Gaza Israel bombings

[mike]

“Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me:
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.”

The truth is in Islam this is an anathema to Islamic ideals....

Yeah, when you drill down into islam it becomes obvious its a political and societal control system posing as a religion.
It has all the markers of a destructive cult rather than a spiritual purpose

 

[stonehart]

Yeah, when you drill down into islam it becomes obvious its a political and societal control system posing as a religion.
It has all the markers of a destructive cult rather than a spiritual purpose

“In our age there is no such thing as ‘keeping out of politics.’ All issues are political issues, and politics itself is a mass of lies, evasions, folly, hatred and schizophrenia.”

could not resist that quote

 

[flipper]

“In our age there is no such thing as ‘keeping out of politics.’ All issues are political issues, and politics itself is a mass of lies, evasions, folly, hatred and schizophrenia.”

could not resist that quote

Really when you come to the truth of what wars are all about, it is economics that sometimes uses religion as it reason.Luther could not have had his reformation if the German princes had not wanted to stop paying taxes to Rome. Calvin had complete a Christian state but would have lost his place as "leader" if he had pursued his truth that usury (interest) was against Jesus teachings and should be eliminated. Likewise the war against the Cathars was a land grab. Individuals act in accordance to their religion. Once a people get organized and start acting as the teaching of their religion says they should an army is quickly assembled to eliminate them. Look how many Christian peasants where killed during the Reformation because they believed that they should not be lorded over and the resources of the land should be shared. A really interesting read is " Will Durant's The Reformation [Wyclif to Calvin]." Like wise Israel's behavior is anathema to Judaism. Israel would not be there doing it's deeds if major economic interests did not want it there.

 

[Tyger]

Really when you come to the truth of what wars are all about, it is economics that sometimes uses religion as it reason.Luther could not have had his reformation if the German princes had not wanted to stop paying taxes to Rome. Calvin had complete a Christian state but would have lost his place as "leader" if he had pursued his truth that usury (interest) was against Jesus teachings and should be eliminated. Likewise the war against the Cathars was a land grab. Individuals act in accordance to their religion. Once a people get organized and start acting as the teaching of their religion says they should an army is quickly assembled to eliminate them. Look how many Christian peasants where killed during the Renaissance because they believed that they should not be lorded over and the resources of the land should be shared. A really intersting read is " Will Durant's The Renaissance." Like wise Israel's behavior is anathema to Judaism. Israel would not be there doing it's deeds if major economic interests did not want it there.

"Israel's behavior is anathema to Judaism."

Exactly so.

As are the actions of Muslim extremists to Muslims.

As are the actions of Christian fundamentalists (a la Westboro) to Christians.

Though apparently the line oft quoted was not actually said by anyone in the Watergate scandal (except in the film), it bears repeating always: 'Follow the money'.

 

[mike]

“In our age there is no such thing as ‘keeping out of politics.’ All issues are political issues, and politics itself is a mass of lies, evasions, folly, hatred and schizophrenia.”

could not resist that quote

I agree, and they have all done it to a degree, when Xstianity was both church and state it too did some lousy things.

But Islam is still at it today, here in the 21st century.
Its purpose isnt just for spiritual guidance, it regulates every aspect of its cult members lifes, right down to who they should hate and kill and why

Like all of these institutions its a joke, Their book has a tale of Noah, including the taking of apes and pigs into the ark.

Well done allah, you couldnt predict those same apes and pigs would evolve into jews ?

Or the clown who recently called on allah to wipe them out saying its no effort for allah to do so....... but they are still here.......

The simple answer is jews didnt evolve from apes and pigs, allah didnt make a mistake, like all the magic sky men he simply doesnt exist.
Which also explains why the jews are still here despite it being a snap of the fingers proposition for him to count and kill them all.

The 21st century and humans are still killing each other over the name of an imaginary sky man.........

 

[mike]

Islam’s disturbing legacy of slavery | Freethought Nation



“Slavery is a part of Islam… Slavery is part of jihad, and jihad will remain as long there is Islam… [Those who argue that slavery has been abolished are] ignorant, not scholars. They are merely writers. Whoever says such things is an infidel.”
Sheikh Saleh Al-Fawzan, member of Senior Council of Clerics, Saudi Arabia’s highest religious body (2003)


When asked about the essence of the Shari'a, I mention three key elements: Muslim superiority over non-Muslims, male superiority over females, and the legitimacy of violence to extend Islam's sway. Huwaini's "I go to the market and pick whichever female I desire and buy her" vividly and memorably illustrates all three elements. June 11, 2011 update: The website TranslatingJihad.com provides a condensed transcript of this statement at "Video: Shaykh al-Huwayni: 'When I want a sex slave, I just go to the market and choose the woman I like and purchase her'."

