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Regardless of how JFK handled the situation, it was still the closest that the world came to a full-out nuclear war.

As for this silly Obama vs. Palin debate, I don't believe either one would handle it like JFK. Obama would likely shy from confrontation with the Russians and thereby let them do as they please, while Palin seems like she would order a full-out nuclear retaliation. Neither of these situations would bode well for the United States. I guess the Americans had better hope McCain gets elected and stays healthy for his entire term as President. Despite Democrat claims of a "new Camelot" Obama is not JFK by a long shot.

BTW: What is all this about Obama being Irish? Obama sounds about as Irish to me as Clayton sounds Hebrew. Can someone elaborate???


Yes i agree. However i believe they siad the same thing about J.F.k in his time that he was weak and not up to the challenge. However i believe he became one of America's great presidents.What is the real reason why people hate Obama.Do people fear change.

I believe i mentioned Irish ancestry not that he was Irish.His mother is Irish American and his grand mother is Irish American" which is obvious of course. His great grandfather left Ireland in 1850. His name was joseph kearney he came from offaly in Ireland. Obama is off mixed race the other side of his family where kenyans i believe. Obama's running mate Biden is also Irish American.
 
What is the real reason why people hate Obama.Do people fear change.

I don't know anyone who hates the man, however I live in Canada. America has the same problem Canada does, and that is none of the candidates in either election seem very competant by any stretch of the imagination. This usually means people vote against a particular candidate rather than for one, or don't bother voting at all (at leas that's how it seems to work up here).
 
By the same logic, we should also assume since Obama has a Muslim name, we should assume he is a terrorist until he proves himself otherwise. After all, he will have better access to that same button if he is elected. :rolleyes:

This is why I don't think there truly is Freedom of Religion anywhere in the world. You may be free to believe what you want, but if you even appear to think any diifferent than the majority of the sheeple, you will be looked upon with scrutiny and mistrust. I find it somewhat absurd that so many people find Palin's beliefs so bizarre, yet see nothing wrong with the beliefs of Catholics that include performing symbolic cannibalism every Sunday at Mass. All religions are equally bizarre when measured with the same stick.

What you mean by symbolic cannibalism, dont get that one , i am a little slow:eek:
 
I don't know anyone who hates the man, however I live in Canada. America has the same problem Canada does, and that is none of the candidates in either election seem very competant by any stretch of the imagination. This usually means people vote against a particular candidate rather than for one, or don't bother voting at all (at leas that's how it seems to work up here).

Hate will always exist if a person is Different and Obama is certainly Different.I believe Obama is still better than the alternative given on the other side. Still what do i no, i am like you, a outsider looking in.
 
By the same logic, we should also assume since Obama has a Muslim name, we should assume he is a terrorist until he proves himself otherwise. After all, he will have better access to that same button if he is elected. :rolleyes:

All religions are equally bizarre when measured with the same stick.

Personally,I don't believe for one moment,that Obama is either a Christian or a Muslim - more like a hypocritical secularist who knows what gets one elected.But,that aside - here's a question for ya'; Don't you see ANY danger in having a President with that worldview?

 
I dont know anyone who "hates" him the way a lot of liberals "hate" Bush and the way conservatives "hated" Clinton

The main problem with Obama seems to be that he's new and untested. There is no real record to judge him by. He has spent as much time campaigning as he has a senator. If Palin is not qualifed to be vice president (despite having actual experience running a state) then Obama has NO experience running anything other than a campaign.

Yes he gives a good speech and seems intelligent, but people sense the fact that he might tend to overanalize things to death and not be a decisive leader. This is based on his less than clear and direct answers to questions asked him. Supporters say that is a good thing, since it means he's "thoughtful", while detractors say that trait means he is weak and wishy washy. Of course if the shoe where on the other foot, both sides would be arguing the opposite points, which proves that when you like someone, most people will justify and defend anything they do.

Add to that his association with a radical, racist black church, his wife saying that she was proud of America for the first time once Obama became the lead democratic hopeful, and his comments about people in the midwest clinging to their guns and religion, you have a guy who has not run a pitch perfect campaign. If you are predispoded to not like him (ie. a redneck) then comments like that only reinforce the notion that he is an elitist with a wife who hates white people.

Of, course McCain has made a ton of gaffes and mistakes, but the general population feels they know him better since he's been "vetted" by the press and the public for decades.

