911 compound that problem.

in a world of suitcase nukes and a demonstrated ill intent (911) you have to take every measure you need to for the good of the many.

as for NWO etc, all i can say is down here the govt of 11 years had enacted workplace legislation that reeked of NWO conspiracy. peoples rights in the workplace were stripped , companys with less than 100 workers were exempted from unfair dismissal claims (ie you get sacked for having a bad hair day if the boss is a Btard and you theres bugger all you can do.
the social climate was nervous ppl started talking about how they would never take out a mortgage with no job security. ppl were being forced onto contracts that paid less than the minimum (award) rates

if you worked 9 to five mon - fri for last 10 years, the boss could now make you work saturday as well for no extra pay. all legal under the govts NWO legislation to subjigate the masses and make the bussiness owners rich.

you should have seen the look on their faces after counting was done last election, they werent just kicked out on their ass's, the pundits reckon they wont see govt again in at least a decade.

the new govt is having a ripe old time in parliment telling the shattered opposition how much paperwork associated with that legislation is being pulped and recycled.


people power at its best

lol.

Our government (The United States Government) is pushing for open borders. It's not about the illegals. The camps are not for them.

 

[mike]

Our government (The United States Government) is pushing for open boarders.

i could find any reference to that here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_immigration_to_the_United_States

reading this extract suggests quite a problem

The Mexican government has worked to make illegal immigration to the U.S. easier.

It plans to produce 70,000 maps marking main roads and water tanks for people wanting to cross illegally into the US. According to Mauricio Farah of Mexico's Human Rights Commission, "The only thing we are trying to do is warn them of the risks they face and where to get water, so they don't die," But Russ Knocke, a spokesman for US Homeland Security said maps would not improve safety for those trying to cross the border, "It is not helpful for anyone, no matter how well intended they might be, to produce road maps that lead aliens into the desolate and dangerous areas along the border, and potentially invite criminal activity, human exploitation and personal risk,"[47]
the Yucatan government (a state of Mexico) also produces educational materials (a handbook and DVD) to instruct its citizens on how to cross the border and how to avoid notice as an illegal immigrant once the border has been crossed. This guide also tells immigrants where to find health care, how to get their kids into U.S. schools and how to send money home. Sara Zapata Mijares of the Los Angeles Yacatecan Club and officials in Yucatan say illegal immigration is a reality and the guide is a necessity to save lives. Ira Mehlman of the Federation for American Immigration Reform says, "This is really the way they keep their corrupt system afloat, by sending their excess workers to the United States and getting billions of dollars in remittances every year ... so for them this is a worthwhile investment".[48]
The Mexican government distributes a comic book which instructs illegal immigrants on how to sneak across the border. That comic book recommends to illegal immigrants, once they've safely crossed the border, "Don't call attention to yourself. ... Avoid loud parties. ... Don't become involved in fights." The Mexican government defends the guide as an attempt to save lives. "It's kind of like illegal immigration for dummies," said the executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies in Washington, Mark Krikorian. "Promoting safe illegal immigration is not the same as arguing against it."

if the US govt does want open borders
by all means point me in the right direction

 

[Frozen E.T. Burrito]

I wouldn't think it at all a coincidence that they have railroads running by them.

 

[Tommy Allison]

Mass exterminations folks. Across the globe because the so called enlightened academics are telling us all that there's just not enough resources to go around.

 

[Rick Deckard]

Has anybody tried contacting their 'democratically elected' official (it would be your local MP here in the UK, I don't know what it is for USA) about these camps?

In the UK we have 'holding centres' for people such as 'asylum seekers' - they are put in these places while their case for asylum is looked into...if they're found to be 'illegal immigrants', they are sent back otherwise they are granted asylum.

We have an enormous problem with 'people trafficking'.

 

[Rick Deckard]

Mass exterminations folks. Across the globe because the so called enlightened academics are telling us all that there's just not enough resources to go around.

