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Suzuki? REALLY? you want to go there with this bozo? Probably one of the worst of the lot. I could post pages of BS froom this non debating "warmist" Here is a nice Suzuki quote..
“We have become a force of nature … Not long ago, hurricanes, tornadoes, floods, drought, forest fires, even earthquakes and volcanic explosions were accepted as “natural disasters or “acts of God.” But now, we have joined God, powerful enough to influence these events.”
 
I expected as much from you Pixel. Like I said, if you don't like what you hear, you put your fingers in your ears and sing. It's all good. At least the air quality in my house is fine. I just got my radon test results back and all is well.
 
Suzuki is a believer like you, in the early 70's he was one of those proclaiming we were all going to die from global cooling. I do like some of his work not relating to AGW.
 
Angel of Ioren said:
I expected as much from you Pixel. Like I said, if you don't like what you hear, you put your fingers in your ears and sing. It's all good. At least the air quality in my house is fine. I just got my radon test results back and all is well.
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seriously Angelo... you want to get your science from a biologist that believes we are like gods now? A guy who flip flops so drastically that he believed humans were causing global cooling and now global warming? a guy who like al gore will not debate his position? amazing, and not very skeptical. A true scientist WELCOMES debate, welcomes skepticism, he duplicates then tries to falsify his findings.
 
Is NASA Wrong About Global Warming? Ex-Employees Speak Out

The government is overreacting to a largely unreal threat of global warming and NASA isn't helping, states a report issued by The Right Climate Stuff (TCRS) research team.
Comprised largely of ex-NASA engineers and scientists, the team acknowledges in their report that "climate science is not one of our data technical specialties," but that, nonetheless, given their experience in their separate fields of physics, chemistry, geology, meteorology and others, they felt the need to speak out.
Specifically, the report responds to what the group feels is unfounded pulpit pounding by certain NASA bureaus regarding a false damnation of global warming that is seen strictly the result of human sin in the form of carbon dioxide emissions.
continue reading:
Is NASA Wrong About Global Warming? Ex-Employees Speak Out : Environment : Nature World News
 
pixelsmith said:
You can celebrate Earth Day and sit in the dark as long as you want. I am going to use as much energy as I can for one hour in celebration of human achievements.
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So am I Pixel. Every night I'm producing music with a rather serious energy draw, or reading about weird shit or what have you, on the computer. But it's really no problem.

Earth Day came at a time when people started experimenting with other forms of living around the world. Coincidentally, in Denmark, a pioneering effort took place wrt. windmills. It wasn't the government that had the foresight, it was actually rather cult-like new agers doing it privatly. But the government saw just how much energy they could produce.

Now, some years later, wind energy is so enveloped in the national power infra-structure that ALL the power I use outside office hours comes from windmills. And I'm in a big city. Without Earth Day and similar events, we'd be even further up shit creek.

But the private individual can't do the big push, no, you've got to have sway over the national energy infra-structure. It HAS to happen on a high political level. So, there's no reason to let it get to you on the personal level. No single private person can change the world, but if enough people vote for the right politicians, we can do it together.

Btw., it is curious to me why the GOP is so weak on green energy. I simply can't see how it's a political issue to begin with!? I think there is an imperative that goes beyond politics. So why is it so?

Is it because the right is sponsored by and speaks for big oil? One can't help but wonder? Would you say that Big Oil influences the GOP's lethargic stand on green energy Pixel? If so, do you think it influences the democratic process?
 
It is political because windmills are subsidized by the government. If wind and solar were so great they wouldn't need to be subsidized. Both the right and left are in bed with big oil. Jimi what is your definition of "green energy"?
Steam energy, geothermal and electro-magnetics seem to be areas to migrate to in terms of alternate energy resources.
 
pixelsmith said:
It is political because windmills are subsidized by the government. If wind and solar were so great they wouldn't need to be subsidized.
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Fair enough, but oil is certainly also subsidized. National energy structures are indeed always enmeshed in the political process. It takes the right voters to sway that process the right way.

Here's an illustration of oil subsidies: Fossil Fuel Subsidies in the U.S. - The Price of Oil

Obama wants to end the subsidies to oil, Congress doesn't.

