It's a Very interesting thread.. love it keep it up!
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Perhaps instead of the idea that stimulating the brain with the weak magnetic fields is forcing a human to feel god or whatnot.. perhaps the magnetic fields are stimulating our god or whatever "receptors".
Part of the brains job is to collect and interprate data from your sensory organs, maybe persinger is stimulating neurons receptive to gooey god (or whatever) feelings.
One has to ask why these gooey god neurons would even be in the brain?
Is it a just a trick of evolution? If as a baby my right arm was chopped off (gory I know), the common wisdom is that neurons for the arm, brain mapping etc, would die off. That area of the brain that is normally allocated to the arm would be altered and used in some other way.
So my question is.. why the heck our there neurons in our brains giving us gooey god feelings (or however you want to interpret them)?
As for those experiments of brain imaging that pick up what we (or the poor kitty) sees.. they can map what we see, or where we look, but they can't map how we interprate that data, how it strikes us emotionally, what we think about it, and how has our past and or cultural experience influenced what we see.
You ever heard of Phantom Limb?
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D010591</td> </tr> </tbody></table> A
phantom limb is the sensation that an
amputated or missing
limb (even an organ, like the appendix) is still attached to the
body and is moving appropriately with other body parts.<sup id="cite_ref-0" class="reference">
[1]</sup><sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference">
[2]</sup><sup id="cite_ref-2" class="reference">
[3]</sup> Approximately 60 to 80% of individuals with an amputation experience phantom sensations in their amputated limb, and the majority of the sensations are
painful.<sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference">
[4]</sup> Phantom sensations may also occur after the removal of body parts other than the limbs, e.g. after amputation of the breast, extraction of a tooth (phantom tooth pain) or removal of an eye (
phantom eye syndrome). The missing limb often feels shorter and may feel as if it is in a distorted and painful position. Occasionally, the pain can be made worse by
stress,
anxiety, and weather changes. Phantom limb pain is usually intermittent. The frequency and intensity of attacks usually decline with time.<sup id="cite_ref-4" class="reference">
[5]</sup>
A slightly different sensation known as
phantom pains can also occur in people who are
born without limbs and people who are
paralyzed.<sup id="cite_ref-5" class="reference">
[6]</sup><sup id="cite_ref-6" class="reference">
[7]</sup> Phantom pains occur when nerves that would normally innervate the missing limb cause pain. It is often described as a burning or similarly strange sensation and can be extremely agonizing for some people, but the exact sensation differs widely for individuals. Other induced sensations include warmth, cold,
itching, squeezing, tightness, and tingling (
Ramachandran & Blakeslee 1998;
Ramachandran & Hirstein 1998).
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[edit] Clinical description
Although not all phantom limbs are painful, patients will sometimes feel as if they are gesturing, feel itches, twitch, or even try to pick things up. For example, Ramachandran and Blakeslee describe that some people's representations of their limbs do not actually match what they should be, for example, one patient reported that her phantom arm was about "6 inches too short" (
Ramachandran & Blakeslee 1998).
Some people with phantom limbs find that the limb will gesticulate as they talk. (But whether they feel the weight of the phantom limb while gesticulating is unclear). Given the way that the hands and arms are represented on the motor cortex and language centers, this is not surprising. Some people find that their phantom limb feels and behaves as though it were still there; others find that it begins to take on a life of its own, and does not obey their commands.
I placed a coffee cup in front of John and asked him to grab it [with his phantom limb]. Just as he said he was reaching out, I yanked the cup away.
"Ow!" he yelled. "Don't do that!"
"What's the matter?"
"Don't do that", he repeated. "I had just got my fingers around the cup handle when you pulled it. That really hurts!"
Hold on a minute. I wrench a real cup from phantom fingers and the person yells, ouch! The fingers were illusory, but the pain was real - indeed, so intense that I dared not repeat the experiment.
The fact that the representation of the face lies adjacent to the representation of the hand and arm in the
cortical homunculus is crucial to explaining the origin of phantom limbs.
Until recently, the dominant theory for cause of phantom limbs was irritation in the severed nerve endings (called "neuromas"). When a limb is amputated, many severed nerve endings are terminated at the residual limb. These nerve endings can become inflamed, and were thought to send anomalous signals to the brain. These signals, being functionally nonsense, were thought to be interpreted by the brain as pain.
