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How is this 4.6 degrees rise flipper old son, do yourself a favour, let your eyes do the believin, not your ears.

When you fall for this.

The trend line shows that the statewide rate of temperature increase is 4.6 degrees per century. Scientists agree that as it continues, it ratchets up the risk of dangerous, destabilizing, and very long-lasting climate change within our lifetimes.


Using ALL raw station data, against just the selected ones usedto show a slight rise, America is cooler now than it was 150yrs ago, cooler than 100 yrs ago, infact each decade since 1880 atleast has been cooler than the previous, so wheres the integrity in posting the above.


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NOAA : Hiding The Decline In US Temperatures | Real Science


You will fall for the rest of his hard sell.


Now you cannot deny he is blatantly mistaken or lying, about statewide 100 yr rise's.

So how can you logically put any faith in the rest of it ?.

Can you honestly not see the hype, the gross distortion of reality, we all know theres been nearly a degree of warming worldwide in the last centuary, we all know the world is in a mess, neither are going to cause mans extinction in the next 50/100 yrs, runaway global warming is an unsustainable myth, which will keep on morphing, then collapse in time as life goes on, but not before alot of people gorge on your dollar, and chain your kids with a lifetime of debt repayments making up a substantial part of their tax's...

Do you not see a whole new generation of kids in America now being educated that catastrophic global warming myth is a real scary, they are being brainwashed into why they will be paying off the debt as adults, America is broke, all this bullshit to keep a country trillions of dollars in debt from collapsing now, borrow, give it to the economy, borrow spend, borrow spend, borrow spend, go to war, borrow spend borrow spend, kaboom.
 
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There is nothing to discuss until you watch the videos. Ask your mom to bring you milk and cookies and enjoy the information.
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I guarantee nearly everyone on this forum will find the second video interesting. Watch every minute of it right to the very end.
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Per usual you have very little to say of any substance. I am bothering to answer you to illustrate how pointless a conversation with you really is. However, I think you've already shown that is the case ever before I came on the scene - sadly.
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Why you dance to this randi-ite wankers tune is beyond me pixel.
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I think it's clear that Pixel dances to nothing and no one. His great joy is in getting others to dance - like yourself - doing all his work for him. (If you consider the bit of doctored reporting you just engaged in 'work').

I've made an exception an answered him for a small bit. Result? Nothing.

Now, I will watch as you both answer with pointless rude language, as though that makes your case. Anyone who disagrees with you gets the same pointless tirades. It's tiresome.
 
And the pretence of having me on ignore is over, as i knew the use of one word would show, your an idiot tyger, i would of bet my house on it, that you would quote the insult, you should be left to wallow in your human extinction misery, and to pay thru the nose whilst wallowing in it.

Now run along, to your ghostie threads, you know the ones where you are equally as convinced ghost's are real, as you are of catastrophic global warming.

I can understand why you are convinced of both, as you reveal your impecable sources of youtube and sceptical science.
 
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And the pretence of having me on ignore is over, as i knew one word would show, your an idiot tyger.
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You were on ignore for a considerable time. I suspect you think there was a pretense because you engage in pretense yourself.

With every rude post you dig your hole deeper and show just how weak your position is. You are unable to engage in reasoned debate. The kind of nastiness you demonstrate is why posters stay away from this thread. I have evidence in the pm's I receive. It is sad that two bullies are allowed to swagger and defeat the purpose of a thread.

However, you both are examples of how successful the disinformation on Climate Science has been. You are a cautionary tale and do serve a purpose because of the role disinformation has played in our current dilemma.
 
Your like a child with his hands over his eyes pretending he isnt looking, acting as if somehow you matter to the debate, posting reems and reems f ss shyte as if the more times you post the shyte the more 'real' it gets, like i said an idiot.

You like most americans believe you are centre the world, your not, your 5% of it, because youve been duped im a victim of big oil propanda.

Manx Forums, Live Chat, Blogs & Classifieds for the Isle of Man - Manxforums.com

The manx forums are a melting pot of manx and english users, been going around 15yrs
Just normal people bickering about normal things.

If you can find a posting on there using the search function about global warming/ climate change since 2009 i will kiss your ass.

You see the other 95% of people really dont live in fear of extinction from global warming, and dont even discuss it in normal life, its just a political football countries kick about, that you see on the news now and then, but isnt worth discussing.

You can repeat the little local forum test all around the uk, and probably europe, and get similar results.

Catastrophic global warming is an american game, thats being played mainly in america, however american sponsors have managed to establish a minor league in europe.

Reality, 5% of the world is american, around 30% of americans believe in catastrophic global warming, leading to human extinction.

