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Ryan Skinner - Skinwalker Ranch

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Setting the Record Straight on “The Colorado Ranch Case” also known as “The Clearview Case” first documented in the 1978-1979 issues of the APRO bulletin entitled: “Multiple Phenomena on Colorado Ranch”.

Having just listened to the Ryan Skinner episode of the Paracast, detailing his new book concerning the Skinwalker Ranch and area… I was chagrined to hear that Ryan was getting ready to go investigate the somewhat infamous and mostly forgotten Colorado ranch in which a family was harassed by UFOs, bigfoot-like entities, strange Chupa-like boxes that appeared and disappeared, weird robot-voices coming out of the stereo… etc. back in the 1970’s.

The first time I became aware of this particular case was in a book written by Timothy Good called “Alien Liason” (which I believe has been published under some different titles). Then the case popped up again in Colin Wilson’s “Alien Dawn”, and then again in Kelleher and Knapp’s “Hunt for the Skinwalker”. I was fascinated by the similarities between Skinwalker and the “Colorado Ranch case”. So much so, that I tracked down all the relevant, original copies of the APRO bulletin which featured this very long and very detailed report.

When you read the report on the Colorado ranch from the APRO bulletin (and it’s a good story), you will find that the story suddenly ends just as the phenomena seem to be reaching a boiling point. The last APRO report segment ends abruptly with this statement: “The investigation is continuing, in collaboration with the APRO consultant in anthropology, Dr. Peter W. Van Arsdale.”

And then… that’s it. There is no further continuation of the report on the Colorado ranch. It just stops there. I was left scratching my head and wondering, what happened after all that? Where’s the rest of the story?

I did some detective work on the Internet and managed to track down the addresses of all three of the original “Colorado Ranch” investigators: Dr. R. Leo Sprinkle, Dr. John Derr, and Dr. Peter Van Arsdale. I sent them each a letter with a copy of the APRO report (to refresh their memories) and kindly requested more info on the case. Each man turned out to be a gentleman and responded in writing.

Dr. Leo Spinkle has very little memory of the case at all (and he admits to being somewhat perplexed by that) and he referred me to the recollections and opinions of his esteemed colleagues, Derr and Van Arsdale.

Dr. Van Arsdale was more than willing to discuss the case with me on the phone and gave me his number. He cryptically indicated in his letter that… “I can assure you that what I found has very earthly/human – not alien – interpretations.”

It was Dr. Derr who clearly indicated why the APRO report on the “Colorado Ranch” suddenly ended without any follow-up in his letter:

“The Colorado Ranch story died peacefully when further investigation revealed that the primary character had lied (very convincingly!) about drugs never being involved. With drugs definitely a factor and his credibility gone, there was no point in expending further time or resources on this case. What’s left is just a good story. I did talk with the succeeding occupants of the house, and they never experienced anything unusual.”

So, it looks like Timothy Good, Colin Wilson, Colm Kelleher and George Knapp all failed to do their due diligence and follow up on the case before putting it so earnestly into their books. The authors all just grabbed that info from the APRO bulletin and integrated it into their books as if the story and details were accurate and irrefutable.

And the case won’t go away. It keeps popping up again and again, and now Ryan Skinner is getting ready to go off in search of the Colorado ranch with the hopes of some kind of exciting Skinwalker-type adventure. (And, I don’t blame him – like I said, when you read the original APRO report, it’s pretty gripping.)

I guess, my word of advice to Mr. Skinner, is: talk to the original researchers first. Do your due diligence. I suspect that there might be a really interesting story there that has remained submerged (along with the truth) since the original APRO bulletins… but it might not be the story that everyone wants it to be.
 

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Setting the Record Straight on “The Colorado Ranch Case” also known as “The Clearview Case” first documented in the 1978-1979 issues of the APRO bulletin entitled: “Multiple Phenomena on Colorado Ranch”.

