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[mike]

Or, Trump never wanted to run for the presidency in the first place and was forced to via an outside agent who in turn wanted to destabilize the election process without having the idiot win.

One thing we can agree on …, he is truly an idiot.

Hes not the sharpest tool in the shed, and much has been made about his language use

Johnson: Double-plus effective | The Economist

trump uses simple language - Bing

Not sure you could say hes truly an idiot, if that were true it would speak more to the US electoral system than the man. There would be something seriously wrong with a political system that winds up with a true idiot as candidate

 

[SRL+]

As you should know by now, anything can happen in America.

 

[mike]

As you should know by now, anything can happen in America.

Hes a lot of things, hes vulgur, hes a narcisist, likely a sociopath. But hes flying around in a private jet. I cant reconcile private jet with idiot myself. milage will vary

 

[mike]

But either way its a tough choice, glad its not mine

His comments about deleting the emails AFTER gettting the subpoena are a worry imo
Coming from a Police family i know that if you hear the Toilet flushing after you shout "open up, search warrant" its a good bet the occupants are crooks.

We can speculate what might be in his tax returns, but that action speaks volumes as well. You dont flush the evidence unless you know it will bite you on the arse if they catch you with it

 

[SRL+]

I'll walk that back. If he's actually piloting the jet, I guess he's not an idiot after all, although, I have an extremely difficult time imagining him piloting one.

 

[Gene Steinberg]

All this stuff has shades of gray, which is what makes this claim screwy.

Trump: Clinton deleted 33,000 emails after getting subpoena

The problem here is that the email issue is a red herring. Clinton is the one-and-only cabinet official whose email has been probed. We don't know about the others, or how they handled loads and loads of messages, particularly those that might later have been labeled classified in some fashion.

This is why the whole story is just absurd. Colin Powell never turned over a single email from his AOL account, because he deleted them. He assumed they'd be captured at the other end, the people at the State Department with whom he exchanged email.

The second Bush White House deleted or lost millions and millions of emails sent through a private Republican Party server and there were no complaints or requests for probes.

Long and short is that the email issue and the Benghazi probes were all done to discredit Clinton not to look into possible wrongdoing. There was no wrongdoing in either case. It's all partisan crap.

 

[Gene Steinberg]

I'll walk that back. If he's actually piloting the jet, I guess he's not an idiot after all, although, I have an extremely difficult time imagining him piloting one.

He is not a pilot. He doesn't/can't do any detail work. He has a poor attention span, prefers to look at the overall picture and leaves it to others to do the grunt work. Look at the way he describes his policy proposals, in simple, elementary school level language that's by and large incoherent and sometimes contradictory if you parse the sentences. There is a problem there, a big problem.

 

[SRL+]

And how does that speak about the faithful?

Since we're on theories, let's see if anyone else comes up with one.

 

[mike]

Flying a plane isnt all that hard, ive done it myself. But having a private jet isnt usually a marker for idiocy.

As for his language, many pundits are saying its a winning tactic though i cringe at listening to it myself

The idea that simple language is more relatable in today’s society should not be surprising as the new generation of young voters are familiar with a 140-character Twitter world. Modern society is filled with quick 10-second ad spots and social media, all of which thrive with the simplest message possible.

Donald Trump Speaks To Voters At A Fourth Grade Level: Is Simple Language The Key To His Success?

How Donald Trump’s language works for him

 

[SRL+]

Ok, strike idiocy, there’s a lot other things we can call it. Idiocy is actually defined as retardation. How about someone who is impressed by wealth & power to the exclusion of anything else.

 

[mike]

. How about someone who is impressed by wealth & power to the exclusion of anything else.

Im partial to a little of both myself when i can get it. He does like beautiful women too.

I dont have a problem with any of those myself.

