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Michael Horn & The Billy Meier Contacts

Do you believe the Billy Meier Contacts and Evidence Are Real?

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Michael UselessMan? & The Billy Meier Contacts

I cant really say I'm upset with what he claims (as to me it's pretty evident as to alot of others, that we've already buried the case and him), moreover then I'm pissed that he'd be so slimy as to use our names to sell a presentation under false pretense of some sort of one on one interaction. It's blatant false advertsing, but on the plus side it shows he cant hold an audience or sell tickets without that idea.

In short I agree with David, in that he nor the case in general are worth the effort...but it's the use of our names, and my work illegally that I'm pissed about.
 
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Yeah, he keeps saying that the pic of the WCUFO was done like for a challenge, when you clearly stayed it was the project you were working on ( not finished, nothing done for comparition yet), but I guess he needs something to sell the dvd this time and scam people, as he uses helpers in forum or post himself as different person to keep the tale going and keep up the free advertisement.

I posted a link where I found someone that duplicate meier's ufo long ago, was even in black and white pictures, J.R I can't seem to find that link in the other forum, I wanted to post that the duplication has been done since years ago, that one was the first, then "faking it (forteantimes) I believe was second, then you were 3er and iigwest too. So how in hell he keeps saying nobody has duplicated the photos? then when someone shows him all that, he spins again and talks about the testing, when he knows meier has not original to test either as they all are copy of a copy of a copy, I am pretty sure if J.R make a copy of a copy........... It can't be proven fake as meiers.
J.R I hope you find that link with the duplication from years ago.
Terrax good to see you back!
 
Michael UselessMan? & The Billy Meier Contacts

Michael Horn will do anything to make a buck, and his continued policy of fabrication, distortion and outright lies makes the entire Meier case come into crystal-clear definition. It's a financial scam, and really not a whole lot more.

The frustrating part of it for me is that this crap really casts a shadow on the entire area of truly compelling and potentially legitimate UFO research, as well as make it difficult to even discuss this overall topic in any reasonable way.

Jeff is right in stating that Horn has really dug into the mud by having to resort to using our good names and reputations to market his "seminar", but it really makes you wonder about the kind of person who will actually fork over $40 to listen to this moron spout nonsense for a couple of hours. I suppose that it's not shocking, a sucker is born every moment, and with any luck this shmuck will sink into oblivion someday.
 
Michael UselessMan? & The Billy Meier Contacts

I've always found it obvious that it's more than just a scam. Dogmatic thinking has bit him bad it seems to me. I find it even more scarey because I think he's sincere in his beliefs. :o

If anyone wants to use the word, for that car part, that is his name throughout all the forums, is it going to be censored? lol? Was wondering about that.
 
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Mindsky said:
I've always found it obvious that it's more than just a scam. Dogmatic thinking has bit him bad it seems to me. I find it even more scarey because I think he's sincere in his beliefs.
I agree. Eventhough **** is a businessman and has been selling Meier attributes for years, foremost he's a hardcore believer of the case and doesn't take no for an answer as some of you have experienced first hand. Despite his 'scientific' oriented pro Meier speeches he accepts the unsubstantiate-unproven part of the case just as well. The guy even writes songs about the religious ideology of the case. You're simply dealing with a religious, selfish extremist here.
 
Michael UselessMan? & The Billy Meier Contacts

Have a look at one of HWSNBN business adventures and see what he does next.
SIGHTINGS
 
He Who Shall Not Be Named? & The Billy Meier Contacts

LOL...Unbelieveable Tx. So he was all about it, until they claimed Meier's case was fraudulent?? This is absolutely priceless. A twist of fate his new age prophet couldnt see.
 