Treatments based on this theory were generally failures. In extreme cases, surgeons would perform a second amputation, shortening the stump, with the hope of removing the inflamed nerve endings and causing temporary relief from the phantom pain. But instead, the patients' phantom pains increased, and many were left with the sensation of both the original phantom limb, as well as a new phantom stump, with a pain all its own (
Ramachandran & Blakeslee 1998). In some cases, surgeons even cut the
sensory nerves leading into the
spinal cord or in extreme cases, even removed the part of the
thalamus that receives sensory signals from the body.
In the early 1990s, Tim Pons, at the
National Institutes of Health (NIH), showed that the brain can reorganize if sensory input is cut off (
Pons et al. 1991). Hearing about these results,
V. S. Ramachandran realized that phantom limb sensations could be due to "crosswiring" in the somatosensory cortex, which is located in the
postcentral gyrus (
Ramachandran & Blakeslee 1998;
Ramachandran & Hirstein 1998), and which receives input from the limbs and body. Input from the left side of the body goes to the right hemisphere and vice versa. The input from extremities comes into the somatosensory cortex in an ordered way, the representation of which is referred to as the
somatosensory homonculus. Input from the hand is located next to the input from the arm, input from the foot is located next to input from the hand, and so on. One oddity is input from the face is located next to input from the hand.
Ramachandran reasoned that if someone were to lose their right hand in an accident, they may then have the feelings of a phantom limb because the input that normally would go from their hand to the left somatosensory cortex would be stopped. The areas in the somatosensory cortex that are near to the ones of the hand (the arm and face) will take over (or "remap") this cortical region that no longer has input. Ramachandran and colleagues first demonstrated this remapping by showing that stroking different parts of the face led to perceptions of being touched on different parts of the missing limb (
Ramachandran, Rogers-Ramachandran & Stewart 1992). Through
magnetoencephalography (MEG), which permits visualization of activity in the human brain (
Yang et al. 1994), Ramachandran verified the reorganization in the somatosensory cortex.
[edit] Treatment
Some treatments include
drugs such as
antidepressants.
Spinal cord stimulation (SCS) can be effective treatment for phantom pain. An
electrical stimulator is implanted under the skin, and an
electrode is placed next to the spinal cord. The
nerve pathways in the spinal cord are stimulated by an
electric current. This interferes with the impulses travelling towards the
brain and lessens the pain felt in the phantom limb (
Melzack 1992). Instead, amputees feel a tingling sensation in the phantom limb.
Vibration therapy,
acupuncture,
hypnosis, and
biofeedback may all be used to treat phantom pain but are often of little help. The pain can sometimes be helped by keeping busy and focusing attention on something else. Massaging the stump can sometimes help.
For planned amputation, phantom pain can be reduced by preoperative pain management, effective control of pain by
analgesic or
neuroleptic is required. The brain seems to implant the sensations from the preoperative state.
One particularly novel treatment for phantom limb pain is the
mirror box developed by
Vilayanur Ramachandran and colleagues (
Ramachandran, Rogers-Ramachandran & Cobb 1995). Through the use of artificial visual feedback it becomes possible for the patient to "move" the phantom limb, and to unclench it from potentially painful positions. Repeated training in some subjects has led to long-term improvement, and in one exceptional case, even to the complete elimination of the phantom limb between the hand and the shoulder (so that the phantom hand was dangling from the shoulder).
The success of the mirror method inspired a team of researchers at the
University of Manchester in England to experiment a technology of "immersive
virtual reality" to combat the discomfort caused by phantom limb syndrome.<sup id="cite_ref-7" class="reference">
[8]</sup><sup id="cite_ref-8" class="reference">
[9]</sup> The researchers reported that phantom limb pain can be relieved by attaching the sufferer's real limb to an interface that allows them to see two limbs moving in a computer-generated simulation. This works on the same principle as the
mirror box technique in that the somatosensory cortex is being 'tricked', except that the computer created
illusion is thought to be stronger. Another virtual reality research was reported in 2009.<sup id="cite_ref-9" class="reference">
[10]</sup>
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