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Michael Horn & The Billy Meier Contacts

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Do you believe the Billy Meier Contacts and Evidence Are Real?

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Yes, "the key to our future survival", the subtitle used by "he who shall not be named" on his dvd, in itself makes the (fear-oriented) suggestion that matters could go very wrong if we don't heed the warnings from the Meier case. Clever marketing tactic. "He who shall not be named" is also one of the main driving forces of these 'prophecies' which center around a belief system - the teachings.
 
I was wondering, Pluto is not longer a planet. The "ETS" said there was 12 planes and where is the contact notes of that Pluto will not longer be considerate a planet in 2006? Let me guess it will appear few weeks from now dated 1960 and non translate yet. right? ::)
 
Got it in one Manny. Expect it posted on the crooks site in the next few days, this is a prediction even Sean David Morton could get right.
 
Gene Steinberg said:
If you folks are still curious, I'll see what we can do. In the meantime, Firefox is the most compatible browser with everything we do. We run into problems with Safari on occasion, and also with Internet Explorer. Our Webmaster has control of the code on our main sites, but cannot do anything more than minor repairs on the message boards, which are done by others.
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As at 30 Aug, still can't see DB's image analysis. Tried Firefox stable (1.5.x) and Safari on my mac (OS X Tiger), logged into the forums and logged out. I even tried the alternate supplied link Hightail.

"404 - Attachment Not Found" for the forum attachments and nothing on the above "YouSendIt" site.

I'm still looking forward to DB's images as it will help form (for me) further understanding of the Meier "evidence".

If possible could the "zipped" images be sent to the paracast.com webmaster to have them put on the webserver in a standard fashion (i.e. not inside a forum/webapp)?
 
nelmwyn said:
As at 30 Aug, still can't see DB's image analysis. Tried Firefox stable (1.5.x) and Safari on my mac (OS X Tiger), logged into the forums and logged out. I even tried the alternate supplied link Hightail.

"404 - Attachment Not Found" for the forum attachments and nothing on the above "YouSendIt" site.

I'm still looking forward to DB's images as it will help form (for me) further understanding of the Meier "evidence".

If possible could the "zipped" images be sent to the paracast.com webmaster to have them put on the webserver in a standard fashion (i.e. not inside a forum/webapp)?
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Tell you what: Readers, if you want me to post an archive of the photos with a direct link at our site, let me know. Sorry to hear about the problems and all, but it looks like the attachments were de-linked when we updated our message board software in recent weeks.

Why do they do that to us? :)
 
I sure would appreciate a direct link. It's been frustrating to read the discussion about the photos without being able to see them. Thanks!
 
Maybe we give the wrong impression when we keep posting about this case. I think I will explain why I think a lot of us do it. It's because we can't believe that people are still buying this crap, I mean it was probably cute in the 60's/70's but it's 2006 now, all that stuff is fake as it has been proven over and over. The photos (which have been replicated since years ago) doesn't mean anything, just show me a single evidence only one that I can actually say wow this is amazing extraterrestrial and I will believe it. Guess what, there is none, everything is so ridiculous that we find it amazing that the people that make money from this are still trying to convince others that is real when they know how stupid and fake everything is for sure. They will say oh what about the information and this is what I say to them : science fiction was there long before Billy was born and there were a lot better than Billy's too.

Just count and read the excuses for each fraud found in this case it's unbelievable. A 50 bucks DVD is going to save us all right? Now if they travel to the past and future and they said they will come back in 700 years, doesn't that means they already know that in 700 years we are still here and didn't destroyed ourself? Funny story!

Reporter: oh billy this can't be good, we found a model in your house!
Billy: don't worry I just made that model for my children or my children made it...... ???

Reporter: billy all the photos in your books are fake, they are known human beings, and identified garbage can parts!
Billy: the MIB did that (and billy and no-one else noticed for a long time ::)) with all my special alien connections and predictions I couldn't predict this........ ::)
Reporter: oh ok so does that mean that now that you know this, you will refund the money to all the people who bought the book with false pictures?
Billy:........................................................................................ sorry I just got one of those amnesia attacks.

Are these people who believe in this case (beside the one that make money from it of course) serious? geez!

Aspie and Terrax where are you? I enjoy reading your post :)
Hope you both found more information and post them here so we can keep showing people how this crook wants to make money with the people that want to believe in something.
 
Mannyp4 said:
.. The photos (which have been replicated since years ago) doesn't mean anything, just show me a single evidence only one that I can actually say wow this is amazing extraterrestrial and I will believe it. ..
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Evidence of that nature might be rare. I've had an active interest in UFOs for over twenty years now. So far, my best guess is that only four, possibly five, extraterrestrial craft have ended up in the possession of humanity. Three of these have been shot down (two by USA and one by UK). One was probably a crash. The last one might have been shot down by USSR (now Russia). If my deduction is correct, then I suspect that none of the governments of the mentioned nations will be auctioning artifacts any time soon.