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jritzmann said:
LOL...Unbelieveable Tx. So he was all about it, until they claimed Meier's case was fraudulent?? This is absolutely priceless. A twist of fate his new age prophet couldnt see.
Hi Jeff. I'm not sure if Dames' opinion on the Meier case was decisive for HWSNBN to cut all ties but knowing the little guy surely he was somewhat offended. What I do find fascinating about the article is that a bunch of New Age business sharks fight with eachother over a dead fish. Clearly, the original incentive was to make a buck and HWSNBN didn't have a problem with Dames' track record at the beginning of the project. When the deal got bad, the gloves came off..(And Horn did have to testify in court.)
 
He Who Shall Not Be Named? & The Billy Meier Contacts

Well I've been informed that Horn has used my photos during the "
lecture" however, he negated to use anything but the very far shots. In essence he compared the far shots I took to Meier's close shots. LOL...he was too afraid to use the full on disc shot showing structure, so he did his "comparison" on distant shots only.

Yet another wuzzy move in kind with using our names to sell his tickets. Thats ok, my turn now.
 
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FYI. This thread is scrutinized by the Billy Meier clones. Gives them something to talk about I suppose. Recently I had the pleasure of being deemed a "robot" by these people because of my criticism of the Meier case. These same people seem totally unaware that Meier and his alleged ET contacts are experts in mudslinging themselves and label many persons in no uncertain and downright slanderous terms. Law of cause and effect? Well, seemingly that's a law of nature for everyone who's not a supporter of "prophet Meier".
But you go ahead Jeff with your reply to Horn's theatrics. Heh, I recall that another contactee called Horn a "Meier Mini-me" after receiving flak from both Meier and Horn. What goes around comes around...
 
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TX- I saw that they had actually contemplated that you were an actual robot. Of course we're talking about the same group that had one poster say he thought Cris Angel was in league with real spirits and possibly other minions. :-

I've come around to the idea that David has, that Horn has a serious mental issue, that surpasses his greed for popularity and cashflow within the case. He's what I've always deemed a "hanger-on", who cannot find out where he fits in life, career, etc...and gravitates to the next wacked out thing he can promote to separate suckers from their cash.

This is the reason he's so venomous. This is the absolute idiot who calls Biedny a "wanna be" in terms of imaging. However Horn proves with every word he says, that he knows as much as my houseplants do about imaging. He'd rather consult the team of a meteorologist and a "Quack" for his imaging questions...and believe anything they put forth, before going to an expert like Biedny. The Quack and the weatherman tell him what he wants to hear.

In short I have set the groundwork to finally put such issues that we've all dealt with to rest once and for all, for the curious public who may not be as informed as they should be. All facts fully supported by duplicatable data and professionals fully quoted and not edited. Since Horn has ignored my copyrights and permissions, I see no reason not to have full use of any photo out there pertaining to the case...as Horn would say "which has been made available". Fine, theyre all available to me too. My use falls under the fair use act, as editorial use, and will be free for everyone (unlike Horn's "pay for the truth" seminars and books/DVDs)

The idea that we sit and do nothing means to me that we let such a cancer spread across UFO study, and effectually say it's "ok" to do whats been done.
 
He Who Shall Not Be Named? & The Billy Meier Contacts

In the end, the Meier case is simply not very interesting, certainly not to anyone involved in actually trying to understand the reality of the UFO situation. I'm hesitant to engage Horn in any way, he really seems to get off on negativity, or for that matter, attention of ANY kind. VERY few people take this case seriously, so engaging them in either a negative or positive fashion doesn't really seem very productive. The kind of folks who believe in those silly pictures or inane stories, well, there simply not of interest to me anyway. They're buying into a cult, and by definition, logic and deductive reasoning are simply not priorities for them. As far as I'm concerned, people can - and will - believe in all sorts of nonsense. Should we care? If they are not taken seriously by the vast majority, should we try to make them see the light of reason? Nah, let them play with their pie plates, cakes, fantasies and fairy tales. We're busy studying the stuff that actually might provide some deeper understanding.
 