 

[mike]

Both the Islamic State militants and the Syrian government have committed crimes against humanity during the civil war in Syria, a report by a special UN panel says.
The report, conducted by the Independent International Commission of Inquiry, accuses the Islamic State militants of “widespread and systematic attacks on the civilian population” in Syria.
"In areas of Syria under ISIS control, particularly in the north and northeast of the country, Fridays are regularly marked by executions, amputations and lashings in public squares," the four-member commission said in a statement. “Bodies of those killed are placed on display for several days, terrorizing the local population. Women have been lashed for not abiding by ISIS’s dress code. In Ar-Raqqah, children as young as 10 are being recruited and trained at ISIS camps. ISIS has forcibly displaced Kurdish communities in northern Syria. Journalists and other media workers are systematically targeted.”
The document said that civilians, including children, have been present at brutal executions, which “take the form of beheading or shooting in the head at close range.”

According to UN estimates, the bloody civil war that has been raging in Syria since March 2011 has already cost the lives of over 190,000 people.


'Executions, amputations and lashings': ISIS commits war crimes in Syria, UN says — RT News


Six Million Displaced by War in Syria - In Focus - The Atlantic

Puts Gaza into perspective doesnt it ?

But where was the outrage ?

 

[kanakaris]

"If I’m in Jerusalem and I put 500 Jewish settlers out here to the east and there’s ten thousand Arab settlers in here, if we draw the border to include them, either it ceases to be a Jewish state or you say the Arabs don’t get to vote — apartheid. That didn’t work too well the last time I saw that practiced in a country. So we’ve got to work on this with a sense of urgency, and I paid a military security price every day as a commander of CENTCOM because the Americans were seen as biased in support of Israel, and that moderates all the moderate Arabs who want to be with us because they can’t come out publicly in support of people who don’t show respect for the Arab Palestinians."

- General James Mattis, former head of the U.S. Central Command (whose Area Of Responsibility includes the Middle East), May 2010

 

[mike]

Thats a term ppl like to try and inject into this because it has an established emotional leverage.

And again you have to place it in context

In Israel, Arab citizens are represented in Knesset and enjoy full legal equality. The very idea of “Israeli Apartheid” is an attempt to stigmatize, and ultimately destroy, Israel’s efforts to defend itself. Islamic Apartheid, however, is a very different matter. Is it “anti-Muslim” to point out that Islamic law mandates institutionalized discrimination against women? Muslim women are the first victims of Islamic law’s denial of basic rights for women; is it “anti-Muslim” to speak out for them and say that as human beings they deserve better?
Women are greatly burdened in many Muslim countries. Across the Islamic world, they endure restrictions on their movements, their marital options, their professional opportunities, and more. In Kuwait and elsewhere, women cannot vote or hold office. According to Amnesty International, in Saudi Arabia “women…who walk unaccompanied, or are in the company of a man who is neither their husband nor a close relative, are at risk of arrest on suspicion of prostitution or other ‘moral’ offences.”
The oppression of women in Muslim lands is not an accident. The proposition that, as the Qur’an says, “men have a status above women” (2:228) is all-pervasive in the Islamic world. Aisha, the most beloved of the Muslim prophet Muhammad’s many wives, admonished women in no uncertain terms to submit: “O womenfolk, if you knew the rights that your husbands have over you, every one of you would wipe the dust from her husband’s feet with her face.”
The oppression of women sanctioned by the teachings of Islam, and often by its holy book, manifests itself in innumerable ways. Among its most notorious are female genital mutilation, which an Islamic legal manual approved by Cairo’s prestigious al-Azhar University states is required “for both men and women.” Then there is wife-beating, sanctioned by nothing less than the Qur’an itself, which tells men to “beat” women from whom they “fear disobedience” (4:34). The Pakistan Institute of Medical Sciences has determined that over ninety percent of Pakistani wives have been struck, beaten, or abused sexually — for offenses on the order of cooking an unsatisfactory meal. Others were punished for failing to give birth to a male child. Dominating their women by violence is a prerogative Muslim men cling to tenaciously. In Spring 2005, when the East African nation of Chad tried to institute a new family law that would outlaw wife beating, Muslim clerics led resistance to the measure as un-Islamic.

