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technomage said:
Is there a particular abduction case that you believe isn't a hoax and isn't likely the result of mind control by humans (i.e. one that is caused by a non-human intelligence)?
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It's the same type of situation with alien abductions as with alien craft. I'm prepared to believe that the collective evidence strongly suggests something strange is going on, but there's insufficient evidence in any single case upon which to bet the family farm. Even John Mack, who IMO was doing the best work prior to his tragic demise, mentions the Cortile case in a manner that suggests it should be taken seriously. I also remain skeptical of that case. I'm not sure at the moment which case or group of cases I would point to as the best candidates. Abductions aren't my main focus. But when I have more time I'll see what I can come up with. In the meantime maybe someone else in the forum can give us their opinion on the best candidates.
 
ufology said:
It's the same type of situation with alien abductions as with alien craft. I'm prepared to believe that the collective evidence strongly suggests something strange is going on, but there's insufficient evidence in any single case upon which to bet the family farm. Even John Mack, who IMO was doing the best work prior to his tragic demise, mentions the Cortile case in a manner that suggests it should be taken seriously. I also remain skeptical of that case. I'm not sure at the moment which case or group of cases I would point to as the best candidates. Abductions aren't my main focus. But when I have more time I'll see what I can come up with. In the meantime maybe someone else in the forum can give us their opinion on the best candidates.
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There was massive debate a few months ago regarding the Cortile case on these forums. I believe the thread was closed. IMO, it is 100% false/hoax.
 
Creepy_Green_Light said:
There was massive debate a few months ago regarding the Cortile case on these forums. I believe the thread was closed. IMO, it is 100% false/hoax.
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I seem to recall Meers deciding to go elsewhere. Not sure why. Maybe he didn't expect that we'd be interested in trying to check the facts and look at all sides of the story instead of blindly accepting whatever he said.
 
ufology said:
I seem to recall Meers deciding to go elsewhere. Not sure why. Maybe he didn't expect that we'd be interested in trying to check the facts and look at all sides of the story instead of blindly accepting whatever he said.
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Ah yes, you remember. Obviously, you took part in the conversation. I apologize, I don't remember every person that took part. But you are exactly right.
 
Forget It.

You and I will never see Stanford's material.

His reasons for withholding make no sense either. Absolutely none.

Perhaps some future Adam dew will find his film and photos in a trunk in some dusty old attic one day and we'll see them on a screen in a Bolivian music hall.

With support from the preserved brain in a jar of Tom Carey spooling out his Roswell schtick.
 
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callmesnake said:
one day and we'll see them on a screen in a Bolivian music hall.
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You have no idea how prophetic you may be. The latest style of architecture for the indigenous well to do is called Bolivian Spaceship Architecture. Perhaps the "truth" about saucers would be perfectly at home in these new music halls?
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To Ben and Tony:

On your visit with Ray this weekend please ask Ray if you can copy his pamphlet titled Look Up from 1958.

Ray and his brother both claimed to have had many direct communication contactee experiences by age 20 with ET Aliens multiple times that were documented and recounted in their published pamphlet [or short paperback] titled Look Up.

We certainly need to understand in detail about Ray's direct contactee and communication experiences with his brother communicating directly with ET Aliens at such a young age.

If the pamphlet Look Up is not long, then digital photos could just be taken of the pages to capture the text. No need for any elaborate copy process.

Thanks.
 
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