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Well to say ?us? investigators, who see truth within the Billy material are stupid and being ?stumped? is quite interesting.
Yes, Mr. Ritzmann I was at Michael's Toronto Canada presentation/workshop and he did use many of your pictures, as I can remember, close and far shots. This was followed by showing the model that you used which was a little smaller than your hand. This is only a small realization.
The overwhelming complexity of this case beyond the pictures and videos is obvious. I truly am happy that everyone walks away from this information differently, that is everyone's right. Some walk away from the information with predetermined thoughts and courses of action without even thoroughly studying the INFORMATION. Some like (TX) bashing everyone that believes the information, and uses these peoples personal ?being? to discredit their ?personal? beliefs. Some feed of off the rage (TX) they create within others and use this rage for their own satisfaction and agenda. Some (TX) only care that others believe what ?they? do and wish to discredit everything else at all cost, even if it means bashing others ?personal? beliefs for their own gain.
Others come away from this information with hope. Hope that there is a better way and that as a species we can find an outcome that doesn't involve conflict, hate, rage, violence, and utter destruction. Destruction of our planet and EVERYTHING held with-in. This information is nothing to fear, it speaks of truth's ?as I see it? beyond the PHYSICAL and video evidence.
We are all entitled to come to our own conclusions on this subject. Just because one can find flaws within ?small? pieces of Billy's information does not mean as a whole it is not real. If a person is not perfect does that make him less of a person? This is a very crude and simple comparison?there are things within everything ?I believe? that make no sense and I can not understand or believe completely yet, that doesn't mean I just give up and all out deny these subjects validity and existence. I find it important to see and realize the complexity of this case ?as I see it?. To begin with lets got through the professions Billy would need to have mastered, to complete his hoax: (Just to note I am not an expert in any of these fields and can not even begin to understand their associating knowledge-base and parts)
Professional photographer, which includes the ability to doctor photos and Everything included 30 years ago, which begs the question how did he do it when to this day, no one has the same. Professional model maker, Ritzmann I can imagine you can testify to the complexity and skill needed to create authentic UFO models. Professional sound analyzer and creator?it has been proven by some experts in this area that no one could duplicate this ?sound? in the 70?s. Only today with the most advanced and expensive sound technology could these noises be duplicated. Professional metal smelter and mineral expert?it has been proven by a very prominent and brilliant scientist that there is no way even TODAY that anyone on earth could duplicate these samples. Professional film developer and analyzer (? Again I am not sure what they would call someone in this profession maybe a director) who can create videos that include his above mentioned sounds as well as a professional model that has blinking lights on it, which is viewed ?up-close? and MOVING. This type of video is truly worthy off a Hollywood movie. One would need many millions of dollars worth of equipment to even come close to producing something the same. Not to mention he did it in the 70's (?) and did not have any of today's equipment and technology. MAN sound like Billy should work for Hollywood; he has a lot of the same attributes and abilities? Professional and or maybe even, a novice chemist?the ability to create acid burned hand prints into a hood of a car?I am not sure if anyone has truly analyzed these prints but to multiple observers there is great detail, and they seem to have been created with acids of some sort. I guess in Billy's expertise he knows what acid was used? Professional writer and theorist?this is a very interesting subject and is one of the most important. As I can recall, Billy does not posses an education as it could be remotely compared to a high school education today. Yet, in his genius he acquired the ability to fake thousands (24 thousand pages give or take) UPON thousands of pages of information that is NUMBERED BY PARAGRAPH and contains many truths and realizations that a conscious reader can see and understand. Which includes very little error and is incredibly complex and thorough.
The information also adds a couple of other strokes of genius to Billy's so called lie. In his information he predicts many events that have occurred and are possibly going to occur. Back in the ?70or80??, some American researchers(including Wendelle stevens) went to Switzerland to find out the truth of this case?.TO GO HEAD FIRST INTO THE SITUATION AND COME OUT WITH A THOROUGH PERSONAL INVESTIGATION, which brought them to their own personal beliefs within the case; this in itself gave these investigators the opportunity to hear first hand predictions that would occur in the future. These predictions eventually came TRUE and helped these people see the validity of the information, it is too bad that most of the information is still in German and still holds ?a lot? of information for us English speaking folk to one day ponder.

