Questions for Jesse Ventura!

[dyingsun]

I haven't read it, I know Venturas background in the last couple of years though. When I think of wrestling, I think of Hogan, 'the ultimate Warrior'. and the Undertaker. Hogan seemed too broad to miss.

 

[Kieran]

I agree with others here should be a good listen. I think some of what he does claim has some merit. 9/11 and some other stuff not in my honest opinion, but JFK how skeptics, can deny there was a second shooter, that day, is beyond me.

Skeptics, are all about critical thinking, when it comes to conspiracy theories, but Angel and Lance, as skeptics, be real and true ok. Explain to me this, as for me here this is the "Smoking Gun" evidence for there being a second shooter that day in Dallas.

If the Texas Book Despository, was back behind the presidents motorcade, at the time of the shooting, how would it be possible that Lee Harvey Oswald could have pulled of a shoot were it hit President Kennedy, in the right side of his skull. Do skeptics believe fantasy is possible, because if you deny this is what happened, then you must believe in the magic bullet theory.

I actually think Both Kennedy's were killed by higher ups in the United States government and intelligent agencies, when Bobby Kennedy was shot, the alleged killer gun only could hold six to eight bullets, eleven bullets were found I believe at the scene.

 

[Gene Steinberg]

I want you folks to listen to Jesse Ventura's description of how he tested the possibility that Oswald could have made those shots. As he'll explain on the episode he recorded for The Paracast, he's an Expert, Oswald was a Marksman (barely). That makes Ventura two steps higher on the shooter scale, so to speak.

 

[Angel of Ioren]

I agree with others here should be a good listen. I think some of what he does claim has some merit. 9/11 and some other stuff not in my honest opinion, but JFK how skeptics, can deny there was a second shooter, that day, is beyond me.

Skeptics, are all about critical thinking, when it comes to conspiracy theories, but Angel and Lance, as skeptics, be real and true ok. Explain to me this, as for me here this is the "Smoking Gun" evidence for there being a second shooter that day in Dallas.

If the Texas Book Despository, was back behind the presidents motorcade, at the time of the shooting, how would it be possible that Lee Harvey Oswald could have pulled of a shoot were it hit President Kennedy, in the right side of his skull. Do skeptics believe fantasy is possible, because if you deny this is what happened, then you must believe in the magic bullet theory.

I actually think Both Kennedy's were killed by higher ups in the United States government and intelligent agencies, when Bobby Kennedy was shot, the alleged killer gun only could hold six to eight bullets, eleven bullets were found I believe at the scene.

I don't know enough about the Kennedy assassination to really make a valid comment, sorry. I've heard many explanations as to who and how he was killed and many make sense. I've heard Jesse Ventura say that he has tried to take three shots in the amount of time it took Oswald to make the shot, and he could not do it.

Then I see this video explanation from Penn and Teller's Bullshit that show the gun can be indeed cocked and fired three time in less than 8 seconds, but they don't use any live rounds for the test, so that probably makes a difference, but I have never fired a gun in my life so I don't know.

In the end, all I know is that the United States lost what many consider a great leader that day, regardless of who did it.
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[OceansLost]

question number 1, how do I become such a badd ass like yourself sir? question 2 How do you deal with people who havent studyed a subject for as long as yourself telling you that your wrong, how do you keep your cool any advice? sorry for bad spelling on ps3

 

[Slim Shady]

Question 1.
Do you believe that alien probing is against the bill of human rights?
Question 2.
What is your take on Harry Potter and the Deadly Hollows pt 2 ?
Question 3.
Can you send a autographed T-Shirt to every member of the paracast community ?
Question 4.
Do you love me more that i love you?
Question 5.
Can i lick your DNA ?

=D

 

[Gene Steinberg]

Once again, the show's already done.

 

[Gene Steinberg]

You have to realize that it's not the first shot, but the subsequent shots within a few seconds that present the dilemma.

 

[Kieran]

I don't know enough about the Kennedy assassination to really make a valid comment, sorry. I've heard many explanations as to who and how he was killed and many make sense. I've heard Jesse Ventura say that he has tried to take three shots in the amount of time it took Oswald to make the shot, and he could not do it.

Then I see this video explanation from Penn and Teller's Bullshit that show the gun can be indeed cocked and fired three time in less than 8 seconds, but they don't use any live rounds for the test, so that probably makes a difference, but I have never fired a gun in my life so I don't know.

In the end, all I know is that the United States lost what many consider a great leader that day, regardless of who did it.
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Thank's for the reply.

Angel, there is know independent-neutral observer present, that could confirm for me, that this is the same type of responsive rifle, that Lee Harvey Oswald used that day in Dallas, allegedly.

It's an interesting demonstration, however two obvious problems, I noticed ok.

The first obvious problem, is the fact Penn is doing this demonstration in a standing position, and was looking forward straight on ahead of himself.