Throw in a few canuks, and aussie extremists and you have 2% or so of people in the world that believe in runaway warming and extinction, YOU are the minority fruitloop, you may be led to believe by all the internet noise, ameican media nonsense etc etc that you are part of some gigantic movement, but that is also apart of the sham, like ive said already, and it cannot be stressed enough, you are an idiot.
 
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Tyger you are pathetic. What are you so scared of in viewing the video I provided? I offer to discuss every minute of it with you yet you act like a little child and refuse. You could have watched it many times by now but you choose to act like a big baby instead. Why?

Are you that scared that you will be proven wrong and your tons of copy pasting will be for nothing? The video shows the BIG picture and ties many conspiracies together so it all makes sense. It really is quite interesting. I bet you could sit and watch cartoons for half a day yet you can't watch this 90 minute video? You could watch 5 minutes of it then 30 minutes of cartoons then come back to it, etc etc..
 
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Agenda 21, another distraction whats really happening is this

It's our democracy being bulldozed by the fossil fuel industry and government in such a way that reminds me of the DARK AGES. We now have zero rights - not even the right to complain about this grievance.
The fossil fuel industry and government plan to force our energy sector to switch over to natural gas and shale, they absolutely do not care if it ruins the water, and then, they plan on jacking up the prices after we're all addicted to natural gas.
It's far worse than anybody could imagine - 20% of ALL wells leak massive amounts of greenhouse gases and they do not care. In the last few years both Republicans and Democrats have reversed EPA and climate change policies in order to de-regulate as well as make it impossible for anybody to ever do anything about it.
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Now, when you watch Gasland 1 and 2 and study these issues linked below you begin to realize the complete disaster already at our doorstep. This seriously appears to be the beginning of the end unless something very dramatic changes our path towards worldwide water and food scarcity. It appears that the great culling has begun.
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Global warming the greatest scam in history' claims founder of Weather Channel

'Global warming the greatest scam in history' claims founder of Weather Channel | Nature | News | Daily Express
Published: 04:35, Thu, October 23, 2014


THE debate about climate change is finished - because it has been categorically proved NOT to exist, John Coleman, who co-founded the Weather Channel, shocked academics by insisting the theory of man-made climate change was no longer scientifically credible.
Instead, what 'little evidence' there is for rising global temperatures points to a 'natural phenomenon' within a developing eco-system.



In an open letter attacking the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, he wrote: "The ocean is not rising significantly.

"The polar ice is increasing, not melting away. Polar Bears are increasing in number.

"Heat waves have actually diminished, not increased. There is not an uptick in the number or strength of storms (in fact storms are diminishing).

"I have studied this topic seriously for years. It has become a political and environment agenda item, but the science is not valid."

Climate expert William Happer, from Princeton University, supported Mr Coleman's claims.

He added: "No chemical compound in the atmosphere has a worse reputation than CO2, thanks to the single-minded demonisation of this natural and essential atmospheric gas by advocates of government control and energy production.

"The incredible list of supposed horrors that increasing carbon dioxide will bring the world is pure belief disguised as science."








 
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How complicated moving forward as a world really is: "few people have the will to honestly acknowledge the future implications of today's actions. Most people prefer to just 'get by' with the status quo."

So we will find out - 60 days forward is March. We all should be alive in 3 months. Let's watch and see how this goes.

Alarm bells toll for human civilization as world's 12th largest mega-city to run out of water in just 60 days
Wednesday, December 03, 2014 by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger
LINK: Alarm bells toll for human civilization as world's 12th largest mega-city to run out of water in just 60 days - NaturalNews.com

TEXT: "You are about to watch a milestone event in the history of our world - Unless some miraculous rain reverses the extreme drought, the city of Sao Paulo is about to experience a literal "dry run" of this scenario in as little as 60 days. The history of human civilization has never witnessed a city of 20 million people run out of water before, and no one knows exactly how such a scenario might play out.

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"Modern humans will not acknowledge reality until it slaps them hard in the face. Whether the subject is the chemical contamination of the world, the mass over-fishing of the world's oceans, the pharmaceutical contamination of waterways, the using up of world oil reserves, the genetic pollution of crops with GMOs, the deep well pumping of water aquifers [...]

"Few people can imagine a world without fossil fuels; without a functioning power grid; without a 911 emergency responder system that functions; without cheap and easy food magically appearing on grocery stores shelves, etc.

"[...] so the citizens of the world will greedily drink down the very last drop of water remaining. They will fill their fuel tanks with the last gallon of gas; clear-cut the last remaining forest; fish the oceans into mass marine extinction; mine the last remaining rare earth elements out of the ground; and dam up the last free-flowing river on the planet. The appetite of Earthlings for immediate satiation and quick-turnaround profits can only lead to self-destruction.