This opens another avenue?why this great hoaxer would not push his information to the breaking point (like so many before) and allow the all out exploitation and monopoly of every market to acquire the largest and most profitable audiences. No, in his brilliancy he withholds the information and does not push to profit from it. He does not allow the unorthodox and personally bios opinions of those who translate his information. He does not allow just anyone to take his information and distribute to profit from, NO he's just bored and has created this whole HUGE hoax just to let it out to the masses as it will and to regulate it at every corner stunting any chance of ever becoming rich from it. In my opinion sounds like he might just be telling the truth and for those that think he is a rich man because of it??he declined a movie deal worth a MILLION dollars!! For the rest of us who push this case so others can continue to see the TRUTH, beyond the contortion and lies others like to add. MONEY makes this world go round, we all have to eat, sleep, live, and PAY bills. Just because some are making money from this means just that. WE ALL LIVE IN A SOCIETY BASED ON MONEY THAT DICTATES WHAT WE CAN AND CANT DO. So cry and cry and cry, I have already spent many thousands of dollars worth of my time on this case and am not asking for PAYBACK the information is what is of value here, it is worth all the money in the WORLD. Can we not see that people should see and become aware to what is happening within this subject? As a self proclaimed enthusiast and researcher of information concerning ET/UFO?S, Billy's information and the likes is the best I have ever seen and I have searched and sifted through websites and books for YEARS.
There are truly many ?many? more things I could add to this list to zero in on this hoaxer and his cohorts. Yet that is the point, not only has no one ?openly? and ?truthfully? come forward publicly to say they helped or saw his hoax, the opposite is actually the case; more and more people have flocked to Switzerland to see what is happening first hand. There are reports of people seeing and hearing about this case and setting up ?camp? around Billy's farm, to see what is happening for ?themselves? which eventually led to some actually taking pictures of ships flying around the area. Not to mention if I am correct, hundreds of other people over the years who have witnessed things around his farm.
This in reality could have been going on for as long as people knew of the case. Logically, many people are around Billy ?all the time? yet, no one has seen him drag his over 20-foot in diameter ?stunningly? detailed model out of its hanger (that's right next to his Hollywood movie/sound/video studio) and hoist it up in the air and create a Hollywood movie snippet and detailed pictures.
With some 40 years of public disclosure he has not been found out. His experiences have been openly discussed, and scrutinized more than believed, and yet they still hold together. Man what a bored old, one armed farmer, with no public education, and people swarming all around him...NO wonder the Swiss government has stated they have recorded hundreds of unidentified flying objects over his farm and surrounding area. No wonder people try to KILL him continuously. No wonder people all over the world believe what he is saying. No wonder I sit hear now defending this case and the way I see it. No wonder Billy's information is BY NO MEANS RELIGIOUS and only wishes that EACH person is "themselves" free of external nonsense, As well as peaceful, happy, TRUTHFUL, helping, intelligent, logic, mostly courteous, and most of all FREE. FREE to be oneself with no bounds and every "one" taking responsibility for "One?s" actions. In my opinion this sounds like a VERY peaceful and logical way to live. NO WONDER IT IS ALL FAKE AND A LIE, I should have seen it much earlier!!!!!

So I conclude with asking what is so wrong with this information. What has Billy done that upsets the UFO community so badly. Is there something I am missing, is there some stroke of genius that I forgot to take away from his material. Is there some alternative motive that is to suppress us all and turn this whole thing against us in some ingenious way? WHAT IS IT!! I truly would like to know!!