Surely a more effective way to reduce world population is to 'encourage' the birth-rate down to a level significantly below the death-rate...

...perhaps the 'enlightened' Catholic church will do a u-turn and stop discouraging contraception - but I doubt it.

 

[MagentaCandle]

Well, here's one citizen who is up to speed on whats going on in the United States of America:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=vFNAEYQkD3s

 

[MagentaCandle]

Here is the actual United States Homeland Security document that outlines the plan to build "Detention Camps" all around the United States:

http://cryptogon.com/docs/endgame.pdf

It doesn't get any better than the actual document folks.

 

[fitzbew88]

Well, here's one citizen who is up to speed on whats going on in the United States of America:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=vFNAEYQkD3s

Please allow me to save everyone some time: Go straight to 7:00 and listen forward to the end. Then, if you still assign credibility to the author, go back and listen to the first seven minutes.

A lot of people have a "conspiracy complex". They need to see themselves as "victims" of a conspiracy because it gives them a framework for the pain they feel. They are lonely and angry, but they don't really know why. So, they just imagine vast conspiracies --- they blame the government. It's easier.

A levee breaks during a hurricane, well that's a government conspiracy. An earthquake causes a tsunami, well that's a government conspiracy. Some terrorists fly some planes into some buildings, well that's a government conspiracy. A president is killed, well that's a government conspiracy. The government makes plans for future crises --- well that's a government conspiracy.

The truth is harder to accept. Engineers make blunders. Tectonic plates shift without any regard for human life. People kill each other for nebulous reasons. Crazy people can bypass even the most elaborate of precautions. Governments try to make uncomfortable-sounding plans for Bad Things that may happen.

People that suffer from the "victim complex" can't accept the seeming randomness of the universe. They need someone to blame for their condition --- and the government is an easy target. If the "Conspiritites" are willing to suspend their disbelief --- or even take some things at face value --- then they can build a huge system of self-supporting fantasy.

And every time they find a gullible person to buy into it with them, it becomes a little easier for them to detach from reality. By hiding behind imaginary problems with a few comforting friends, they can avoid the real problems --- the real crimes taking place every day.

 

[fitzbew88]

Here is the actual United States Homeland Security document that outlines the plan to build "Detention Camps" all around the United States:

http://cryptogon.com/docs/endgame.pdf

It doesn't get any better than the actual document folks.

Oh no! The Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement has a plan to remove illegal immigrants?

What next? The Drug Enforcement Agency will start developing plans to combat illegal drugs!

RELEASE THE HOUNDS!!

 

[Rick Deckard]

Well, here's one citizen who is up to speed on whats going on in the United States of America:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=vFNAEYQkD3s

Please allow me to save everyone some time: Go straight to 7:00 and listen forward to the end. Then, if you still assign credibility to the author, go back and listen to the first seven minutes.

A lot of people have a "conspiracy complex". They need to see themselves as "victims" of a conspiracy because it gives them a framework for the pain they feel. They are lonely and angry, but they don't really know why. So, they just imagine vast conspiracies --- they blame the government. It's easier.

A levee breaks during a hurricane, well that's a government conspiracy. An earthquake causes a tsunami, well that's a government conspiracy. Some terrorists fly some planes into some buildings, well that's a government conspiracy. A president is killed, well that's a government conspiracy. The government makes plans for future crises --- well that's a government conspiracy.

The truth is harder to accept. Engineers make blunders. Tectonic plates shift without any regard for human life. People kill each other for nebulous reasons. Crazy people can bypass even the most elaborate of precautions. Governments try to make uncomfortable-sounding plans for Bad Things that may happen.

People that suffer from the "victim complex" can't accept the seeming randomness of the universe. They need someone to blame for their condition --- and the government is an easy target. If the "Conspiritites" are willing to suspend their disbelief --- or even take some things at face value --- then they can build a huge system of self-supporting fantasy.