Having just listened to the Ryan Skinner episode of the Paracast, detailing his new book concerning the Skinwalker Ranch and area… I was chagrined to hear that Ryan was getting ready to go investigate the somewhat infamous and mostly forgotten Colorado ranch in which a family was harassed by UFOs, bigfoot-like entities, strange Chupa-like boxes that appeared and disappeared, weird robot-voices coming out of the stereo… etc. back in the 1970’s.

The first time I became aware of this particular case was in a book written by Timothy Good called “Alien Liason” (which I believe has been published under some different titles). Then the case popped up again in Colin Wilson’s “Alien Dawn”, and then again in Kelleher and Knapp’s “Hunt for the Skinwalker”. I was fascinated by the similarities between Skinwalker and the “Colorado Ranch case”. So much so, that I tracked down all the relevant, original copies of the APRO bulletin which featured this very long and very detailed report.

When you read the report on the Colorado ranch from the APRO bulletin (and it’s a good story), you will find that the story suddenly ends just as the phenomena seem to be reaching a boiling point. The last APRO report segment ends abruptly with this statement: “The investigation is continuing, in collaboration with the APRO consultant in anthropology, Dr. Peter W. Van Arsdale.”

And then… that’s it. There is no further continuation of the report on the Colorado ranch. It just stops there. I was left scratching my head and wondering, what happened after all that? Where’s the rest of the story?

I did some detective work on the Internet and managed to track down the addresses of all three of the original “Colorado Ranch” investigators: Dr. R. Leo Sprinkle, Dr. John Derr, and Dr. Peter Van Arsdale. I sent them each a letter with a copy of the APRO report (to refresh their memories) and kindly requested more info on the case. Each man turned out to be a gentleman and responded in writing.

Dr. Leo Spinkle has very little memory of the case at all (and he admits to being somewhat perplexed by that) and he referred me to the recollections and opinions of his esteemed colleagues, Derr and Van Arsdale.

Dr. Van Arsdale was more than willing to discuss the case with me on the phone and gave me his number. He cryptically indicated in his letter that… “I can assure you that what I found has very earthly/human – not alien – interpretations.”

It was Dr. Derr who clearly indicated why the APRO report on the “Colorado Ranch” suddenly ended without any follow-up in his letter:

“The Colorado Ranch story died peacefully when further investigation revealed that the primary character had lied (very convincingly!) about drugs never being involved. With drugs definitely a factor and his credibility gone, there was no point in expending further time or resources on this case. What’s left is just a good story. I did talk with the succeeding occupants of the house, and they never experienced anything unusual.”

So, it looks like Timothy Good, Colin Wilson, Colm Kelleher and George Knapp all failed to do their due diligence and follow up on the case before putting it so earnestly into their books. The authors all just grabbed that info from the APRO bulletin and integrated it into their books as if the story and details were accurate and irrefutable.

And the case won’t go away. It keeps popping up again and again, and now Ryan Skinner is getting ready to go off in search of the Colorado ranch with the hopes of some kind of exciting Skinwalker-type adventure. (And, I don’t blame him – like I said, when you read the original APRO report, it’s pretty gripping.)

I guess, my word of advice to Mr. Skinner, is: talk to the original researchers first. Do your due diligence. I suspect that there might be a really interesting story there that has remained submerged (along with the truth) since the original APRO bulletins… but it might not be the story that everyone wants it to be.

What you have written strikes a chord with respect to cases and due diligence. There was/is a case that was offered up as one of the best by some people that we all know. The case has since disappeared into obscurity, leaving everyone, (probably quite a few), left to wonder. When contacting one of the lead investigators who touted the case, in all honesty was told that the key individual ,(witness), was found to be possibly mentally unstable, and the others who were deemed as credible, as not to be the case. Most likely viewed as an embarrassment, the case has since been left to linger. If not having promised, in giving my word, I would most certainly share that case with everyone. Sometimes, that’s what really sucks about giving your word.
 
(And referencing your critique in your post 142.)

