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He cant, no one can. If someone could have fixed the problems they would have already done so and secured their place in the annals of history as the greatest President ever.
But he has the advantage here and hes used it. He makes the point and its not a novel strategy ive seen it used here, But he makes the point in the debates that "if you could have fixed it, why havent you ?" in reference to Hillarys party which is in power right now. Its a powerful argument. The democrats are promising to fix the problems, But they are in power and havent done so. Indeed any problems in play can be laid at their doorstep at this stage of the campaign
If he fails to win, he can always sit back and bide his time and then come back again in 4 years and say see...... now we are even worse off. He will be on her every failure like flies on the proverbial. When she becomes unpopular as all presidents eventually do he will be there saying i told you so.
The worse thing that could happen to trump...... would be for him to win
He wont build his wall, he wont fix the economy, he may make it worse and that will ruin his "brand"
Not getting elected wont hurt him, he wont get blamed for the ever deepening shithole thats in play right now, will in fact capitalise on that.
For as long as he doesnt get to try and fail, his promise of a new direction, a new way of running the country will have traction.
And thats whats at play here, not which figurehead should be sitting in the oval office. But what percentage of US voters want to try something different in the hopes the paradigm shift will yeild the promised results. Neither the donkey or the elephant can fix the problems, its not about them anyway.
Its about what they are percieved to represent.
This is more about the bull and the bear, than it is the donkey and the elephant.
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The reason stuff isn’t seemingly done in government is because of gridlock. Let’s just say that if there was a republican or democrat sitting as president with a high approval rating, with a majority-controlled house and senate, along with federal and Supreme Court judges of the same ideology, then bills and legislation would pass posthaste. In this case, because of the republican’s controlling both chambers, nearly everything the democrats have, and are attempting to accomplish have been stifled. Clinton was only to accomplish so much because the republicans controlled the majority for her time in office.
Trump knows this and once again, (like a true politician), is exploiting the situation. What about speaker of the house, Paul Ryan? He’s freaking out for fear of losing control of the republican-led congress that would allow democrats to accomplish more if Clinton were elected.
Trump's return in four years would be like witnessing the re-emergence of the corpse flower in spreading its stench far and wide. In appearing rather long in the tooth, I’m of the impression the man won’t be up to the task.
Trump knows this and once again, (like a true politician), is exploiting the situation. What about speaker of the house, Paul Ryan? He’s freaking out for fear of losing control of the republican-led congress that would allow democrats to accomplish more if Clinton were elected.
Trump's return in four years would be like witnessing the re-emergence of the corpse flower in spreading its stench far and wide. In appearing rather long in the tooth, I’m of the impression the man won’t be up to the task.
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Ron Away
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To an outsider,America's biggest concern should be how you've ended up with these 2 in the first place.Clinton seems to be untrustworthy and unlikable. Trump,where do I start,surely he's unelectable,if he is elected then we are in a computer game and the kids playing it are having the laugh to end all laughs!
kanakaris
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Keep kids away from Trump and his friend Jeffrey Epstein.
Wade
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my feeling is should Trump lose and i pretty much expect he will, i'm not so sure he would run again , certainly not under a Republican flag as the party wouldn't let themselves get sucked in again. I think the GOP is going to spend a couple of election cycles in the wilderness and while focus on House and Senate seats. Trump could run again as an independant and/or spoiler i guess. If he does run again and i don't think that's likely because of his age although he might feel like getting in the news again it will be to get the attention for him and what i feel will be the next media network.
The thing is i think he has already set himself up for his next reincarnation if you think about it. He's got Roger Ailes (formerly Fox news) and Steve Bannon (formerly Breitbart News) It seems to me he's now gunning for the next king of all media, maybe unsurp Murdoch. Hell maybe he even planned to do that from the start, maybe this whole thing is a charade to get his value up as the campaign as "progressed" he has never done anything remotely helpful to his cause, he has never reached out to any other demographic than his own choir and his campaign has to know that it will not be enough. Every time the man appears somewhere he's just speaking to his own already confirmed fan base which certainly appeals to his own over inflated ego but does little in reachng out to the otherwise undecided who are going to be the ones that will decide this election
Pretty much everything that has come out about him ...and not just from outside sources...seems designed to turn people away from him and yet he has for the most part stayed close to Hillary throughout the campaign so far. i sometimes think that Trump is thinking to himself "what do i have to do to get people turned off from me?" he was a known commodity before this whole process even started and look how far he's gotten which doesn't give me a lot of hope for our future socially and politcally regardless who wins, a somewhat common refrain of mine.