Keeping an enemy at arms length , that wants to kill you because his holy book says to isnt Apartheid, its just good sense.

Compare that to how Islam treats women and minoritys and anyone not of the faith.

Surely, life is not so good in a Palestinian refugee camp – no matter who is to blame, but it’s undeniably a whole lot worse for Mauritanian slaves. According to a Human Rights Watch/Africa report, routine punishments for slaves in Mauritania – for the slightest fault – include beatings, denial of food and prolonged exposure to the sun, with hands and feet tied together. More serious infringement of the master’s rule (in American slave-owning parlance, “getting uppity”) can lead to prolonged tortures known as “the camel treatment,” in which the slave’s body is slowly torn apart; the “insect treatment,” in which tiny desert insects are inserted and sealed into the ear canal until the slave is driven mad; and “burning coals,” a torture not fit to describe in a family newspaper. Perhaps the reason for silence on campuses about these things is that the story of black slaves and their Arab masters remains unknown there. It would, of course, be a sensitive topic: slavery has existed in Mauritania since the 12th century, when Arab tribes from the Arabian Peninsula invaded and conquered North Africa. Raiders then stormed African villages to the south, pillaging, enslaving and converting the indigenous peoples to Islam. While the Koran forbids the enslavement of fellow Muslims, just as in the West, in North Africa racism trumped religious doctrine. The descendants of those Arab invaders are today’s slave owners. The descendants of those captured as slaves in jihad raids are in human bondage today. These are, then, black Muslim slaves – who, for racist reasons, aren’t allowed to touch the Koran with their black hands, who can’t marry without their owners’ permission, and whose children belong to the master.

Islam takes racism to a whole new level, you need a new word to describe its views on anyone who is not a muslim man.

They consider themselves superior (because their holy buttrag of a book says its true)
Not just to women, but to everyone else who isnt a male muslim.

Take all the things you think are bad about Apartheid, and multiply that by 3, thats Islams view and treatement of we lessor mortals



Slay them wherever you find them. Drive them out of the places from which they drove you. Idolatry is worse than carnage.
Quran 2:190-2:191,

Do you even understand whats being said here ? having a statue of jesus or buddah or even a porcelain bust of bethoveen is WORSE than carnage.
Is a greater evil than beheading someone, or chopping off their hands.

Does that sound right to you ?

You want to talk about Aparteid ?

YOU are unclean

Believers, know that the idolaters [non-Muslims] are unclean.
Quran 9:28,
And heres what you can expect if they spread their caliphate to your neck of the woods

Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them. Know that God is with the righteous.
Quran 9:123,

I shall cast terror into the hearts of the infidels. Strike off their heads, strike off the very tips of their fingers.
Quran 8:12,

Women are inferior in Islam
Non muslims ie you and i are inferior in islam

Let not the unbelievers think that they will ever get away. They have not the power to do so. Muster against them all the men and cavalry at your command, so that you may strike terror into the enemy of God and your enemy...
Quran 8:59-60,



[Muhammad] said, "...fight everyone in the way of God and kill those who disbelieve in God..."
Ibn Ishaq, The Life of Muhammad, p. 672


[The Koran is one of] the most stubborn enemies of Civilisation, Liberty, and the Truth which the world has yet known.
William Muir

 

[mike]

Sharia [Islamic law] is totally incompatible with the U.S. Constitution and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights of 1948. Women are inferior under Islamic law—their testimony in a court of law is worth half that of a man; their movement is strictly restricted; they cannot marry non-Muslims. Non-Muslims living in Muslim countries also have inferior status under Islamic law; they may not testify against a Muslim. In Saudi Arabia, following a tradition of Muhammad, who said that "two religions cannot exist in the country of Arabia," non-Muslims are forbidden to practice their religion, build houses of worship, possess religious texts, etc. Non-believers or atheists in Muslim countries do not have "the right to life"; all the major law schools, whether Sunni or Shia, agree that they are to be killed. (Muslim doctors of law generally divide sins into great sins and little sins. Of the 17 great sins, unbelief is the greatest, more heinous than murder, theft, adultery, etc.) Slavery is recognized as legitimate in the Koran. Muslim men are allowed to cohabit with any of their female slaves, and they are allowed to take possession even of married female slaves. One does not have the right to change one’s religion if one is born into a Muslim family; here is how the great commentator Baydawi sees the matter: "Whosoever turns back from his belief, openly or secretly, take him and kill him wheresoever you find him, like any other infidel. Separate yourself from him altogether. Do not accept intercession in his regard." And here are the punishments in store for transgressors against the Holy Law: amputation, flogging, crucifixion, and stoning to death.
Ibn Warraq, "The Two Faces of Feisal Rauf"