As an example of having to correct [your] misinformation, I did so with a latter post, which you then critiqued in post 142. In fact, I've done a lot of reading and posting quotes about what I find that builds a solid case for what I'm suggesting. I don't see many people quoting specific interviews with time marks including links to the download. I've found inconsistencies in "the record" to show people the contradictions including in their posts too. I've provided some valid information and ideas.

But, I don't have to be perfect, I don't have to read everything, and I'm not selling anything! I did correct my post 133 to address your critique in 142 as follows: (Update: Apparently, Chris did do some follow-up to I.D. the helicopter long ago. But Chris did have many years available to search an online database before he published his book, and it might still be located to this day.)



No. Not accurate. Ryan admitted no knowledge, and I quoted him. Ryan from a recent post: "Also if I am not familiar with current topics being discussed I will not pretend to be an expert on such topics (3d projection technology)."

I was complaining that Ryan admitted in the interview he knows nothing about 3D imaging or laser or invisible light detection equipment. I'm certain some researchers already have done FOIA requests regarding this, so I'm sure there is much to be learned from experts that do 3D shows and also finding declassified info. There would be some retired laser experts from industry or in university now. I bet some Phd thesis' and published research can be found online about this too.

This is absolutely totally bizarre that he goes to this area for over 6-7 years now, and is not equipped to discover if these types of devices are doing this?

I am seriously shocked there is not one single thread topic about this subject, because that is a PRIMARY means of creating Skinwalkers at ground level or UFO's in the sky.

The military will test in both isolated and populated areas. They DEFINITELY target media people (authors/tv) to co-opt as unwitting serious believer patsies at arms length to do their dirty work. For example, Linda Moulton Howe. Study D-Day and the vast fake armies/weapons on the ground that were used to confuse the Germans in WWII. Foo-fighters from Germany?

Anyway, the whistle blower seems to say it best, and, just remember, both Chris and Ryan validated this guy. They say he is legit, and I think Ryan maintains a friendship with this guy too.

From where do you get the information that '3D projection is the primary means of creating skinwalkers at ground level'? I mean, it sounds silly, it sounds like you must have read a research paper (that would no doubt be classified) that would have to actually mention 'creating skinwalkers' and also stating that it is the most used method to do so - more used that what other method of 'creating skinwalkers at ground level'?
Troll behaviour I'm calling.
 
@ DissectionStalker Well let's say for a second that there is nothing paranormal and all of this phenomena IS human caused. What in your opinion is the reason for all this tomfoolery ? Please be specific. Simply stating Psy-Ops testing will not pass muster. It would seem they have been "testing" the same thing for 40+ years at least. I would hope they would have come to a conclusion by now.

Is it an attempt to start a new religion ?

Is NASA lurking in the desert applying final touches to project Blue Beam ?

Perhaps the military guys are hazing the locals ?
 
Van Eyck wrote more than one article on the subject. I am confident that if you continue your research you will find what you are looking for. An no, it is not the Flyer article, but it does appear in the Deseret News.
Thanks for that suggestion, which I had already accomplished. Unfortunately, when I searched their online "search engine" on their website using Howe, Moulton, and Bigelow individually as key words, I got nothing about a grant or cattle mutilations.

I will try again and update this post. But the search engine did give 'hits', when I used those key words. Nothing was related to the subject though.
 
Thanks for that suggestion, which I had already accomplished. Unfortunately, when I searched their online "search engine" on their website using Howe, Moulton, and Bigelow individually as key words, I got nothing about a grant or cattle mutilations.

I will try again and update this post. But the search engine did give 'hits', when I used those key words. Nothing was related to the subject though.

Here is the text from which the line in the book was derived: The article appears on October 20, 1996:

Moulton Howe, who has written books on cattle mutilations and other phenomena, received a research grant from Bigelow in 1994 to study plant and animal tissue associated with mutilation cases. She was not surprised at Bigelow’s interest in the Sherman ranch...“There’s a lot of speculation about possible openings or tears in the electromagnetic fabric of our planet,” Howe said from her Pennsylvania home.
 
@ DissectionStalker Well let's say for a second that there is nothing paranormal and all of this phenomena IS human caused. What in your opinion is the reason for all this tomfoolery ? Please be specific.