I believe Oswald, was sitting on a cardbox box, or was in a crouched position, not standing up when it alleged he fired at Kennedy!

Oswald was looking out the right side of the window, allegedly, this small window was on the 6th floor of the Texas Book Despository, now Penn did not move his head, or body movement, to the left or right whatsoever in that demonstration!!

The second obvious problem. Is that Penn is aiming at nothing at'all, know moving target is observed in his demonstration. Firing randomly without really looking, to be honest, would be the complete opposite, of what a person trying to kill someone would do. Penn time me.. Aim, Fire' lol It silly stuff that only Skeptics would fall for.

Seriously, your either a complete idiot, or just deny for the sake of it, not saying your an idiot Angel, least you haven't given what you really think happened.

But people like Lance know offence buddy, my little girl or boy, if i showed them could tell from the Zapruder video, Kennedy died mostly likely from the second bullet, that hit him on the right side part of his head!

Lance your smarter enough to realise, I hope here.

Oswald, it alleged aimed his rifle, and was looking down the sight, in a South East or West direction. The presidents motorcade had just passed the Texas Book despositoy, all the bullets Oswald had, he let go, and he fired. It obvious these bullets would hit in places in front of the Texas Book Despository only.

Now there is prove, the first bullet hit President Kennedy from behind, but there is no way in hell a bullet fired by Oswald from behind, could have hit Kennedy, on the right side of his head, while the motorcade was still moving. It fantasy.

Give me a good Explanation how that could have happened. I''m willing to chance my mind!

 

[Angel of Ioren]

Seriously, your either a complete idiot, or just deny for the sake of it, not saying your an idiot Angel, least you haven't given what you really think happened.

I can definitely say that I am not a complete idiot.

So are you saying that Oswald did shoot at the president and was part of the assassination? Also, you do agree that the gun can be cocked and fired multiple times. Regardless of what Penn is aiming at, the allegation is that it is not possible that the gun can do that. Obviously it is possible, so where are the numbers coming from that it is not possible. Why would anyone try to say otherwise? That raises some questions. If it was not possible that the gun could fire as quickly as the bullets hit the president, then I would say that a lone gunman was completely impossible. However, as demonstrated, the gun can fire faster than the bullets were fired that day. That should at least give you pause that Oswald could have acted alone. right? You can't deny that people putting the theory forward are outright lying about how fast the gun can fire and that should bother you somewhat.

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Now there is prove, the first bullet hit President Kennedy from behind, but there is no way in hell a bullet fired by Oswald from behind, could have hit Kennedy, on the right side of his head, while the motorcade was still moving. It fantasy.

The video explains that with, you know, physics.

 

[Kieran]

I can definitely say that I am not a complete idiot.

So are you saying that Oswald did shoot at the president and was part of the assassination? Also, you do agree that the gun can be cocked and fired multiple times. Regardless of what Penn is aiming at, the allegation is that it is not possible that the gun can do that. Obviously it is possible, so where are the numbers coming from that it is not possible. Why would anyone try to say otherwise? That raises some questions. If it was not possible that the gun could fire as quickly as the bullets hit the president, then I would say that a lone gunman was completely impossible. However, as demonstrated, the gun can fire faster than the bullets were fired that day. That should at least give you pause that Oswald could have acted alone. right? You can't deny that people putting the theory forward are outright lying about how fast the gun can fire and that should bother you somewhat.

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The video explains that with, you know, physics.

I have no problem with Oswald been one of the shooters that day. The first time, Kennedy was hit, that bullet in my opinion came from behind.

Angel. Oswald, it has been claimed fired, and hit Kennedy, as he traveled along in a moving vehicle. While it not impossible, perhaps, he hit Kennedy perfectly two times, out of three, the Zapruder film, for me however is very revealing. It show's President Kennedy, move and jerk, to the right shoulder of his wife Jackie, as when, he is hit the second time.

I would expect to see a different kind of movement of his head, more forward, to the right, if the second bullet, had indeed traveled through the back, or left side of his skull, and then exited out at the right side of his skull.

The trajectory of fatal second bullet to me, came from the right, and slightly to the north. Oswald it alleged fired at Kennedy from a South- West Direction (not possible he could have hit Kennedy from were he was stationed and set up) Just notice Kennedy's body and head movement, when he is hit first, then notice his body and head movement, when he is hit the second time!!

The conspiracy for me, is the fact the weapon, he used is a pile of crap, and to do in the time suggested by Skeptics, he wouldn't really be aiming properly, in that amount of time, yet still he pulled of two perfect shot's to the head.. It's the way Kennedy, head and body reacted, to the second shot, has me questioning, the official version of events that day.

A melon is a Soft Fruit, not the same as a Human Brain. Plus Guys, Sorry Angel. Watch that video again. Did you not notice the melon had a large impact hole in the front, less damage to the right, the bullet Teller fired imploded more in the front lol. Kennedy head imploded Right Side/ No impact from behind is seen on the Zapruder film.