If it does come down to Trump losing, here's my bet. Being that Trump can't admit to himself or more importantly to the public he lost, he will make a series of statements that it was all a gag of sorts, he was never serious about it etc. which will make his followers feel like a bunch of patsies, but he won't give a crap about them as he will have his media network.
or it is/was as i suggested at the beginning that Trump was merely a stalking horse designed to drive votes towards a canidate that has a serious credibility problem. i felt that from the very start and while it sounds foolish or conspiratorial this election has been so abnormal in its outcome i'm not inclined to dismiss anything at this point.
The thing is i think he has already set himself up for his next reincarnation if you think about it. He's got Roger Ailes (formerly Fox news) and Steve Bannon (formerly Breitbart News) It seems to me he's now gunning for the next king of all media, maybe unsurp Murdoch. Hell maybe he even planned to do that from the start, maybe this whole thing is a charade to get his value up as the campaign as "progressed" he has never done anything remotely helpful to his cause, he has never reached out to any other demographic than his own choir and his campaign has to know that it will not be enough. Every time the man appears somewhere he's just speaking to his own already confirmed fan base which certainly appeals to his own over inflated ego but does little in reachng out to the otherwise undecided who are going to be the ones that will decide this election
Pretty much everything that has come out about him ...and not just from outside sources...seems designed to turn people away from him and yet he has for the most part stayed close to Hillary throughout the campaign so far. i sometimes think that Trump is thinking to himself "what do i have to do to get people turned off from me?" he was a known commodity before this whole process even started and look how far he's gotten which doesn't give me a lot of hope for our future socially and politcally regardless who wins, a somewhat common refrain of mine.
If it does come down to Trump losing, here's my bet. Being that Trump can't admit to himself or more importantly to the public he lost, he will make a series of statements that it was all a gag of sorts, he was never serious about it etc. which will make his followers feel like a bunch of patsies, but he won't give a crap about them as he will have his media network.
or it is/was as i suggested at the beginning that Trump was merely a stalking horse designed to drive votes towards a canidate that has a serious credibility problem. i felt that from the very start and while it sounds foolish or conspiratorial this election has been so abnormal in its outcome i'm not inclined to dismiss anything at this point.
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I won't agree with the latter simply because Trump has been pushing the Obama birther stuff to feed the extreme right wing since 2011. He is not capable of such long-range planning. I just think he got caught up in something he didn't expect, after his campaign unexpectedly took off and exceeded expectations. Were he to become president, he'd be the CEO, off on the golf course, and let Pence do the day to day work. Indeed, that's probably what he promised to the Republican Party who feared what he'd do if he were actually elected.
Wade
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the thing i forgot about is that Trump has already set in motion his "out" in that he harps on the system is rigged refrain which would suggest that maybe he was serious and recognizes his shortcomings and his excuse would be that despite his best efforts you can't beat the system (although fighting it is viable) which would probbaly help him in trying to build an altrnative news media.
SRL+
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Changing direction briefly, in considering Clinton’s leaked emails, was DeLonge supposedly to appear here, or, was it somewhere else? If not, this may be a decent opportunity with all the exposure he’s been receiving to book him on as a guest.
Read Tom DeLonge's Leaked Email to Hillary Clinton Campaign About UFOs
Read Tom DeLonge's Leaked Email to Hillary Clinton Campaign About UFOs
SRL+
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Why be president while being in the public’s spotlight with all of the mudslinging, infighting, backbiting, long hours, and stress, when practically anyone qualified to act as president, (Andrew D. Basiago/Trump?), could make a better living in the private sector?
Recently having asked a qualified friend of mine while discussing local politics; “you have the ability to run for mayor and win, why don’t you run”? He then turned to me and his reply was..., “because I’d win”.
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Wade
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To further pick up on @S.R.L. changing direction idea I found myself wondering what if anything did Donald mean when he called out Hillary's meeting with the AFL-CIO behind the blue screen in the first debate. I had forgotten all about this when in the second debate he said something about Hillary acid washing her emails and I am thinking "WTF is he talking about "?
The latter example I can understand which was probably a flailing grasp at a joke albeit a bad one because if one has to explain a joke then it's a failed joke. However I am now reminded of Hillary being behind the blue screen and I'm failing to come up with an explanation. Maybe he was trying to make an OZ like connection (behind the curtain) anybody have any theories?
The latter example I can understand which was probably a flailing grasp at a joke albeit a bad one because if one has to explain a joke then it's a failed joke. However I am now reminded of Hillary being behind the blue screen and I'm failing to come up with an explanation. Maybe he was trying to make an OZ like connection (behind the curtain) anybody have any theories?
Han
piscator ψ
I found out that H Clinton spoke to the "AFLCIO" via video link (I think this is the origin of the "Blue screen" phrase)* apparently she appeared to be angry and aggressive.
I found this video on youtube:
I know that English is used differently in America but I find the title of the video offensive, so apologies to anybody else who is also offended.