Well, for one thing Ryan needs to answer questions posed that go unanswered about his own encounters. If these go unanswered, then he leaves out his own possible "human causes".

I suggest you read the posts I already referred Ryan to some time ago, but here's one glaring one...

Please read post 122, which already asked about 1, 2, 3, below...

1) It seems Ryan does NOT quite see the same things his companion investigator sees at the same time he does??? It's only about 5 feet away, and yet there is confusion about what is being seen?

2) No where does Ryan answer about drug use (legal or not), though I'm not finished with the book. Do we have Carlos Castaneda? He is intrigued by the Indian uses of forced altered states initiated by food, water, drug manipulation within ceremonial rites. What is going on with this?

3) Ryan seems to say where I quoted him in post 122, that none (or almost none) of what he is experiencing is "nuts and bolts". He agrees with his Dad that it is all between his ears. Well, now, don't you think Ryan should expand on this topic? What does he mean by this?
 
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"There’s a lot of speculation about possible openings or tears in the electromagnetic fabric of our planet,”

Friday my sons and I were getting a ride home from the local garage by one of the mechanics who used to live in one of the Four Corner states… we struck up a conversation on this very topic because he saw the cover of “Skinwalker Ranch: No Trespassing” and wanted to know more about the book.

Jeremey, The Mechanic, told me about life in the desert and there were regions where there is just a total change of atmosphere and there is a sense of electricity in the air, sometimes it smells like Ozone or the way an electrical short can just stink up the area for a moment or two. That conversation jogged my memory of that observation, too.

Who else has experienced that?
 
Well, for one thing Ryan needs to answer questions posed that go unanswered about his own encounters. If these go unanswered, then he leaves out his own possible "human causes".

I suggest you read the posts I already referred Ryan to some time ago, but here's one glaring one...

Please read post 122, which already asked about 1, 2, 3, below...

1) It seems Ryan does NOT quite see the same things his companion investigator sees at the same time he does??? It's only about 5 feet away, and yet there is confusion about what is being seen?

2) No where does Ryan answer about drug use (legal or not), though I'm not finished with the book. Do we have Carlos Castaneda? He is intrigued by the Indian uses of forced altered states initiated by food, water, drug manipulation within ceremonial rites. What is going on with this?

3) Ryan seems to say where I quoted him in post 122, that none (or almost none) of what he is experiencing is "nuts and bolts". He agrees with his Dad that it is all between his ears. Well, now, don't you think Ryan should expand on this topic? What does he mean by this?

You want to go speak of honesty? Then unmask yourself, and tell us your real name!
 
You want to go speak of honesty? Then unmask yourself, and tell us your real name!
Well, for one thing Ryan needs to answer questions posed that go unanswered about his own encounters. If these go unanswered, then he leaves out his own possible "human causes".

I suggest you read the posts I already referred Ryan to some time ago, but here's one glaring one...

Please read post 122, which already asked about 1, 2, 3, below...

1) It seems Ryan does NOT quite see the same things his companion investigator sees at the same time he does??? It's only about 5 feet away, and yet there is confusion about what is being seen?

2) No where does Ryan answer about drug use (legal or not), though I'm not finished with the book. Do we have Carlos Castaneda? He is intrigued by the Indian uses of forced altered states initiated by food, water, drug manipulation within ceremonial rites. What is going on with this?

3) Ryan seems to say where I quoted him in post 122, that none (or almost none) of what he is experiencing is "nuts and bolts". He agrees with his Dad that it is all between his ears. Well, now, don't you think Ryan should expand on this topic? What does he mean by this?