Woody
 
Hi Manny,

I decided to take it slow with this topic for a while. I still follow any developments but I wonder if Gene&David's approach of not giving the case any attention is perhaps the best coarse of action since some people like "he who shall not be named" seem to thrive on an agressive discussion and don't listen to you no matter what reasonable arguments you bring up. I've been there a number of times. Maybe these people need therapy, some time on their own in all quietness.
 
I have recently started listening to the Paracast, love the show.

Michael Horn can sound genuine, Ive heard him speak on the "Beyond Science" podcast and then checked out the website.

The photos just dont look right, I think they did bad job at faking the photos.
 
Gene Steinberg said:
OK, I have reposted five photos within the body of the original messages.
You can also find a Zip version containing all the photos at:
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Thanks for that. The zipped version works fine now.
I see now what David was talking about. This will definitely make me go back and review this case.

I do remember during the second interview with MH that David said that one photo being shown false casts bad light on the entire case. I would wonder if (conversely) one photo or contact report being found true would do the reverse and make one really consider....
 
nelmwyn said:
Thanks for that. The zipped version works fine now.
I see now what David was talking about. This will definitely make me go back and review this case.

I do remember during the second interview with MH that David said that one photo being shown false casts bad light on the entire case. I would wonder if (conversely) one photo or contact report being found true would do the reverse and make one really consider....
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Basically, this isn't the only fake photo in the Meier "catalog." There are many others, as shown by the work of Jeff Ritzmann and other investigators.

At this point, the whole affair has a sour stench to us.
 
Only recently I have found this link,these podcasts and posts are facinating....
A true representation of the 'real' argument in these fields.
There is so much disinformation that any real truth gets obscured by the fog...
One is trying to apply a purely unobjective point of view...
P.S. I have listened to the podcasts,and have only read the posts.However the general tone of the conversation in the audible media content,and written text,suggests to me that only one has an 'axe to grind'.
Kind regards and peace to all...
Nog :-)
 
Here's the latest from HWSNBN and he's not flexing an inch.

Toronto UFO Lecture Update

LOS ANGELES, CA - In his upcoming presentation on the Billy Meier UFO case, at the Ontario Science Center in Toronto, Canada (October 21, 7:00 p.m.), for the first time publicly, Michael Horn will put an end to claims that Meier used models to take his famous photos, films and video.

Horn will allow the audience to compare Meier's photographic evidence with the best of the UFO model photos taken by professional model maker and skeptical debunker, Jeff Ritzmann. He will also show why the claims of radio hosts David Biedney and Gene Steinberg, who claimed that Meier deliberately hoaxed an out-of-camera multiple
exposure using an enlarger, are absolutely erroneous and unsubstantiated.

This will be the first time that Horn includes specific examples of actual hoaxed photos, i.e. those taken by a debunker (Ritzmann's photos are hoaxes of real UFO photos of Meier's) to help end the controversy.

After Horn's presentation, there will be a thorough question and answer session, followed by an interactive, audience participation workshop on the practical core teachings in the famous Swiss UFO case.

Tickets available through www.ticketmaster.com.

MH
 
He Who Shall Not Be Named? & The Billy Meier Contacts

He Who Shall Not Be Named? has shown his true colors on this discussion forum. He'll rant to a Toronto audience, blatantly lie and deceive all three people who show up, and collect his few dollars. He has an agenda that has NOTHING to do with any actual truth, and will likely put down Gene, Jeff and myself to no end. He's a coward and a liar, and thrives on negative attention. I know that Jeff is upset with this jerk, but the truth is that I just don't care about anything UselessMan? has to say. The depths of his depravity all on display in this thread, for all to see. Anyone who takes even a casual glance at the Meier crap and wants to believe it, well, they're entitled to believe in anything they want, regardless of how nonsensical it actually is above and below the surface.
 
i suggest a road trip. lol.

i would love to see horns face when david and gene walk in.
 
Michael UselessMan? & The Billy Meier Contacts

TerraX said:
Toronto UFO Lecture Update
LOS ANGELES, CA - In his upcoming presentation on the Billy Meier UFO case, at the Ontario Science Center in Toronto, Canada (October 21, 7:00 p.m.), for the first time publicly, Michael UselessMan? will put an end to claims that Meier used models to take his famous photos, films and video.
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Maybe someone should go to his presentation and show him these;

The Meier case: more conclusive 'smoking gun' proof of deception - The Biggest Secret Forum
http://thebiggestsecretpict.online.fr/ufo/Wedding_Cake_infront_house_B_L+highl.jpg
http://thebiggestsecretpict.online.fr/ufo/garbage_lid_zoom+highl.jpg

The manufactorer;
harcoster | my blog
http://www.harcostar.co.uk/products/unisquare/unisquare.htm
There's the lid again, excuse me, lower part of an alien spacecraft.
 
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