A Troubling Observation About UFO Reality

[Trajanus]

It may have seemed like the Socorro craft wasn't entirely dependent on rocket or similar combustion based propulsion, but if that assumption is based on the reported silence of the craft upon its departure

And the disappearance of the flame too IIRC. In any event, there have been other reports of rocket propelled UFOs.

The technology was available and tests of lunar lander technology were being carried out at White Sands, which isn't all that far away from the location. So again, given that the technology wasn't beyond our capability at the time, and that such technology was being built and tested in the vicinity, I see insufficient reason to think that the Socorro craft was alien. That doesn't mean it wasn't. It just means that IMO, something alien isn't the best explanation.

But where is the actual evidence, or documentation, for a test of lunar landing technology? As I said before, had that been the explanation, it wouldn't be a theory but a documented fact. All the government had to do was show records indicating that a test had occurred at the relevant time and place and you can scratch one claim of ET. And what's the problem with that? The Apollo program is ancient history.
But let's suppose the government decided, for some mysterious reason, not to reveal a test of 50 plus year old technology. Look at all the people involved--pilots, engineers, technicians, their wives and kids...They would've been aware that their "test' had caused the Socorro ruckus--hilariously mistaken for something alien. They were in a position to clear up the confusion, yet NOT ONE of them EVER came forward in over 50 years???!! Come on.

 

[Randall]

And the disappearance of the flame too IIRC. In any event, there have been other reports of rocket propelled UFOs.

Zamora had made a dash away from the craft as it blasted off and the craft throttled back into a whine, so the flame may not have been visible. A flame isn't always visible when a jet takes off, and a whine is more reminiscent of a jet turbine, so maybe it was a jet engine rather than a rocket engine, or there was some sort of combination technology going on there, but it most certainly wasn't something so exotic that it deserves to be called alien. Pretty much any UFO report involving technology we were capable of at the time doesn't deserve to be classed as a UFO unless there are other serious incongruences that can't be explained any other way. It might be interesting to review a couple of other reports to see how they shake out. Any other examples?

But where is the actual evidence, or documentation, for a test of lunar landing technology? As I said before, had that been the explanation, it wouldn't be a theory but a documented fact.

There would be no documentation for secret projects that were kept secret and scrapped. So it's entirely possible, and IMO likely that this was the case. There is also documented info on lunar lander tests that were taking place. So it's entirely possible that the Socorro craft was a secret offshoot program.

All the government had to do was show records indicating that a test had occurred at the relevant time and place and you can scratch one claim of ET. And what's the problem with that? The Apollo program is ancient history.

If it was secret at the time and scrapped back then and all the stuff destroyed, then there would be no record now.

But let's suppose the government decided, for some mysterious reason, not to reveal a test of 50 plus year old technology. Look at all the people involved--pilots, engineers, technicians, their wives and kids...They would've been aware that their "test' had caused the Socorro ruckus--hilariously mistaken for something alien. They were in a position to clear up the confusion, yet NOT ONE of them EVER came forward in over 50 years???!! Come on.

That's a reasonable point, but it still doesn't outweigh the fact that the Socorro craft could have been built and flown by humans from a facility not too far from where it was spotted, and therefore why invoke aliens?

 

[Trajanus]

Pretty much any UFO report involving technology we were capable of at the time doesn't deserve to be classed as a UFO unless there are other serious incongruences that can't be explained any other way. It might be interesting to review a couple of other reports to see how they shake out. Any other examples?

Off the top of my head, I recall Edwards mentioned a case in South Africa in which some craft blasted off, and later investigation showed it weighed an awful lot, sort of like in the Dewilde case. This occurred on a road btw--an awful dangerous and strange place to test a secret craft. Btw "obsolete" technology associated with unidentified craft isn't limited to propulsion systems.

There would be no documentation for secret projects that were kept secret and scrapped. So it's entirely possible, and IMO likely that this was the case. There is also documented info on lunar lander tests that were taking place. So it's entirely possible that the Socorro craft was a secret offshoot program.