But he is vulgar and sexist and i cant stand that in people

 

[SRL+]

I’ve always taken it that you’re a worldly sort

Cigars & cognac over there & Kentucky Fried Chicken here

O well, you can’t have everything …

 

[mike]

I’ve always taken it that you’re a worldly sort

Cigars & cognac over there & Kentucky Fried Chicken here

O well, you can’t have everything …

Ive been lucky, At the end of a working life im comfortably well off
Nice house and things in it, renovations to add that extra level of luxury. 3 person spa bath in the bathroom, pool table downstairs. Money in the bank.
My two new pups cost me over 5 grand.
Ive often remarked i was glad i was never filthy rich. i know people who are and they are never sure their partners are with them for the money or not.
Again lifes been lucky in that regard, ive had more than my fair share of beautiful women in my life and i know they were all there because of who i am, not how much money i had.
Power, yeah ive had some small reins to hold over the years. Little things like managing a dept or two at work, and holding other positions, but they always came with a great deal of responsibility to temper the situation.
The last time i sipped Cognac it was in the board room of the australian branch of the swiss bank corporation, and its a fond memory. The 48th floor of the australia square building with all of sydney and its beautiful harbour as a backdrop

I was asked last week to take a seat on the committee of the local progress association, and will be meeting with our local minister and member for parliment next month in regards to that, and it wont be the first time ive rubbed shoulders with political high flyers.

So no, i dont see wealth and power and an appreciation for beautiful women as a bad thing

But i think if you have these things, you should try and show a little class, and trump doesnt. hes crass and offensive on many levels

Wouldnt want him as a friend myself, but in honesty i cant say that should preclude him from being pres either.

His only redeeming feature in the context of the top job, is hes independant, he wants to try and do things differently.

I wouldnt want him as a friend, but i might hire him to run a company whos previous CEO's had put it in the red. I can always fire him later if he doesnt perform

And dont tell......But i am rather partial to KFC's potato and gravy

 

[SRL+]

And dont tell......But i am rather partial to KFC's potato and gravy

You can rest in peace knowing your secret is safe with me.

 

[SRL+]

Donald having prior knowledge.., amazing …
Clinton campaign chairman ties email hack to Russians, suggests Trump had early warning
Who could have possibly tipped Donald off?

 

[Jeff Davis]

In any of this as a practical matter; why wouldn’t Trump just play along with the big boys without upsetting the GOP? At one point, he actually had a shot, (unbelievably) at the presidency.

That is why even though dubious, I just can’t see it, unless he just wants to take it far enough without actually being elected.

This comment could ONLY come from someone outside the USA. Why in the name of reason do you think the GOP has ANYTHING to do with Trump becoming the next POTUS? Are you not aware of the fact that the reason why Trump will be the next POTUS is because he serves neither party? If anything, loosing the GOP HELPS his campaign. We all knew the Repukian party was just the vehicle he needed to haul the dynamite to Washington. Trump is merely the reflection of the people's passive revolution in this pathetic Oligarchic excuse for a democracy. The worse the media makes Trump out to be, the greater the chance that Trump will get the majority vote in November. We are SICK of a global elite of alpha lawyers running this awesome country's true identity into the ground. The USA is FILLED with the real *bad boys of the global neighborhood and we're sick of it being run by the next shadow dweller Percy high pockets puppet. Trump isn't quantum physics you know. The rest of the world, including the GOP elites, will have NO observer effect. What you see, is what we want, and what you're gonna get. <diabolical laughter ensues>

*(the same one's that saved yours and the rest of the globe's ass a half dozen times now)

 

[SRL+]

Вы, конечно, не может быть серьезным?

 

[Jeff Davis]

Вы, конечно, не может быть серьезным

Partly serious. The part about him winning the election despite the media or the polls is serious. The rest of the truth doesn't have to be serious, it's just the way it is and has been in times best remembered en lieu de where we are at now. The political machine has done it to themselves. They are poised to reap what they have sewn.

Here's some common sense for you: Name me one other person that effected a truly cataclysmic overtaking, in whatever area of political conquest they applied themselves to, that was a boy scout. Someone that didn't speak there mind freely, unless they were politically correct and sure to please all who might overhear them. The United States is presently a quagmire of corruption and falsely appropriated entitlement ode to an extremely powerful factional offshoot stemming from the military industrial complex. Diplomacy is fine in times of peace, however it has no place on the battlefield, nor will it ever be cause to celebrate victory. It will get much worse before it gets better.

 

[SRL+]

In a pig’s eye. I thought your candidate was an idiot until one forum member corrected me. I am of the firm opinion now that the man is actually insane or possibly a rube. Furthermore, if it is discovered that your candidate is involved with the Kremlin, he could very well be hauled in and questioned. Is it possible that your candidate has committed treason? I hope not.

If you are so sure, place your money where your mouth is. Find yourself a gaming site, place a wager, and let us know how much it was. You can thank me later after you collect your fortune.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

 

[Gene Steinberg]

538 has a great track record for accuracy.