Yet, I hope that all who can and are qualified to do so, attack this evidence as much as humanly possible. GO to Switzerland analyze things and continue to push to try and recreate his material. In this way the truth can and will be set free, for all the people that cant even get past the title of the material to see.
The continuing examination of this material has only solidified my belief in the material and what Billy is saying. So to the debunkers, good work, you have helped me see the truth in this material that much clearer.
Yet please don't give up, because others need to see and be aware of this case if they believe or not. WE all are free to be free and should be able to come to a conclusion for ?ourselves? by ?ourselves? without being subjected to nonsense that others like to use to try and disqualify the obvious.

I conclude by saying good bye, I am going back to my peaceful life, that is filled with lies and deceit as Billy has shown me? Lies that have made me a better person and have helped me see that I am the best thing I have. Lies that have opened my eye to what lies within and is ?ME? ?MYSELF?, bound by no one else's words, thoughts, actions, only ?MY OWN?.

I will continue to defend this case to my last breath and only ask for respect, and courteous behavior toward what others think and believe.
When you ?gang up? on our representatives what do you expect. Do you think they will just sit back and take your abuse? I like to think there is cause and effect at plat, you show a little respect and maybe others will do the same in return.

I am just one person who walked into this subject like everyone else!! I am no one special and don't live an extravagant and all perfect life yet, I am alive and can see as I wish to see.
Debunkers?Debunk the information and Billy if you can, don't just talk the talk and not walk the walk, ?personally? I am getting quite sick of your continuing nonsense.

Phil B.
 
He Who Shall Not Be Named™ & The Billy Meier Contacts

Phil B,

You can believe anything you want. Anyone interested in doing the minimal amount of research can come up with a huge amount of factual information about Billy Meier and his "evidence", and none of it makes a reasonable case for his claims, or the idea that there is any paranormal aspect to this chazarai. The official US rep has shown his true colors in these forums, as well as other public discussion boards devoted to these topics. Read this whole thread, from beginning to end. It's all right there. Your guy has absolutely no credibility in any venue outside of a group of Meier fans. This is a fact, regardless of your perception. There are folks who still believe the Earth is flat. Go figga.

The fact that Meier claims that ALL other potential UFO sightings and reported contact episodes are patently false, speaks volumes, and has earned Meier the ire of anyone involved in serious research. NONE of the photographic offerings are even vaguely believable, and while I appreciate your candor in stating that you are not a photographic professional, the fact is that I <b>am</b> a recognized image processing and digital graphics expert, and I can confidently say that ALL of the Meier pictures I've seen, ALL OF THEM, are obviously fabricated.

That's all I personally need to consider. Believe whatever you like, that's your right.

But please don't try to tell ME what to believe. I'd much rather KNOW and UNDERSTAND than BELIEVE. I don't need anyone - farmer, carpenter, psychotic media shill, priest, politican - to tell me what the nature of the world is all about. I don't need a dogmatic third party to instruct me in the meaning of life. Careful consideration, awareness and a desire to truly learn how things work guide my way. My brain and intellect are honed, eyes well trained, and my soul is bright and intact. Your own mileage may vary. You're getting sick of these words? Change the frikkin channel. No one ordered you to come here and read a damned thing. You ever hear of tolerance? Do I show up on the Figu boards and tell you what to believe? Cop this, I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU BELIEVE. Get over it. Grow up. You say that Billy preaches peace? Then start practicing it, Phil, or I might think you're a hypocrite. You demand respect? Respect is something that must be earned, or have you never learned this simple fact of life? You have no credit in my bank. You are in no position to demand ANYTHING from me. Grok?

And just be aware that He Who Shall Not Be Named™ has publicly stated that the UFO component of Meier's claims is "not important" in the overall scheme of his philosophical indoctrination, so why bother those of us looking into legitimate, credible sightings? Have a picnic, love each other, and don't eat the daisies. You folks have fun now, and don't drink and drive.