"Have no illusions that if oxygen in the atmosphere could be turned into solid gold, people everywhere around the world would be incessantly mining the atmosphere for profit until the entire global population died of asphyxiation. With their very last breath, they'd be saying, "But I'm RICH!"

"When Sao Paulo -- the world's 12th largest city -- collides with reality in the next few months, it will be following in the footsteps of Easter Island, the Anasazi Indians, ancient Assyrians and other failed civilizations which collapsed and died out long ago.

"If you are reading this, you are living in a time of great historical significance: You will be witness to the unfolding of the 'era of collapse' across human civilization. This era has already begun, and although it may take a century to see it all unravel, future historians will view this era as a time of unbridled destruction of the planet at the hands of over-extended human societies grounded in self-delusion."
 
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TEXT: "(NaturalNews) The city of Sao Paulo is home to 20 million Brazilians, making it the 12th largest mega-city on a planet dominated by shortsighted humans. Shockingly, it has only 60 days of water supply remaining. The city "has about two months of guaranteed water supply remaining as it taps into the second of three emergency reserves," reports Reuters.

"Technical reserves have already been released, and as the city enters the heavy water use holiday season, its 20 million residents are riding on a fast-track collision course with severe water rationing and devastating disruptions.

"But this isn't a story about Sao Paulo; it's a report that dares to point out that human societies are incredibly shortsighted and nearly incapable of sustainably populating planet Earth. In numerous regions around the world -- including California, India, Oklahoma, Brazil, China and many more -- human populations are rapidly out-growing the capacity of their local water systems. Even though keeping populations alive requires food... and growing food requires water... almost no nation or government in the world seems to be able to limit water consumption of local populations to levels which are sustainable in the long term.

"Instead, the endless greed of the 'grow-consume-profit' business model that dominates the global economy leaves no room for any hint of balance with nature. The overriding philosophy of modern business is to dominate nature with chemicals, mining and monoculture to maximize profit while kicking any really large problems down the road for the next generation to deal with.

"The result is a world where nobody thinks about the long-term implications of today's trends because everybody's too busy trying to extract a buck or two out of the very system that will destroy their future.

"Vegas, Phoenix and Tucson will also run dry
"Consider Las Vegas while you ponder all this: Here's a city with no water future whatsoever, continuing to build new casinos and grow its population even as the water level of Lake Mead has already dropped to emergency levels (and continues to plummet). What do the people of Las Vegas imagine they will drink when all the cheap, easy water is gone? Will they swallow dust and pretend it's water?

"The sobering truth is that nearly everyone who lives in Las Vegas doesn't think about this. By definition, anyone who realized the truth about the disappearing water throughout Nevada, Arizona and California would have already sold their property and moved away. Those who still inhabit regions with unsustainable water supplies -- such as Sao Paulo -- are choosing to make believe the problem doesn't exist.

"This delusional psychology is, of course, reflected across modern human civilization and its governments, where delusional rhetoric and make believe fantasies about 'endless economic growth' keep the obedient masses toiling away day after day, hoping they are securing a future which has already been mortgaged away.

"Dwindling water supplies are like government debt spending
We're often tricked into believing the government will solve all these problems for us. Yep, some Americans foolishly believe the same government which just issued $1 trillion in new debt to pay the interest on its existing debt is somehow really, really good at planning for the future instead of mortgaging it away.

"If fresh water were a bank account, the world's spending deficit against that account would be deeply in the red and approaching a tipping point of default. And in precisely the same way the U.S. government borrows money to cover today's expenses with no intention of ever paying it back, human society is also borrowing water to cover today's water demands with no intention or capability of ever paying it back.

"Right now in California and around the world, farmers are pumping water out of the ground that should have remained there until the year 2030. As they keep pumping the aquifers dry, they'll be reaching ever more precariously forward into the future, using up water in 2015 that should have lasted until 2050 (or beyond).

"In this same way, aquifers that should have lasted 100 - 200 years will be bone dry in the not-too-distant future. Farms that once produced food will instead produce a new Dust Bowl. Populations that depended on cheap food to afford basic living expenses will find themselves starving and bankrupt (and living on government food stamps, with the accompanying loss of freedom that always follows government handouts). The world's governments -- all of which rely on food affordability to keep populations relatively docile -- will find themselves facing mass revolts and social chaos."
 
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What does the world look like off fossil fuels.....

Why Faster Melting Glaciers Should Worry You

TEXT: "Published on Nov 28, 2014 - The latest episode of Thom Hartmann's documentary series, Green World Rising: Why Faster Melting Glaciers Should Worry You."
 
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Sorry Tyger you lost all respect I will not bother reading or viewing anything you post. Why would I?


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Although If you grow up and view the videos I will be happy to discuss them with you.


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