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December 13, 2015 — Walter Bosley

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Since you raised the question, just how many white supremacist groups are there in the U.S., and how many members do they have? In contrast, in proportion to the total number of Muslims in the world, over 1.5 billion, how many are members of ISIS. I've heard about 30,000, although many have been killed.
 
Gene Steinberg said:
Since you raised the question, just how many white supremacist groups are there in the U.S., and how many members do they have? In contrast, in proportion to the total number of Muslims in the world, over 1.5 billion, how many are members of ISIS. I've heard about 30,000, although many have been killed.
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Gene, do you realize that if you lived in Saudi Arabia, you'd be executed, beheaded, for being a witch? Islam is a violent death cult. In every country that is run by an Islamic Theocracy, everything from adultery to blasphemy is punishable by death. So ISIS is not the only problem when it come to the Muslim faith. They are just the tip of the iceberg. When they are gone, another, even more deadly group with take their place. I am not so sure that there really is such a person as a moderate Muslim. What's moderate about stoning your daughter to death because she goes with a man you don't approve of. It beggers belief that anyone raised in a western culture can condone Islamic brutality toward women. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/15/opinion/saudi-arabias-execution-spree.html?_r=0
 
I've met Muslims,Jews,Christians,religious groups of all kinds,Atheists,Witches and Wizards amongst all these groups I've met some of the nicest folks you'll meet I've also met some complete tools!.We are all fallible humans.
I agree there is a faction claiming the Muslim faith that are highly dangerous and skew their religion for evil purposes,however they are a tiny minority despite the media scare mongering.I grew up in the 70,s believing every Irish Catholic was either IRA or a sympathizer.As I matured I realised this was nonsense and now one of my closest friends is Irish Catholic.I truly believe there is a not so subtle campaign to divide us through fear,the ultimate goal escapes me at the moment but we must not fall for it.I policed for 20 years in several UK cities so I don't believe the world is all fluffy bunnies and unicorns but persecuting a whole religious group for the actions of a few never has been and never will be the answer.
 
banshee said:
Gene, do you realize that if you lived in Saudi Arabia, you'd be executed, beheaded, for being a witch? Islam is a violent death cult. In every country that is run by an Islamic Theocracy, everything from adultery to blasphemy is punishable by death. So ISIS is not the only problem when it come to the Muslim faith. They are just the tip of the iceberg. When they are gone, another, even more deadly group with take their place. I am not so sure that there really is such a person as a moderate Muslim. What's moderate about stoning your daughter to death because she goes with a man you don't approve of. It beggers belief that anyone raised in a western culture can condone Islamic brutality toward women. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/15/opinion/saudi-arabias-execution-spree.html?_r=0
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You are conflating a country with religion.
 
banshee said:
Gene, do you realize that if you lived in Saudi Arabia, you'd be executed, beheaded, for being a witch? Islam is a violent death cult. In every country that is run by an Islamic Theocracy, everything from adultery to blasphemy is punishable by death. So ISIS is not the only problem when it come to the Muslim faith. They are just the tip of the iceberg. When they are gone, another, even more deadly group with take their place. I am not so sure that there really is such a person as a moderate Muslim. What's moderate about stoning your daughter to death because she goes with a man you don't approve of. It beggers belief that anyone raised in a western culture can condone Islamic brutality toward women. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/15/opinion/saudi-arabias-execution-spree.html?_r=0
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I don't condone brutality to anyone. Nobody in this forum condones it as far as I can see.
Do you think Gene is saying that Saudi Arabia or any other country executing people for not being Muslim is ok and that it's just cultural relativism?
I read his posts and I totally don't get that from what he said.
PS not trying to put words in anyone's mouths just an observation
 
A moderate person throws all of the brutal abusive heritage out of their father's religion and chooses a better way. I don't buy that all people born into that religion are by necessity fully bought into dogma. How many in this world are brainwashed into believing some crazy inhumane scripture? Some.
 
And I cannot believe there's anything radical about the funny, bubbly Muslim woman, wearing traditional dress, who works as a cashier at the neighborhood Circle K.
 