And that's the extent of the interaction you'll get from me on these forums. Enjoy your stay.

dB
 
He Who Shall Not Be Named? & The Billy Meier Contacts

Phil,
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All the Best,
Jeff
 
He Who Shall Not Be Named? & The Billy Meier Contacts

Well said. Now they are just going to start posting all over the net for publicity, they don't care if we believe or not, it must be him with other nicks or helpers sent by him to keep this crap alive (not money for tv publicity huh). I wonder - - if J.R. didn't make any photos - - would there be any material for the presentation? or to update his site? ::)

Why do they keep showing J.R.'s unfinished WCUFO photo? Did they mention in the presentation that this photo was just posted as an unfinished project on a online forum? That it wasn't finished to be compared yet? that it was only posted so other forum members could see how was it going? I can assure you 100% that he didn't mention this.

Again, the aliens told Meier they are coming back in 700 years right? So humans will not destroy themselves or WW3 will not happen in grand scale so why so much crap with predictions, they can go to the future right?

ok let me guess, predictions can change you said right? but they already said they are coming back, coming back to what? ahh they know we will be still here ;D

He Who Shall Not Be Named said this case is not about the photos but then goes to all online forums to talk about them and say that they can't be duplicated ::) (when in fact they have been duplicated since years ago) does this sound right?

Note: did they show the pictures of the dinosour (painting), laser gun (toy) and san francisco earthquake (magazine) in the presentation? NO WAY JOSE!!! they are not that stupid.
 
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nowsdatym said:
Some like (TX) bashing everyone that believes the information, and uses these peoples personal ?being? to discredit their ?personal? beliefs. Some feed of off the rage (TX) they create within others and use this rage for their own satisfaction and agenda. Some (TX) only care that others believe what ?they? do and wish to discredit everything else at all cost, even if it means bashing others ?personal? beliefs for their own gain.
Others come away from this information with hope.
You seem to be totally unaware of the enormous ammount of bashing done by Meier and his alleged ETs. Did you actually read the pages? Many people were condemned as being liars, frauds, cheaters, schizophrenic or delusional without any form of legal process. That's compassionate behavior? Is that the truth? I don't think so Phil. And when you receive some flak in return you're offended, totally oblivious as to how that originated?
If you "believe" in the Meier information, that is your right. I consider that freedom of religion. However if you come to the ufo community and demand the case is all about truth and fact then you can expect resistance. Photographs, films and samples don't remotely proof beyond a doubt that every claim Meier made is factual. Get that into your thick skull. A couple of photographs is no ultimate evidence for Meier's claims that he is the reincarnated spirit of Jesus Christ and Mohammed, to name a few. Such claims are beyond ridiculous. If you want to believe that, just say that you believe that. Fact has nothing to do with it.
 
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I am greatful that we can all be civil and peaceful on this forum. I didn't know respect was so easily taken away when you dont know me or care to, to begin with. Sounds like your guys approach to looking at the information and its believers NO TOLERANCE and or RESPECT. Some of the earlier post by you guys were actually quite tasteful? Though they were "indirectly" aimed at me, someone you have never met and will never know.
I thought I was quite respectful, I didn't openly bash anyone I didnt think openly deserved it? I only stated my "personal opinion" and I get bashed because of it....I dont expect less and or care.....call me a hypocrite, I will cry all night coming from you guess.
The top post had "The Billy Meier contacts" in it and I figured I would reply as I saw fit...since some people think they now me "so well" even before they meet me.
I am thrilled to be part of such a one sided discussion group. Hope it lasts longer than some of the others who spoke against the grandmasters. Look forward to hearing more of your guises grand wisdom!! Hope it is as interesting as it has been so far.. Man its good to know others think they know me better than I know myself, for a second I thought I had joined a cult and was just a monkey swinging on a tree. Its good that others can help me see this isnt the case, no matter how bad they try!!!
Thanks guys

I am just an independent person who sees TRUTH within the info, and am bound by no-one but "MYSELF"!!!

Phil B.
 
He Who Shall Not Be Named? & The Billy Meier Contacts

You're free to believe what you want Phil, and so is the other person. That's democracy and freedom of thought. But, what do you in essence want out of the Billy Meier contacts? There's where your "problems" originate. Think about it.
 