I think this is an appropriate time to remind you that there were two writers for this book, and it is I, more so than Ryan, that took an interest in the role of Peyote and Uintah Lily and the role these mind altering substances may have played in the Native American appreciation of alternate dimensions. There were, in fact, specific mythology and legend in terms of spirits directly associated with these drugs. It is also worth point out that there are two distinct phenomena associated with the Ranch. There is a paranormal side, that has nothing to do with anything seemingly extra-terrestrial, and then there is the Ufology interests. Granted, going by the narratives, the two seemed intertwined, but to me, I am more inclined towards the paranormal, the idea of an ancestral energy or presence, of portals, and perhaps, even the possibility that the Anasazi (using the terms inclusively) may have encountered something extraterrestrial as depicted (at least some think so) in the petroglyphs and other rock pictures.
 
I think this is an appropriate time to remind you that there were two writers for this book, and it is I, more so than Ryan, that took an interest in the role of Peyote and Uintah Lily and the role these mind altering substances may have played in the Native American appreciation of alternate dimensions. There were, in fact, specific mythology and legend in terms of spirits directly associated with these drugs. It is also worth point out that there are two distinct phenomena associated with the Ranch. There is a paranormal side, that has nothing to do with anything seemingly extra-terrestrial, and then there is the Ufology interests. Granted, going by the narratives, the two seemed intertwined, but to me, I am more inclined towards the paranormal, the idea of an ancestral energy or presence, of portals, and perhaps, even the possibility that the Anasazi (using the terms inclusively) may have encountered something extraterrestrial as depicted (at least some think so) in the petroglyphs and other rock pictures.

Thanks DL. However, I’d sure like to know who this new found member really is.
 
Forgive the slightly off topic post

What colour are US SAR choppers painted.

the candians use yellow


CAF 118101 - Bell CT-118 (B-205) Iroquois - Canadian Armed Forces
at the National Air Force Museum of Canada at CFB Trenton/ON (YTR)
painted into the yellow stardard SAR-colours (Search and Rescue)
with additional "Aide Didactique" = Training Aid-titles
built in 1968


 
I think this is an appropriate time to remind you that there were two writers for this book, and it is I, more so than Ryan, that took an interest in the role of Peyote and Uintah Lily and the role these mind altering substances may have played in the Native American appreciation of alternate dimensions. There were, in fact, specific mythology and legend in terms of spirits directly associated with these drugs. It is also worth point out that there are two distinct phenomena associated with the Ranch. There is a paranormal side, that has nothing to do with anything seemingly extra-terrestrial, and then there is the Ufology interests. Granted, going by the narratives, the two seemed intertwined, but to me, I am more inclined towards the paranormal, the idea of an ancestral energy or presence, of portals, and perhaps, even the possibility that the Anasazi (using the terms inclusively) may have encountered something extraterrestrial as depicted (at least some think so) in the petroglyphs and other rock pictures.

Excuse me DL, I didn’t mean to not weigh your thoughts, as I have an itch that I can't quite scratch. I found it fascinating that civilization can be traced in that area up to ten thousand years back.
 
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I think this is an appropriate time to remind you that there were two writers for this book, and it is I, more so than Ryan, that took an interest in the role of Peyote and Uintah Lily and the role these mind altering substances may have played in the Native American appreciation of alternate dimensions. There were, in fact, specific mythology and legend in terms of spirits directly associated with these drugs.

Here's an anomaly... As I said, I searched earlier today for that article and quote you provided. I promise you I searched well and good too! Now, after you provided me with the quote I go back and try again. That database is crap! I tried many search terms that should work easily, but nothing! Finally, I did one last try with three key words, and then the article appeared. Really, really, weird. It is weird.

Btw, many articles were written about this (cattle mutilations) by that same publication, and Linda Moulton Howe is quoted time after time after time! LMH is either delusional and mentally "not right", or she is a sociopath (her outcomes are sociopathic regarding ET-UFO's doing the mutilations), or she is a willing government disinformation agent that is a traitor to truth and honesty to humanity!

Now, regarding Skinwalker mythology (and humans who do this), it is my understanding this is a Navajo based belief. Where is the Skinwalker connection to the tribes near the ranch? Is there actual proof the local tribe(s) were traditionally involved in Skinwalker mythology or ceremonial rites? Seriously.