If it was secret at the time and scrapped back then and all the stuff destroyed, then there would be no record now.

No documentation at all, nor even memories??? Assuming a '64 project can be declassified now, or could've 10-20 years ago, the government could just have had some old project engineer verify that a test had caused the incident.

That's a reasonable point, but it still doesn't outweigh the fact that the Socorro craft could have been built and flown by humans from a facility not too far from where it was spotted, and therefore why invoke aliens?

Lack of ANY corroboration for an earthly craft, despite the near certainty at least some would've been revealed, and probably long ago. Zamora btw did report seeing a symbol, and it wasn't old glory nor the NASA emblem nor anything in use on Earth, to my knowledge. In addition, there are those reports mentioned by Constance.

 

[Randall]

Off the top of my head, I recall Edwards mentioned a case in South Africa in which some craft blasted off, and later investigation showed it weighed an awful lot, sort of like in the Dewilde case. This occurred on a road btw--an awful dangerous and strange place to test a secret craft. Btw "obsolete" technology associated with unidentified craft isn't limited to propulsion systems.

Interesting. What were you referring to there for other equipment?

No documentation at all, nor even memories??? Assuming a '64 project can be declassified now, or could've 10-20 years ago, the government could just have had some old project engineer verify that a test had caused the incident.

It's possible someone might still be alive and remember, but without any evidence but their word for it, how would we know they're telling the truth and not just making stuff up? Without solid corroborating evidence, maybe there was and maybe there wasn't a secret VTOL program, but either way, we know that one was possible, so aliens seems to still be more of a stretch than what we know was possible for us to have made at the time.

Lack of ANY corroboration for an earthly craft, despite the near certainty at least some would've been revealed, and probably long ago. Zamora btw did report seeing a symbol, and it wasn't old glory nor the NASA emblem nor anything in use on Earth, to my knowledge. In addition, there are those reports mentioned by Constance.

I guess that depends on how one defines "any corroboration". There is plenty of corroboration that similar type craft were being tested. We allready know about the LEM Trainer. Here's some other ones ...

Early VTOL

 

[Trajanus]

Interesting. What were you referring to there for other equipment?

In one case, from South America, a witness saw, inside a UFO, a being with a typewriter. There are abduction cases in which people were probed by instruments instead of say, MRI machines. A German guy once reported he was raised up into a UFO on chains.

It's possible someone might still be alive and remember, but without any evidence but their word for it, how would we know they're telling the truth and not just making stuff up?

They might've kept diaries, or told family members. It would've probably sufficed for someone just to have documentation that he was an engineer or somebody with secret clearance, at some base nearby, in April '64.

I guess that depends on how one defines "any corroboration". There is plenty of corroboration that similar type craft were being tested. We allready know about the LEM Trainer.

By "any corroboration" I meant some indication it was actually there at the relevant time and place.

 

[Randall]

In one case, from South America, a witness saw, inside a UFO, a being with a typewriter. There are abduction cases in which people were probed by instruments instead of say, MRI machines. A German guy once reported he was raised up into a UFO on chains.

Yes there certainly are some curious cases. If they're true, it's hard to say for sure what's behinds them. Aliens? Or something ( someone ) else? Whatever the case, it would be nice to get more info, and even if it was a secret military project, it would be cool if someone came up with some old photos or a film that showed it in action. In the meantime, because it seems entirely possible that it could have been ours rather than something alien, I personally tend to put the Socorro craft into the "unknown aircraft" category.

 

[Creepy Green Light]

In total agreement there. Rocket powered alien craft? Not likely. Rocket powered craft built by humans. Very likely. Back in the Early Modern Era of ufology ( 1947-1972 ) whenever the object in question could have been built by humans with known technology, it probably was, or at least there's no need to invoke alien technology, and therefore there's no logical reason to class it as a UFO. I think it's entirely possible that some secret military projects never became public knowledge and that all the materials were eventually destroyed. Additionally the assumption that the Socorro craft was of NASA or US Military origin is only one Earthly possibility.