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Recently I had a discussion with a person supporting the Meier case on another forum and I offered him the following theory on Meier's "weddingcake" UFO and more specificly the 'spheres' on the alleged craft. I appreciate any feedback in order to see if my theory is flawed or incomplete.

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You were the one hinting towards the spheres on the WC UFO
providing some sort of authenticity. While you whisk my
opinion away as irrelevant without going into any detail, let
me explain my position.

As you know very well the alleged WC UFO photographed by
Billy Meier has many spherical objects. The spheres themselves
reflect the background and mirror it. No argument so far I
presume? Lets have a look at the spheres in detail.
http://thebiggestsecretpict.online.fr/ufo/weddingcake_spheres_reflection.jpg

What's unusual here JP? I admit that the resolution is poor and
subsequently hampers any direct conclusions, however the
poor resolution is a hint in itself. Within the spheres we see a
reflection. The lower half of the spheres reflects the 'rim' of
the WC UFO. The upper half reflects the scenery beyond the
rim. No argument so far I presume?

What does the upper half of the spheres reflect JP?
http://thebiggestsecretpict.online.fr/ufo/Wedding_Cake_C_spheres.jpg
To be honest and objective I can't make it out clearly. There is a
rounded figure of some sort, if I didn't know any better it looks like
someones head but like I stated before, it's inconclusive.
What it doesn't show is an angular structure like a house or any
other construction which do tend to show up in the reflection of
spheres provided they are centered;
http://thebiggestsecretpict.online.fr/ufo/sphere_cropped_L.jpg
There is an exception I think which also ties in with the poor resolution
of the spheres which I mentioned in the paragraph above.

On Deardorff's site and analysis of the WC UFO (where you also
contributed) a diagram is shown which shows the position of the
photographer and the position of the alleged UFO.
The Wedding Cake UFOs
While Deardorff isn't sure what kind of diameter the UFO has the
general consensus is that we are dealing here with a diameter of
3.5 meters although nontheless 4 types with different diameters
are mentioned as being possible!

Deardorff states that Meier had his back to the carriage house.
Let me ask you a sincere question. Why isn't the house the most
dominant figure in the reflection of the spheres? Meier is standing
relatively close to it, right? If you scroll down to fig 4. on
Deardorff's site you'll notice that the carriage house is a fairly
high structure. It should have dominated the reflection in the
spheres, and it doesn't.
http://thebiggestsecretpict.online.fr/ufo/Wedding_Cake_C_spheres.jpg
There are plenty of open spaces in the reflection of the spheres
as you can see.

Even high structures can be reasonably reflected back within the
spheres and in the next picture the photographer is some distance
away from the houses in the background.
http://thebiggestsecretpict.online.fr/ufo/purple_sphere_mirror.jpg
Why don't we see that in the spheres of the alleged UFO taken by
Meier?

There is a very reasonable and plausible explanation for that and
it also addresses the poor resolution in the spheres and the limited
background.

SIZE MATTERS!

The bigger the sphere, the more resolution and detail of background.
The smaller the sphere, the less resolution and detail of background.
It's simply about size.

Have a look at the next picture.
http://thebiggestsecretpict.online.fr/ufo/magicalgarden_com_globegroup.jpg
The big spheres in the picture offer more detail then the smaller ones.
The tiny sphere in the middle and on the foreground offers practically
no detail. You have your answer right there.

You and Deardorff claim Meier's WC UFO is a large craft. That would
mean the spheres also should be of considerable size. If so, then
they should offer some detail, which they don't!
Most plausible explanation? The spheres are tiny. Less then an inch
wide. That in turn would mean the alleged UFO isn't as large as
Deardorff and you claim it to be. In fact, it supports the notion that
Meier's UFO is a model and a fake.

Now JP, please feel free to share this with others. I also await your
reply and hopefully you can offer reasonable and logical counter
arguments.

Regards,
TerraX
 
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