I grew up in the deep south, and have experienced the violence of those who claim Christianity in a real way. I had to defend myself from physical attacks that were launched on so-called christian ideals. So should I call all Christians out for the violence of their worst members? No, because I am capable of non-binary thought, and not a member of any group that would demand I do.

I think its better to educate the radically religious, if that is possible, and try to bring them up to speed with the real world, before they kill us all.

It's an invisible friend who lives in the sky, and it deserves only as much respect as any fictional being. But the humans who believe in it deserve our utmost compassion.
 
When I first met the woman who, for a decade at least, was my mother-in-law in Alabama, she said some people believed that Jews slept at night in coffins. That's what she said, but she accepted me when I married her daughter. And even though the marriage never worked out, she's stayed in touch all these years.

When I worked at one radio station, the sales manager took me around to local Jewish merchants, as their "house" New York Jew, in order to sell ads. That silly scheme actually succeeded for a time. We're talking about the late 60s where I worked at stations in Tuscumbia and Sheffield, AL.
 
Gene, please write an autobiography, I'd like to hear more of what made you the man you are. You have a perspective that some of us lack, but hope to achieve.
 
I don't need to bore anybody with my life. Actually, Geneva, my first wife, did write an autobiography covering several years of our lives together, but the book never found a publisher. I don't even know if she even has the manuscript anymore, and, besides, it was only relevant in the early 1970s. But not now, and it's more of a journal than a book when I think of it now.
 
Gene, your self-deprecating humor is a welcome respite from many paranormally sized egos we see. I get it. But for gosh sakes write that book. I'm quite interested in how you got where you are and I can't be alone. I wanna hear your story, in your words. Don't deflect this true interest with jokes. I'm not joking that I would buy the Gene Steinberg story, limited cash and all.
 
I honestly don't see how my personal story would be interesting to anyone. It's not the same as focusing on my encounters with UFO field personalities and such, and Jim Moseley mined that territory with his book, and I shared some of those experiences. I just don't see it for me, however.
 
OK. Cool. I won't withdraw my interest but I appreciate you considering the idea. I often find the human story behind the cryptomystery to be just as insightful and meaningful as the encounters. You n Chris could make a 'paracasting' book just as interesting as a bunch of encounters. Just my opinion. 'Nuff said.
 
Vimana said:
OK. Cool. I won't withdraw my interest but I appreciate you considering the idea. I often find the human story behind the cryptomystery to be just as insightful and meaningful as the encounters. You n Chris could make a 'paracasting' book just as interesting as a bunch of encounters. Just my opinion. 'Nuff said.
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Listen to V Gene, I totally agree. No doubt you can't see how it's interesting from your perspective. Slice of life you know?
If you just don't feel like it then I get that, but I like your stories.:cool:
A book with Chris ain't a bad idea either.
 
Ron Away said:
I've met Muslims,Jews,Christians,religious groups of all kinds,Atheists,Witches and Wizards amongst all these groups I've met some of the nicest folks you'll meet I've also met some complete tools!.We are all fallible humans.
I agree there is a faction claiming the Muslim faith that are highly dangerous and skew their religion for evil purposes,however they are a tiny minority despite the media scare mongering.I grew up in the 70,s believing every Irish Catholic was either IRA or a sympathizer.As I matured I realised this was nonsense and now one of my closest friends is Irish Catholic.I truly believe there is a not so subtle campaign to divide us through fear,the ultimate goal escapes me at the moment but we must not fall for it.I policed for 20 years in several UK cities so I don't believe the world is all fluffy bunnies and unicorns but persecuting a whole religious group for the actions of a few never has been and never will be the answer.
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Wake up. We are talking about state sanctioned violence here. ISIS 'issues fatwa ordering suffocation of babies with Down’s syndrome
 
Mr. Fibuli said:
A moderate person throws all of the brutal abusive heritage out of their father's religion and chooses a better way. I don't buy that all people born into that religion are by necessity fully bought into dogma. How many in this world are brainwashed into believing some crazy inhumane scripture? Some.
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The difference is, you leave this religion, only on threat of death.
 
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