100% agreed. Great post!

 

[victimized]

100% agreed. Great post!

Self combustion and blue flame states that most of the body of the humans affected by the transmitted UFO irradiation disappeared as matter.

The UFO condition is witnessed involving the activation of atmospheric burning blue light.

The ancient aware status of the UFO attack stated that the PHI signals of David, the holy state in Earth's Heaven defeated the giant from out of space particle....the nuclear sun metallic particle that is much larger than the particle on Planet Earth. This is why David was considered Holy, and all Holy states had a purpose, to keep life on Earth safe.

Many humans have witnessed the UFO manifestation and also witnessed its burning and crash....and we all know that the evidence being studied by those experimenting with the UFO condition get there first to remove the evidence.....many who have witnessed the crashes have previously said so. Yet seemingly in this case and forum query the UFO no longer existed as evidence.

The ancient Biblical PHI advice stated that when Mt. Sinai was face blackened, so too was witnessed the burning of the bush, or plant matter. The combustion incidence in Russia after nuclear experiments, flattened the forest.

We see evidence of out of space stone that hit Earth as a different form of fusion.

We know that nuclear dust is changed and disappears in conversion and leaves a residue.

So if you are studying an after effect of the UFO you would consider the following.

1. the natural atmospheric light sound and coldness of Earth's atmospheric mass normally neutralizes the out of space metallic particle and it disintegrates into dust.
2. the amount of carbon in the atmosphere now allows the UFO to manifest.
3. the evidence would therefore only leave black residue or burnt dust on the ground as an after effect.
4. the coldness an effect of polar ice melting saves the Earth stone from the attacking UFO particle, causing it to disintegrate in the wavelength opened to the pole.....cooling the UFO manifestation causing it to disintegrate.

Combustion is the reaction of substances with oxygen, with the evolution of heat and light.

The combustion of organic materials are often free radical chain reactions, which can usually be summarised as the oxidation of carbon content of the material to form its oxides and the oxidation of hydrogen to form water.

The corrosion of metals is the result of the slow combustion of the metals with the oxygen in air.

Combustion of Metals

The reason that most of us are not aware of the interactive UFO condition, is that the interaction is hot and very cold in the streaming effect (held in the stream/sound wave forming), forming a condition of atmospheric warmth, therefore the atmosphere itself does not display a large disturbance.

This reason is also why humanity who have been affected by the presence of the UFO and its attack also are aware of atmospheric fall out and streamed lines. Knowing that the HAARP is also involved in line streams as an application demonstrates that this experiment also allows the UFO entry into Earth's lower atmosphere by disturbing the upper cold streams where the UFO is hiding in an interactive condition. The same circumstance has also been witnessed by planes disturbing the atmospheric mass due to air propulsion allowing the UFO body to be released from its cooling also causing attack.

 

[Trajanus]

Yes there certainly are some curious cases. If they're true, it's hard to say for sure what's behinds them. Aliens? Or something ( someone ) else?

In all of the above cases, the entities certainly appeared to be alien, or obviously not human.

In the meantime, because it seems entirely possible that it could have been ours rather than something alien, I personally tend to put the Socorro craft into the "unknown aircraft" category.

In theory Socorro could've been earthly but if it was by now this would've been established. Btw the behavior of the Socorro craft/entities was similar to that observed in cases where the appearance of a UFO was less ambiguous. But on the subject of appearance, the craft was quite like that seen by a witness in France about a year later. If memory serves, the entities in that case were seen more clearly, and they were swiping lavender--pretty odd behavior for pilots testing a secret craft. And their paralysis weapon was suggestive of aliens.