In section 219 and 259 on the Kindle it is hinted two pictographs are Skinwalkers with a reference to Wikipedia and Larry C.??? Oh man, these are not valid references for this sort of speculation. Professional academics (including knowledgeable Indians) that have studied these pictographs in this region their entire lives must be consulted to understand what these are likely to mean. Even Tony Hillerman, a famous fiction writer about Skinwalkers, does not seem to confuse this issue. This is a Navajo belief about Skinwalkers. Larry C. also said it was Navajo.

This seems to be wild, untethered, speculation where anything goes...

Btw, I am very happy to be corrected if I'm mistaken, or you might have an alternate idea worth sharing. Thanks.
 
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More evidence of Ryan being "the chosen one".

In section 1393 Ryan says he's seen Bigfoot both in Duchesne and Uintah Mountains.

More evidence of mental issues, BS, or real PSYOPS by HUMANS...

Section 1408 Ryan says:

"[...] whenever I research around the ranch is that it follows me back to Wisconsin for about two weeks. I have all sorts of odd unexplainable things happen in the house. [...] ...it is very common for me to have my door bell ring at 6am for 1 week straight, or to have someone open the door and walk in with NO ONE THERE."
 
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Here's an anomaly... As I said, I searched earlier today for that article and quote you provided. I promise you I searched well and good too! Now, after you provided me with the quote I go back and try again. That database is crap! I tried many search terms that should work easily, but nothing! Finally, I did one last try with three key words, and then the article appeared. Really, really, weird. It is weird.

Btw, many articles were written about this (cattle mutilations) by that same publication, and Linda Moulton Howe is quoted time after time after time! LMH is either delusional and mentally "not right", or she is a sociopath (her outcomes are sociopathic regarding ET-UFO's doing the mutilations), or she is a willing government disinformation agent that is a traitor to truth and honesty to humanity!

Now, regarding Skinwalker mythology (and humans who do this), it is my understanding this is a Navajo based belief. Where is the Skinwalker connection to the tribes near the ranch? Is there actual proof the local tribe(s) were traditionally involved in Skinwalker mythology or ceremonial rites? Seriously.

In section 219 and 259 on the Kindle it is hinted two pictographs are Skinwalkers with a reference to Wikipedia and Larry C.??? Oh man, these are not valid references for this sort of speculation. Professional academics (including knowledgeable Indians) that have studied these pictographs in this region their entire lives must be consulted to understand what these are likely to mean. Even Tony Hillerman, a famous fiction writer about Skinwalkers, does not seem to confuse this issue. This is a Navajo belief about Skinwalkers. Larry C. also said it was Navajo.

This seems to be wild, untethered, speculation where anything goes...

Btw, I am very happy to be corrected if I'm mistaken, or you might have an alternate idea worth sharing. Thanks.

I’m responding from the perspective that you said you read, or started reading the book. However, you ask questions that have been addressed by the material in the book, for example relative to the Skinwalker legend, the Native Americans who share in that legend, and their presence in the area around the ranch. All of those questions are provided with specific focus in Book 1. Please reread that part of the book. The interaction between the Navajo, whose reservation is centered in northern Arizona, and the Ute is given more than adequate treatment. Second, if your reference to Wikipedia was made ten years ago, I’d acknowledge your assessment. However, the Wikipedia of today is quite respectable and a wonderful place to start one’s research, given the links and other references that can be drawn from the source. We’re not talking about writing a doctorate level thesis here. We’re talking about sharing interests and speculation. As for the Deseret, the archives are easily searchable, and though they have their own system and process, it is well organized, and once you get the hang of it, manageable. Finally, if you are really interested in cattle mutilations, there are links on Ryan’s webpage which suggested they may be little more than poaching by locals interested in veal. Interestingly enough, the odors associated with the process have been linked to a drug administered to the cow to keep her from attacking the poachers and protecting her calf, and the lopping off of the ear is associated with removal of the rancher’s tag that is placed to identify ownership. Often, we believe what we want to believe, and it is that belief that keeps us focused on this perspective, instead of that one. It is often better to read what is there than to seek within the words what it is we want to read.
 
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