Again a matter of scale, you simply cannot compare whats happening in gaza with the far far greater atrocitys that Islam is inflicting on innocents the world over.

You are complaining about a tree, while standing in a veritable forest of islamic human rights violations.

 

[mike]

http://www.barenakedislam.com/2010/...funding-muslims-only-enclave-in-philadelphia/

Permit Muslim-only Enclaves? :: Daniel Pipes

"Islam wishes to destroy all States and Governments anywhere on the face of the earth which are opposed to the ideology and programme of Islam regardless of the country or the Nation which rules it. The purpose of Islam is to set up a State on the basis of its own ideology and programme, regardless of which Nation assumes the role of the standard bearer of Islam or the rule of which nation is undermined in the process of the establishment of an ideological Islamic State...
"Islam does not intend to confine this revolution to a single State or a few countries; the aim of Islam is to bring about a universal revolution."
- Sayyid Abul A'la Maududi


"Make no mistake, Sharia-Compliant Finance is neither about religion nor about God. It is about Islamist control and collectivization of Muslims against the West and free markets. SCF systems are nothing more than a ruse to give transnational Islamist movements and their controlling Muslim theocrats an economic power base. Attempts to appease requests by Islamists to provide so-called SCF are misguided. SCF provides sanction of a dangerous separatist economic system which incubates Islamist ideology among Muslims and keeps them apart from the general population. Islamist theocrats exploit Western deference to religious freedom in order to lay the foundations of a system which feigns religion in order to control the economic decisions of Muslims and non-Muslims alike. SCF allows governments and banks to empower Islamist theocrats who really only want to control Muslim economics rather than actually stimulate the open economic freedom of Muslims. This is the difference between theocracy and liberty, instead of lay citizens controlling their own economic transactions, the invisible hand becomes the hand of the Islamist cleric."
- Dr. Zuhdi Jasser

 

[kanakaris]

"As long as in this territory west of the Jordan river there is only one political entity called Israel it is going to be either non-Jewish, or non-democratic. If this bloc of millions of Palestinians cannot vote, that will be an apartheid state."

- Ehud Barak, former Israel Prime Minister

 

[mike]

You want to talk about Apartheid ?

Its codified into islam

Dhim·mi (dîm-mî or zîm-mî) - An Islamic term that refers to a subjugated non-Muslim person living in a Muslim society. Second-class status is confirmed by the legal system and dhimmis do not share the rights of their Muslim rulers.

Non-Muslims are not equal to Muslims under the law. They must comply to Islamic law if they are to remain safe. They are forbidden to marry Muslim women, publicly display wine or pork, recite their scriptures or openly celebrate their religious holidays or funerals. They are forbidden from building new churches or building them higher than mosques. They may not enter a mosque without permission. A non-Muslim is no longer protected if he leads a Muslim away from Islam. They cannot testify against a muslim in court.

Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth."

-- Omar M. Ahmad, founder of Council on American-Islamic Relations

 

[mike]

Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, The Supreme Leader of Iran, the Shia Grand Ayatollah, 1979-89 said in his official statements:

"A man can quench his sexual lusts with a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate. Sodomizing the baby is halal (allowed by sharia). If the man penetrates and damages the child, then he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl, however, does not count as one of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to marry the girl’s sister. It is better for a girl to marry when her menstruation starts, and at her husband's house rather than her father's home. Any father marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven."

Khomeini, "Tahrirolvasyleh" fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990

 

[mike]

We are a group of Muslim apostates, who have left Islam out of our own conviction when we discovered that Islam is not a religion at all.