 

[Constance]

. . . the behavior of the Socorro craft/entities was similar to that observed in cases where the appearance of a UFO was less ambiguous. But on the subject of appearance, the craft was quite like that seen by a witness in France about a year later. If memory serves, the entities in that case were seen more clearly, and they were swiping lavender--pretty odd behavior for pilots testing a secret craft. And their paralysis weapon was suggestive of aliens.

Yes, the highly significant Valensole case, described here (with links to other analyses of the case):

http://www.ufoevidence.org/cases/case140.htm

The COMETA Report discussed scientific analyses of changes in plants and soils involved in the Valensole case and in the Trans-en-Provence case of 1981. In the latter case, additional efforts were later made to comprehend the apparent uses and manipulations of physical forces employed by the 'craft' on the basis of the dynamics involved in its descent to the ground and its departure [see first paper linked below]. An idea of the complexity of such analyses is provided in the second paper linked below, by the Italian physicist Massimo Teodorani, in which the author proposes the development and employment of further instrumental devices by which scientists can better measure the intricate physical effects involved in ufo/UAP appearances and behavior.

What I'm obviously trying to suggest is that what appears to our ordinary 'perceptions' to be an adequate explanation for various ufo phenomena [as, e.g., in the 'blue flame' described in the Socorro case] likely fails to identify actual physical causes, interactions, and effects explicable only on the basis of deep scientific analysis (of which our species' scientists have been capable only to a certain extent to date).

Trans-En-Provence Update.. January 8, 1981

Centro Italiano Studi Ufologici - ufodatanet - fenomeni ufo

 

[Constance]

Yes there certainly are some curious cases. If they're true, it's hard to say for sure what's behind them. Aliens? Or something ( someone ) else? Whatever the case, it would be nice to get more info, and even if it was a secret military project, it would be cool if someone came up with some old photos or a film that showed it in action. In the meantime, because it seems entirely possible that it could have been ours rather than something alien, I personally tend to put the Socorro craft into the "unknown aircraft" category.

I do think that the more we learn about the manipulations of physical forces and fields behind the anomalous visual appearances and behaviors of ufos -- and about the nature of instruments or 'weapons' used by ufo occupants to demobilize nearby human witnesses on the ground as well as terrestrial jet aircraft approaching them in the air -- the more convinced we must become that the modern ufo phenomenon has represented technology still far beyond our own and undoubtedly beyond our own in its earlier manifestations beginning in the 1940s. Thus the COMETA group's conclusion that the ETH is "the best available hypothesis" to be drawn from the history of ufo manifestations and encounters in our time.

 

[Constance]

This is my favorite ufo photo:

"Albiosc Tavernes, France 1974: A widely published UFO picture from France.

Story of this photo: UFO researcher Jean Bedet found this picture pinned with a note to his car windshield. The note explained that the photo was taken near Albiosc in the Vosges mountains in France at 11:30pm on 23-Mar-1974, by a witness who insisted on remaining anonymous. He was a medical doctor, who had seen the UFO as he was driving home late at night along a deserted country road, after visiting a patient. bigger photo

Speculative interpretation: In this photo, we may be seeing the optical effects of the luminous air ionization by the two different types of usage of UFO acceleration-type force fields:

1. The four (4) white "beams" under the UFO might be columns of ionized air, excited by high energy e-m radiation accompanying the UFO's propulsive force field, in which case they reveal the locations where the propulsion fields emerge (for this particular UFO).

2. Similarly, the orange-colored "plasma sheath" surrounding this UFO radially, might be due to ionization by the e-m radiation accompanying the "airflow-control field".