And every time they find a gullible person to buy into it with them, it becomes a little easier for them to detach from reality. By hiding behind imaginary problems with a few comforting friends, they can avoid the real problems --- the real crimes taking place every day.

And there's the people who are willing to accept everything that their Governments tell them. They're the most dangerous people of all.

You appear to be promoting a "super theory" to explain all conspiracies - that anyone who doesn't believe the 'official' explanation is creating an alternative reality for themselves. Why would they do that? I'd much rather believe that ill man orchestrated the biggest attacks on the American homeland since Pearl Harbour from a cave in Afghanistan using planes hi-jacked with box-cutters than accepting the possibility that the criminal elements within the Government and Military establishment made it happen or allowed it to happen on purpose to further their own agendas, but the facts just don't add up.

In your opinion fitzbew88, do you think there is anything in any of the main conspiracies or are most people on this forum suffering from a "victim complex".

Have I got a "victim complex"?

Why are you even on these forums?

I use the forums to test my understanding of certain theories whereas some people appear to use the forums to defend their belief in the accepted theories. They know that's going to lead to 'conflict' but they do it anyway. What sort of person would do that? A troll?

 

[fitzbew88]

And there's the people who are willing to accept everything that their Governments tell them. They're the most dangerous people of all.

It seems strange to me to consider the sheep more dangerous than the wolves, but I think I understand your meaning: it is dangerous to keep your mouth shut in the face of injustice by government or anyone else. ("They came for my Buick, and I said nothing...")

You appear to be promoting a "super theory" to explain all conspiracies...

Not at all. Just offering up an idea as to why "some" people believe this stuff.

...I'd much rather believe that ill man orchestrated the biggest attacks on the American homeland since Pearl Harbour from a cave in Afghanistan using planes hi-jacked with box-cutters than accepting the possibility that the criminal elements within the Government and Military establishment made it happen or allowed it to happen on purpose to further their own agendas, but the facts just don't add up.

I understand how you feel, it is hard to accept that it's possible. But so far, there is no reason to believe that it is not true and a lot of reason to believe that it is true.

I think you were just venting in the rest of your post, I'm just ignoring it.

 

[Rick Deckard]

It seems strange to me to consider the sheep more dangerous than the wolves, but I think I understand your meaning: it is dangerous to keep your mouth shut in the face of injustice by government or anyone else.

Well, not just that - if you entrust power over to a group of individuals and don't bother to scrutinize their actions then they will eventually abuse that power.

Last year I read:

The official 9/11 report along with the following books:

The 9/11 Commission Report - Omissions and Distortions

The New Pearl Harbour - Disturbing Questions about the Bush Administration and 9/11

9/11 and the American Empire - Intellectuals Speak Out (Vol 1)

The evidence stacks up against an inside job - key individuals with the US Gov and Military either made it happen or let it happen and they're using Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden as scape goats - that's not to say I support the activities of those two individuals either.

 

[MagentaCandle]

Here is the actual United States Homeland Security document that outlines the plan to build "Detention Camps" all around the United States:

http://cryptogon.com/docs/endgame.pdf

It doesn't get any better than the actual document folks.

Oh no! The Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement has a plan to remove illegal immigrants?

What next? The Drug Enforcement Agency will start developing plans to combat illegal drugs!

RELEASE THE HOUNDS!!

lol. Our government is pushing for open borders. The camps are not for the illegals.

 

[MagentaCandle]

Here is a video that shows Oliver North being questioned about the "continuity of government" that could end up placing millions of Americans in FEMA concentration camps:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ug0IL7k3elQ

 

[Frozen E.T. Burrito]

It seems strange to me to consider the sheep more dangerous than the wolves

Because it's the sheep being sheep that allows the wolves their power.

 

[Rick Deckard]

Because it's the sheep being sheep that allows the wolves their power.

I said the same thing, but I like your wording better.

Here is a video that shows Oliver North being questioned about the "continuity of government" that could end up placing millions of Americans in FEMA concentration camps...

Wow, there's some shifty looking 'spooks' in that room.