Most of us took a prolonged period of time to study, evaluate and contemplate on Islam, the religion of our birth. Having meticulously scrutinized Islam, we concluded that it is not a religion of peace at all, as touted by smooth-talking, self-serving Muslims and their apologists from non-Muslim backgrounds. The core of Islam—namely the Qur'an, Hadis and Sharia—is filled with unbounded hatred of the unbelievers, unbelievably intolerant toward them, and extremely cruel and merciless to those Muslims, who dare to deviate from its doctrines.

We also realized that Islam is beyond reformation, because Muslims—who attempt to modernize and reform its unremitting bigotry, irrational rituals, and cruel and draconian punitive measures—are targeted for annihilation. Our verdict was that the only way to escape from the tyranny of Islam is to leave it altogether. We have, therefore, discarded Islam from our life, so that we can be free to enjoy a normal, pleasant and humane life in complete harmony with all peoples on earth, irrespective of their religion, race or creed.

Having thoroughly understood—through our meticulous investigation of Islam for years to decades—that Islam was nothing but a lie, most of us have left Islam silently, because of the mortal threats of Islam on our life. As Islamic terrorism and violence overwhelms the world, particularly in the post-9/11 years, we also felt that it's a responsibility upon us to make world's 1.4+ billion Muslims aware of the falsity of their religion and its cruel nature, so that they can make informed choices and leave Islam to live with love, respect and harmony with the rest of humanity.

We also felt it incumbent upon us to make the non-Muslim world aware of the reality of Islam, and undertake timely precautionary measures against this religion of terror, hatred and mayhem. We tell the world that the ongoing terrorism, unleashed by Islamic militants, is not an aberration from the so-called 'peaceful religion of Islam'; instead, it is the real Islam preached and practiced by its founder, Prophet Muhammad. A thorough study of the Qur'an and prophetic tradition (Hadith, Sunnah) makes that obvious.
We, therefore, have launched this website to expose the "real Islam"—the Islam that is determined to replace the modern civilization with the 7th-century Arab Bedouin barbarism, peddled by Muslims as the true Islamic Civilization. Let the world watch Islam through www.islam-watch.org and be warned.


About Us

Dhim·mi (dîm-mî or zîm-mî) - An Islamic term that refers to a subjugated non-Muslim person living in a Muslim society. Second-class status is confirmed by the legal system and dhimmis do not share the rights of their Muslim rulers.

Dhim·wit (dïm-wît) - A non-Muslim member of a free society who unwittingly abets the stated cause of Islamic domination. A dhimwit is always quick to extend sympathy to the very enemy that would take away his or her own freedom (or life) if given the opportunity.

 

[mike]

Freedom in the World - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Can you spot the country that sticks out in the Middle East and North Africa section ?
(Hint its the green one)

Middle East and North Africa | Freedom House



The new, more conservative social order imposed by Hamas has led
to greater restrictions on women’s rights in Gaza. For example, reports
have started surfacing of women being warned against immodesty,lawyers
being forced to wear the veil in courts, female students being forced
to wear the veil in schools, and Hamas targeting women’s rights activists.
Women in the West Bank, by contrast, have continued
to enjoy a more liberal environment.

 

[mike]

Abbas turns down Egypt offer of “Palestinian” state in Sinai Peninsula five times larger than Gaza
By Robert Spencer on Sep 9, 2014 at 12:14pm


Of course he turned it down. The point is not to have a “Palestinian” state. The point is to destroy Israel. No one was crying about “occupation” between 1948 and 1967 when Egypt had Gaza and Jordan had Judea and Samaria. The “Palestinians” didn’t consider Egyptian and Jordanian rule to be “occupation.” Only Israeli rule is “occupation.” The hypocrisy of the entire “Palestinian” cause is as palpable as its dishonesty



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A great article, where the comments section is as informative as the article itself

 

[ALPHA ROMEO UNIFORM]

The growing civil wars through the world and the ISS will strike at Italy it gets it's way time for serious crack down as it's criminal gangs joining in huge numbers. What is more fear is some folks are calling the same from other religious elements with criminal connections. Dirty bombs in capital cities is real threat in coming months of biological using illegal asserts are we in WW3 now?

 

[manxman]

I dont care, about the ISis threat, truth.

I will tell you why, i am manx that's why.

See we havent bombed them, shot them, gassed them, nor irradiated them, and if any ISis fighter was asked about the isle of man, they would never in a million year's of heard of us.

We reap what we sow.

Fastyr Mei.

 

[ALPHA ROMEO UNIFORM]

Keep living in your basement