Per Hill, the propulsive field may be thought as being long-range and narrow, whereas the airflow-control field (shockwave suppression and drag reduction) as short-range, continuous, and having components which are uniformly distributed with respect to direction. (Refer to the sections on Propulsion and Radiation of the main text for more extensive coverage of these concepts)

UFOs can focus these beams sharply, to form a plasma cone, or broadly like an umbrella. [ref: Hill p144, Vallee "Challenge to Science, p40]. Perhaps these effects could be the source of eye-witnesses descriptions of "massive balls of light with tentacles going right down to the ground" or "octopus-like UFO with glowing tentacles"? (descriptions of the Conisholme Britain Jan-2009 wind farm damage incident)

Among the cases where a UFO was reported to have "shafts of bright light" coming out of its underside and to hover over water (note: water connection I keep highlighting throughout these webpages), are the multi-witness incidents at Hamilton Ohio USA on 16-Aug-1968 sketch (police, BB, NICAP) and at Gosford NSW Australia in Dec-1995. Video on the Gosford incident (8min): . . ." ==> continues in the text and photo panel on the right side of this page:

UFO Technical Overview - UFO shapes, types, colors, illumination - UFO pictures


Patrick Gross, the author of the excellent website from which the above is copied, also provides an extensive bibliography of scientific analyses of ufo phenomena, many with online links, at the page linked next. The entire website is worth reading, providing comprehensive coverage of the modern ufo phenomenon.

Scholarly literature on UFO / UAP and ETI / ETV (Extraterrestrial Intelligence / Visitation)

 

[Constance]

Quoting a paragraph from the extract I posted just above:

"UFOs can focus these beams sharply, to form a plasma cone, or broadly like an umbrella. [ref: Hill p144, Vallee "Challenge to Science, p40]. Perhaps these effects could be the source of eye-witnesses descriptions of "massive balls of light with tentacles going right down to the ground" or "octopus-like UFO with glowing tentacles"? (descriptions of the Conisholme Britain Jan-2009 wind farm damage incident)."

The following image, posted on September 26 by the Weather Channel, might be a recent instance of the 'umbrella' types of visible phenomena referred to above by Patrick Gross.

Elusive Phenomenon Captured on Camera

{note: the above video is preceded by a two-minute commercial}

 

[Constance]

Another informative link, to some accounts of sightings by scientists and engineers:


UFO Cases Directory: Sightings by Scientists - UFO Evidence

 

[Creepy Green Light]

This is my favorite ufo photo:

"Albiosc Tavernes, France 1974: A widely published UFO picture from France.

Story of this photo: UFO researcher Jean Bedet found this picture pinned with a note to his car windshield. The note explained that the photo was taken near Albiosc in the Vosges mountains in France at 11:30pm on 23-Mar-1974, by a witness who insisted on remaining anonymous. He was a medical doctor, who had seen the UFO as he was driving home late at night along a deserted country road, after visiting a patient. bigger photo

Speculative interpretation: In this photo, we may be seeing the optical effects of the luminous air ionization by the two different types of usage of UFO acceleration-type force fields:

1. The four (4) white "beams" under the UFO might be columns of ionized air, excited by high energy e-m radiation accompanying the UFO's propulsive force field, in which case they reveal the locations where the propulsion fields emerge (for this particular UFO).

2. Similarly, the orange-colored "plasma sheath" surrounding this UFO radially, might be due to ionization by the e-m radiation accompanying the "airflow-control field".

Per Hill, the propulsive field may be thought as being long-range and narrow, whereas the airflow-control field (shockwave suppression and drag reduction) as short-range, continuous, and having components which are uniformly distributed with respect to direction. (Refer to the sections on Propulsion and Radiation of the main text for more extensive coverage of these concepts)

UFOs can focus these beams sharply, to form a plasma cone, or broadly like an umbrella. [ref: Hill p144, Vallee "Challenge to Science, p40]. Perhaps these effects could be the source of eye-witnesses descriptions of "massive balls of light with tentacles going right down to the ground" or "octopus-like UFO with glowing tentacles"? (descriptions of the Conisholme Britain Jan-2009 wind farm damage incident)

Among the cases where a UFO was reported to have "shafts of bright light" coming out of its underside and to hover over water (note: water connection I keep highlighting throughout these webpages), are the multi-witness incidents at Hamilton Ohio USA on 16-Aug-1968 sketch (police, BB, NICAP) and at Gosford NSW Australia in Dec-1995. Video on the Gosford incident (8min): . . ." ==> continues in the text and photo panel on the right side of this page:

UFO Technical Overview - UFO shapes, types, colors, illumination - UFO pictures


Patrick Gross, the author of the excellent website from which the above is copied, also provides an extensive bibliography of scientific analyses of ufo phenomena, many with online links, at the page linked next. The entire website is worth reading, providing comprehensive coverage of the modern ufo phenomenon.