 

[trainedobserver]

Didn't the scope on the Mannlicher-Carcano have to be shimmed just so that the FBI could sight the thing? Aside from that, the whole "magic bullet" theory strains my credulity to the breaking point.

 

[Angel of Ioren]

I have no problem with Oswald been one of the shooters that day. The first time, Kennedy was hit, that bullet in my opinion came from behind.

Angel. Oswald, it has been claimed fired, and hit Kennedy, as he traveled along in a moving vehicle. While it not impossible, perhaps, he hit Kennedy perfectly two times, out of three, the Zapruder film, for me however is very revealing. It show's President Kennedy, move and jerk, to the right shoulder of his wife Jackie, as when, he is hit the second time.

I would expect to see a different kind of movement of his head, more forward, to the right, if the second bullet, had indeed traveled through the back, or left side of his skull, and then exited out at the right side of his skull.

The trajectory of fatal second bullet to me, came from the right, and slightly to the north. Oswald it alleged fired at Kennedy from a South- West Direction (not possible he could have hit Kennedy from were he was stationed and set up) Just notice Kennedy's body and head movement, when he is hit first, then notice his body and head movement, when he is hit the second time!!

The conspiracy for me, is the fact the weapon, he used is a pile of crap, and to do in the time suggested by Skeptics, he wouldn't really be aiming properly, in that amount of time, yet still he pulled of two perfect shot's to the head.. It's the way Kennedy, head and body reacted, to the second shot, has me questioning, the official version of events that day.

A melon is a Soft Fruit, not the same as a Human Brain. Plus Guys, Sorry Angel. Watch that video again. Did you not notice the melon had a large impact hole in the front, less damage to the right, the bullet Teller fired imploded more in the front lol. Kennedy head imploded Right Side/ No impact from behind is seen on the Zapruder film.

I have no stake in this. I'm just trying to look at it objectively.

 

[Kieran]

I have no stake in this. I'm just trying to look at it objectively.

Fair enough, but just because your a skeptic, doesn't mean you should just ignore the evidence.

 

[Angel of Ioren]

Fair enough, but just because your a skeptic, doesn't mean you should just ignore the evidence.

Bloody hell, I am fed up of the whole skeptic Vs whatever BS. I don't care what other people think. I form my own opinions. Okay?

 

[Kieran]

Bloody hell, I am fed up of the whole skeptic Vs whatever BS. I don't care what other people think. I form my own opinions. Okay?

Did you have your breakfast this morning lol?

 

[Angel of Ioren]

Did you have your breakfast this morning lol?

Yes, it's just frustrating that you seem to think that I lean towards something just because I have some sort of allegiance. I don't. If I state something, it's because I am looking at it objectively. If I am proven wrong, I will gladly admit it.

 

[pixelsmith]

Thankfully we have a couple of comedians to set the record straight. whatever...

Penn and Teller are a couple of idiots.

 

[Angel of Ioren]

Thankfully we have a couple of comedians to set the record straight. whatever...

Penn and Teller are a couple of idiots.

They're actually quite intelligent. I can turn it around and say I'm glad we have a former professional wrestler to set us straight. In the end, interesting points can be made on both sides of the argument. By the way, that comment was just used to prove a point. Jesse Ventura came off as well spoken and he has accomplished quite a bit in his life, regardless of whether I agree with him or not on some of his theories.

Pixelsmith, are you denying that they didn't show it is possible to cock and pull the trigger 3 times in less than six seconds? Now, that doesn't mean it's possible to hit the target like Oswald allegedly did. However, using the argument that the gun is incapable of doing it is invalid. Right? That's what they are saying. If the argument is no longer valid, it should be thrown out. That the difficulty of the shot was beyond the capabilities of the shooter is a much better argument, regardless of what really happened.

 

[pixelsmith]

They're actually quite intelligent. I can turn it around and say I'm glad we have a former professional wrestler to set us straight. In the end, interesting points can be made on both sides of the argument. By the way, that comment was just used to prove a point. Jesse Ventura came off as well spoken and he has accomplished quite a bit in his life, regardless of whether I agree with him or not on some of his theories.

Pixelsmith, are you denying that they didn't show it is possible to cock and pull the trigger 3 times in less than six seconds? Now, that doesn't mean it's possible to hit the target like Oswald allegedly did. However, using the argument that the gun is incapable of doing it is invalid. Right? That's what they are saying. If the argument is no longer valid, it should be thrown out. That the difficulty of the shot was beyond the capabilities of the shooter is a much better argument, regardless of what really happened.

i am not denying it is possible to cock and pull the trigger 3 times in 6 seconds. The trick is AIMING at a moving target. I have been a hunter and shot guns since I was 10, I know Oswald could never have pulled off all the alleged shots. No way.
Have you ever tried to shoot something in the head that is speeding away from you at an angle?

Oh thats right, you have never shot a gun. never mind