Are you always trying to bluff me? If it's bluffing, it's tedious. If not, check your facts.

pixelsmith said:
Jimi what is your definition of "green energy"?
Steam energy, geothermal and electro-magnetics seem to be areas to migrate to in terms of alternate energy resources.
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Those are great sources. I don't care what it is as long as it's replenishable (you can build a future on it) and not polluting (you can build a non-toxic or non-Earth-changing future on it). Iceland is blessed, they've got the geo-thermals, wind and waves.

Nuclear energy is not replenishable and uranium etc. should be reserved for scientific purposes or as a safety ressource, e.g. for getting humanity off a floundering Earth if that ever becomes necessary. Imo.

I'm quite sceptical of damming waterways for energy. It shouldn't be necessary.
 
Jimi H. said:
Fair enough, but oil is certainly also subsidized. National energy structures are indeed always enmeshed in the political process. It takes the right voters to sway that process the right way.

Here's an illustration of oil subsidies: Fossil Fuel Subsidies in the U.S. - The Price of Oil

Obama wants to end the subsidies to oil, Congress doesn't.

Are you always trying to bluff me? If it's bluffing, it's tedious. If not, check your facts.


Those are great sources. I don't care what it is as long as it's replenishable (you can build a future on it) and not polluting (you can build a non-toxic or non-Earth-changing future on it). Iceland is blessed, they've got the geo-thermals, wind and waves.

Nuclear energy is not replenishable and uranium etc. should be reserved for scientific purposes or as a safety ressource, e.g. for getting humanity off a floundering Earth if that ever becomes necessary. Imo.

I'm quite sceptical of damming waterways for energy. It shouldn't be necessary.
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I know oil is subsidized as well. Not a fan of it but I use it everyday. Coal and oil got us out of caves and to where we are today. If there were no subsidies I think we would have more incentive in creating better energy resources. The subsidies tend to put "green" into the pockets of the elite. The global warming/climate change scam was created to do the same.
 
When you think about the effects of global warming hysteria, you might think of higher electricity prices, not people being thrown off their land and having their homes burned down. But that is exactly what’s been happening in the East African country of Uganda, where a British company called New Forests has been seizing land to grow trees and then sell the so-called “carbon credits” for a profit that could reach nearly $2 million per year. According to reports published in the New York Times and Telegraph of London, New Forests is backed by the World Bank and has been using armed troops, with the government’s permission, to forcibly evict over 20,000 poor people from their homes. This certainly gives terrible new meaning to the concept of Green neo-colonialism.
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Those here who support this CAGW scam are complicit in this and should be ashamed.
 
'Global warming' was always far too important to be left to the scientists

[Delingpole] Now that global warming is completely unravelling, I want to elaborate on a point I made a few blogposts back about the role of humanities graduates in this great debate.

On the face of it, their record isn't good. Some of the most influential promulgators of climate nonsense have been arts graduates – among them Bryony Worthington (the FoE activist turned peer responsible for the Climate Change Act), the BBC's Roger Harrabin and a fair few of the Guardian's 2,800-strong Environment Department. I think future historians – looking back on this period of mass hysteria in which so many people were persuaded by and so much expensive, damaging policy was based on the largest confection of lies in junk science history – could put together a reasonably persuasive thesis that it was mainly the fault of scientist-manque arts graduates too easily impressed by men in white lab coats.
...Our gravest mistake in this particular one, I think, has been to put far too much faith in scientists as arbiters of ultimate truth. We have elevated them to the status of priest, almost – as you can hear, for example, in the broadcaster's reverential tone on the BBC every time he or she invokes the word "scientists".
...It's not a science degree you need to negotiate the complexities of this tottering edifice of propaganda, tortured data, lies, misinformation, political wrangling, rampant greed, corporatist manoeuvring and establishment cover-ups

'Global warming' was always far too important to be left to the scientists – Telegraph Blogs
 
nameless I was given this thread to post information on "global warming". What do your silly posts have to do with the thread topic? I will now report you to the mods.
 
Al Gores climate change secret UN influenced mandate is a means to employ guilt free taxation and place an economic strangle hold on the Chinese and other undercutting dragon economies/nations.......
 
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