On the war in Iraq, he gets credit for being against the invasion, but its canceled out to some degree by him being against the surge (which has helped stem daily attacks on US troops). Plus the economy and oil prices have suddenly become the number one issue. Obama SHOULD benefit from it since McCain was one of the guys pushing for deregulation on the financial system back in the 90s. They did de-regulate, but apparentyl went too far and didn't enforce the rules in place. Too many bad loans and selling of those loans across various institutions here and abroad caused this latest problem.

In theory, Obama should be crushing McCain, and I'm guessing that if Obama had been a Senator for at least a few more years, or governer of a state, he WOULD be crushing McCain.
 
Personally,I don't believe for one moment,that Obama is either a Christian or a Muslim - more like a hypocritical secularist who knows what gets one elected.But,that aside - here's a question for ya'; Don't you see ANY danger in having a President with that worldview?


That's a quote sort of inspired from Lincoln. Plus, she IS speaking at a church. I doubt she speaks like that at secular events.

"Neither [side] anticipated that the cause of the conflict [i.e., slavery] might cease with, or even before, the conflict itself should cease. Each looked for an easier triumph, and a result less fundamental and astounding. Both read the same Bible, and pray to the same God; and each invokes His aid against the other. It may seem strange that any men should dare to ask a just God's assistance in wringing their bread from the sweat of other men's faces; but let us judge not that we be not judged. The prayers of both could not be answered; that of neither has been answered fully.
"The Almighty has His own purposes. 'Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!' If we shall suppose that American Slavery is one of those offences which, in the providence of God, must needs come, but which, having continued through His appointed time, He now wills to remove, and that He gives to both North and South this terrible war as the woe due to those by whom the offence came, shall we discern therein any departure from those divine attributes which the believers in a Living God always ascribe to Him? Fondly do we hope --fervently do we pray -- that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away.
"Yet, if God wills that it continue, until all the wealth piled by the bondman's two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash, shall be paid by another drawn with the sword, as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said, 'the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.' "

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The will of God prevails. In great contests each party claims to act in accordance with the will of God. Both may be, and one must be, wrong. God can not be for and against the same thing at the same time. In the present civil war it is quite possible that God's purpose is something different from the purpose of either party -- and yet the human instrumentalities, working just as they do, are of the best adaptation to effect His purpose.
I am almost ready to say this is probably true -- that God wills this contest, and wills that it shall not end yet. By his mere quiet power, on the minds of the now contestants, He could have either saved or destroyed the Union without a human contest. Yet the contest began. And having begun He could give the final victory to either side any day. Yet the contest proceeds."
 
Personally,I don't believe for one moment,that Obama is either a Christian or a Muslim - more like a hypocritical secularist who knows what gets one elected.But,that aside - here's a question for ya'; Don't you see ANY danger in having a President with that worldview?


Watch the second part of the video.It catch's McCain looking at palin's A...
Well it does. Look for yourself, it is quiet funny. Dirty little Robot man.:D
 
When you eat the Comunion wafer its symbolises the body of Christ and also when you drink Comunion Wine you drink the Blood of Christ.

So these Acts can be interpreted as Symbolic Cannibalism.

Thanks for that. But it is a term that makes no sense to me. I can see why people from other faiths might see that as cannibalism.However bread and wine is not human meat or blood. But i do get what he means by symbolic Cannibalism. I think Catholics would look at you like, you had two heads if you give them a term like that.:)
 
The official term is "transubstantiation" isn't it? Sounds all technical and fancy. But yeah... it's effectively cannibalism. Not really unique to christianity either. The notion of transferance of property exists in many cultures, such as Native Americans eating the heart of slain buffalo to "gain it's strength" or in certain African tribes where they would kill a lion or tiger and eat it's brain to become a more "cunning" hunter.

But I digress...
 
The official term is "transubstantiation" isn't it? Sounds all technical and fancy. But yeah... it's effectively cannibalism. Not really unique to christianity either. The notion of transferance of property exists in many cultures, such as Native Americans eating the heart of slain buffalo to "gain it's strength" or in certain African tribes where they would kill a lion or tiger and eat it's brain to become a more "cunning" hunter.

But I digress...


Yes, I suppose celebrating the eucharist could be regarded as cannibalism if Catholics considered Christ to be human. Then again, was his body that of a human or a supernatural deity? That's a question Christians have been slaughtering each other over for two thousand years.
Beats me.
Bernal Diaz noted in his Conquest of Mexico that the Aztecs reckoned Spanish disgust of their cannibalistic rites to be pure hypocrisy since the conquistadores devoured the flesh and blood of their living God every day.
I'll stick with onion bagels. Maybe also some Swiss cheese. With a snack like that, you never have to worry about choking on a bone.
 
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