P.S Clinton starts talking at 1:28 in the video as you may want to skip the ramblings of the doughnut that presents the video.
I understand that Blue (or Green) screening is a process used during photography, especially in motion pictures whereby a subject is filmed in front of a blue or green screen, which then allows a separately filmed background to be added to the final image.
Wade
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Thanks for that Harry, I have to say though I did not see an angry, out of control or even retarded Hillary there. I found it kind of ironic that the guy rags on her lazy eye (if that's what it was) because at least I can see her eyes. Trump is always squinting and furrowing his brow so much I couldn't even begin to tell you what color his eyes are.
Reasonable article if you want an outside aspect
Everything's coming up Trumps - Mark Latham - JIM BALL
The Donald is unbeholden to the conventional institutions and pressure groups of politics: his party, the media, the PC-outrage industry, big business and the foreign policy/defence establishment.
He’s the ultimate free agent. In this campaign, the elites think that if they can defeat Trump, it will destroy his kind forever.
But once more, their predictions are skew-whiff. Win, lose or draw, Trump is not the end of a new style of politics. He’s just the beginning….”
Whats interesting is that the election looks more like a pageant than a political process
People are deciding based on superficial stuff, the personalities, the temperments, etc
And that plays right into the hands of the oligarchs/plutocrats
They dont want you voting on who will do better with the economy/social issues/foriegn policy
The electorate is far easier to manipulate if they are deciding based on the superficial factors at play right now
Everything's coming up Trumps - Mark Latham - JIM BALL
The Donald is unbeholden to the conventional institutions and pressure groups of politics: his party, the media, the PC-outrage industry, big business and the foreign policy/defence establishment.
He’s the ultimate free agent. In this campaign, the elites think that if they can defeat Trump, it will destroy his kind forever.
But once more, their predictions are skew-whiff. Win, lose or draw, Trump is not the end of a new style of politics. He’s just the beginning….”
Whats interesting is that the election looks more like a pageant than a political process
People are deciding based on superficial stuff, the personalities, the temperments, etc
And that plays right into the hands of the oligarchs/plutocrats
They dont want you voting on who will do better with the economy/social issues/foriegn policy
The electorate is far easier to manipulate if they are deciding based on the superficial factors at play right now
You know i had the very same thought, and if true is pretty much proof that there is no democracy in the US that its all a sham
Its from the movie tropic thunder 2008
And now its a meme
full retard - Bing images
I remember fondly getting into it with a fundie on another forum, and someone posted the comment.
He went full miketard, you never go full miketard.
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In the land of make believe (?) conspiracy theories …
My question is: who first introduced Trump to the idea of running for the presidency?
Fact: Trump’s campaign once had ties to the Kremlin
Again, in thinking of Putin’s attempt to influence the outcome of the election via hacking, and now with Assange dumping emails timed to influence the election, you have to wonder If they’re working in concert, or, independently?
Possibly, Assange is seeking revenge, while Putin is seeking in destabilizing the US and its allies.
Has Donald unwittingly been set up to act as an extension of the Kremlin?
My question is: who first introduced Trump to the idea of running for the presidency?
Fact: Trump’s campaign once had ties to the Kremlin
Again, in thinking of Putin’s attempt to influence the outcome of the election via hacking, and now with Assange dumping emails timed to influence the election, you have to wonder If they’re working in concert, or, independently?
Possibly, Assange is seeking revenge, while Putin is seeking in destabilizing the US and its allies.
Has Donald unwittingly been set up to act as an extension of the Kremlin?
Wittingly or unwittingly? Just who is financing Donald's lifestyle these days. We know he owns lots of money to the Chinese, of course, and it appears he used Chinese steel for some of his recent U.S. construction projects, while promising to bring back such jobs to America.
Russia? When asked, he obfuscates rather clumsily. That's suspicious. Was he promised money by Russian oligarchs, or does he already owe them lots of money. Is that something one might find in his "secret" tax returns?
Russia? When asked, he obfuscates rather clumsily. That's suspicious. Was he promised money by Russian oligarchs, or does he already owe them lots of money. Is that something one might find in his "secret" tax returns?
Ahh mine is a different conspiracy
Trump and the clintons are friends, daughters are besties. Clinton plays golf and goes to trumps wedding.
All 4 are sitting in the jacuzzi one night (my eyes my eyes) and Hillary says im gonna run in 2016, but i worry i will waste my time, its a long shot they will elect the first woman president right after the first black one, If the republicans throw a decent candidate up i dont have a chance.
Ahh Haaa says trump "i have a cunning plan" i will run against you, and i will footbullet myself so bad, so bad, you will be the only reasonable choice"
A clear lessor of two evils.......
i think though that if there was a connection, loans from russian mafia etc etc Hillarys team would have dug it up by now and exposed him
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