Scholarly literature on UFO / UAP and ETI / ETV (Extraterrestrial Intelligence / Visitation)

How would you react if that photo came out as a proven hoax? I have this photo in my UFO book I got in 1979. Personally, I think it is one of the more laughable ones.

 

[Randall]

This is my favorite ufo photo ... Albiosc Tavernes, France 1974: A widely published UFO picture from France.

Why is that one your favorite?

• UFO Technical Overview - UFO shapes, types, colors, illumination - UFO pictures
• Scholarly literature on UFO / UAP and ETI / ETV (Extraterrestrial Intelligence / Visitation)

Thanks for the links.

 

[Randall]

How would you react if that photo came out as a proven hoax? I have this photo in my UFO book I got in 1979. Personally, I think it is one of the more laughable ones.

Photos ... ( sigh ). I'm really standoffish about endorsing any particular photo, especially these days. Maybe there's a legit one out there someplace, but ultimately I don't think they prove anything other than that there are images of things that look like they might be UFOs. Maybe, they might also under the right circumstances bolster the credibility of a witness account.

 

[victimized]

Artificial is a human consideration of fed back advice/awareness as a human mind state.

We live on a naturally evolved Planet. Human organic life and cell states do not exist as a spirit image or presence in nuclear states/nuclear reactions/fusion/change to fusion/or nuclear orbital condition of nuclear dust.

Unnatural state introduced to life on Earth....science, in ancient times called occultism.

Occultism became a reviewed state that was discussed as being the reason for the manifestation of evil spirits and evil atmospheric attacks. Occultist practice was to convert the nuclear fusion of Earth stone.

The nuclear natural fused state supported by a cooling/evolving atmospheric mass supports fusion to remain fused.

Science or conversion changes the natural state of fusion by attacking it to force it to convert.

As the atmosphere supports the status for natural fusion of nuclear particles, the atmospheric body has to change/convert to attack the natural nuclear fusion on Earth. Life then gets attacked in the condition.

UFO is a manifested nuclear orbital signal change caused by the experiments and also applications of the nuclear fuel power plants. Change to vibration of the atmosphere called oscillation forms the condition for the manifestation of other presences....these presences are called by our human mind evaluation evil spirits or alien/unnatural spirits.

Oscillations, Waves and Interactions

Abstract
Symmetry-properties of Hartree-Fock-like orbitals in an oscillating field
A quantum mechanical system is considered in the presence of a harmonic perturbation. It is shown that for a certain class of perturbations, symmetric time-dependent HF-orbitals are self consistent. Symmetry-properties of Hartree-Fock-like orbitals in an oscillating field - IOPscience


The scientist occultist who has always believed in atmospheric evolution of cellular life was formed from the Satanic/anima spirit.

The anima spirit is a shortened term of animal spirit.

The modern day occultist refers to the anima spirit manifestation as being the alien/UFO condition, as the consideration for evolution of the cell life on Earth.

The spiritual human being stated God created the immaculate conception....the spirit presence of both a male and female light being already existed. The condition God formed the immaculate manifestation of the organic cell state inside of the already present light spirit. God is advised as being the owner of the Heavenly body surrounding earth, as 2 conditions. Naturally evolving nuclear/radiated light sounds (seen in crop circle images in fall out), and also the mass. The 2 conditions together form the body that protects natural organic life.

The occultist knows by self review that they review God as being a angle/angel as a circular angled PHI calculation. Witnessing it fall out demonstrates that the condition reviewed on Earth as God has changed.

The occultist wants to own the UFO artificial model in a collider experiment...therefore their personal want is to have the whole of Earth's atmosphere placed inside of their collider to then have the UFO interaction as a model. The whole atmospheric body is a mass that allows/supports the UFO to manifest in all places around Earth.

The theories of the occultist when reviewed state that they want cold fusion as a reaction, yet the data that is fed back in natural atmospheric advice states that cold fusion does not exist in a state of reality. Artificial information is being fed back to their mind regarding all unnatural and artificial states that they are applying to conversion themselves....such as the gain of nuclear fuel as a creation.

When the information of creation is advised, which was first done to a shamanic mind in a drugged state he considered information that he applied in the pyramid/temple that eventuated in his own life attack/destruction, as past life historical/archaeological evidence attests. He did not consider the information for occultism/science to be destroyed by the practice and applications, yet he was.

Information about conversion is therefore fed back to the human mind with incorrect data in a presumption that life is safe.

The information about creation is that our Universe is a converted Universe and that it once existed in a higher crystalline status with much colder gases.

When our occult brother on origin Earth activated the condition for nuclear change, the origin sun burst and all other suns that existed in higher light sounds simply became hotter. The crystalline fusion in the Universe was attacked. This allowed some planets to explode as black body radiation passed through them, but allowed a snap freeze of the colder released gases when they made contact with space. This is why the asteroids have frozen gases fusing their stone together in large masses.

When our ancient occult brother reapplied the incorrect advice about conversion of nuclear fusion, an asteroid was released in out of space that followed the heated black body radiation cooled pathways that previously attacked Earth. It released it colder gases that interacted with Earths gases and snap froze them...whilst also releasing the meteors held together in the frozen state.

As atmospheric fed back advice is the advice that the male occult mind uses to consider theory, the information states....hot gases in Earth exist at the same time cold gases exist in the atmosphere at the same time that stone exists. Therefore there is no such theory as matter replacement, for all bodies exist in the same moment only due to evolution. Evolution of cold is a status that belongs to cooling, and the only instantaneous cold belonged to a condition where cold gases already existed in a status of evolution.

The reason why the UFO state is being studied in the public forums, is not simply the public informing the public of what they witness. The public are also being interviewed as a mind concept of advice for scientists who want information about the UFO condition for a new science.

Our occult brother believes that the UFO manifested cloud image formation, manifests itself and comes to the ground, where it released the spirit image for first human life, that then converted into the cellular creation. This is his own version of spirit belief.

What he has not considered as evidence is that natural human life exists as an organic presence at the same moment when the UFO manifests and the alien imagery is witnessed.

Secondly he also has not considered the fact that human life is recorded enmasse as a presence in the photon recording effect of our atmosphere, and therefore animal image and also human imagery as a huge body is also manifested as a sound state in the atmospheric cloud imagery.

The natural condition of Earth's atmosphere is a blue sky with no image.

Conversion causes image to form in the cloud reaction, yet at times no image is in the cloud reaction.

He therefore has a false ideal about creation, and always has, the only reason why spiritual minded human beings have fought his incorrect mind advice.

As stated before our occult brother considers information in a first review....personal want. He then reviews data based on his want and has never used data in a correct review. His want is the reason why our modern life is once again being attacked by his choice of converting nuclear fusion.

 

[Wade]

I got a fortune cookie the other day that pretty much stated the same thing.

 

[Constance]

Why is that one your favorite?

Thanks for the links.

You're most welcome. I think Patrick Gross's ufo site provides an exceptionally informative overview of ufo case history and new scientific thinking concerning the nature of ufos.

That particular ufo photo is my favorite because it coincides so well with contemporary scientific insights into ionized light and plasmas as explanations of key aspects of ufo appearances, and in particular with research concerning anomalous ufo beams that stop in midair. Bill Chalker has pursued this and other observed anomalous light beam phenomena in terms of 'solid light', a concept fascinating in itself. I also think the photo is very beautiful.