Ryan Skinner - Skinwalker Ranch

[DissectionStalker]

Let's consider Sherman is a top suspect at least as a mental exercise and play Sherlock Holmes.

1) For whatever reason he was losing money with his cattle losses. There's a money motive to possibly leave.

2) Did he remain married with his same wife on the ranch?

3) He gained a lot of money back by selling his ranch at "near cost" (that can be checked in county records), AND he was hired by Bigelow too! He made at least most of his money back, and maybe he got more "under the table" too???

4) No police report OR evidence is taken for the missing 3 dogs with "grease spots". Jr. Hicks sees something, but we don't know what that is??? Was he faked-out by Sherman?

PLEASE help with the following...

5) Can someone check Knapp's book to see if the dogs chased the Orbs OR a light OR ? before being zapped into grease spots. Thanks!

 

[DissectionStalker]

Does Terry Sherman lie with huge bullshit stories??? Hell yes! ? (Probability High!)
I just found this out...

Ok, this is just "over the top"!!! Did you seriously read the story of The Wolf in Knapp's book? You can read that section free at Amazon. The Wolf. That's insane!!! Right off, we can see what this means from a REALITY BASED POV.

There are no 3D projection optics known to work in daytime like this. We definitely have a BALLOON BOY. Yes, Terry Sherman is a Balloon Boy, unless he is calling Knapp a liar???

Even Giant Wolf-Entities don't show themselves in broad daylight in front of several people and get shot chock-full of lead after being petted and showing tameness.

Soooo, Ryan reads Knapp's book in 2005 and goes to Skinwalker Ranch over this BS???????????

Someone, please offer a reasonable explanation WHY we should be considering ANY cause beyond Balloon Boy Sherman???

I think it's really funny that this thread got talked about on the Paracast show, and Chris and Gene were even using the word INSANE about what was going on in 'here'. I just can't stop laughing that ANYONE could believe The Wolf Story in Knapp's book and go on to devote years of study about the ranch with that kind of Wolf-Fairy Tale.

WTF Ryan!!! Are you serious?

PLEASE NOTE: Nowhere in Ryan's book does Resident complain to Ryan about Knapp lying about the Wolf Story, but they discuss several sightings of The Wolf AND Knapp too!!! In Ryan's book he pointedly asks Resident for any mistakes or errors that Knapp made. Resident corrects nothing about that question. Previously, Resident said some was correct, lots missing, and some twisted together, but, again, nothing is said against The Wolf story in Knapp's book, period.

Also, Resident had no problem complaining harshly about another book and suggesting the author is a liar and in it for the money! Resident will fire-a-way! Does Resident attack Knapp's book? No!

 

[DL Wallace]

Does Terry Sherman lie with huge bullshit stories??? Hell yes! I just found this out...

Ok, this is just "over the top"!!! Did you seriously read the story of the Wolf in Knapp's book? That's insane!!! Right off, we can see what this means from a REALITY BASED POV.

There are no 3D projection optics known to work in daytime like this. We definitely have a BALLOON BOY. Yes, Terry Sherman is a Balloon Boy, unless he is calling Knapp a liar???

Even Giant Wolf-Entities don't show themselves in broad daylight in front of several people and get shot chock-full of lead after being petted and showing tameness.

Soooo, Ryan reads Knapp's book in 2005 and goes to Skinwalker Ranch over this BS???????????

Someone, please offer a reasonable explanation WHY we should be considering ANY cause beyond Balloon Boy Sherman???

Resident--the identity of whom clearly escapes you--states that elements of Knapp's/Kelleher's book are not what was told to them. This event, perhaps, was one of them. If you choose to cross-reference, the most basic of investigative strategies, you will see that there are glaring omissions between the Van Ecyk articles, other interviews attributed to the Shermans (at least by claim), and the Knapp/Kelleher book, namely, none of these other sources mention anything about this particular wolf or incident; yet they all include reference to the UFO/orb/voice, etc. anomalies. Doesn't that allow for some other conclusion than the one you are making?

 

[DL Wallace]

Let's consider Sherman is a top suspect at least as a mental exercise and play Sherlock Holmes.

1) For whatever reason he was losing money with his cattle losses. There's a money motive to possibly leave.

2) Did he remain married with his same wife on the ranch?

3) He gained a lot of money back by selling his ranch at "near cost" (that can be checked in county records), AND he was hired by Bigelow too! He made at least most of his money back, and maybe he got more "under the table" too???

4) No police report OR evidence is taken for the missing 3 dogs with "grease spots". Jr. Hicks sees something, but we don't know what that is??? Was he faked-out by Sherman?

PLEASE help with the following...

Can someone check Knapp's book to see if the dogs chased the Orbs OR a light OR ? before being zapped into grease spots. Thanks!

Would he not have used the money from the sale of the ranch to purchase another home? Does the concept of money and cattle as a business confuse you? If the money is invested in the livestock, and the livestock is disappearing, and not from sales, would that investment not be considered lost? Your second question is answered in the book, but your ability to discern as much comes into question.

I apologize to others who wish this particular thread would dissolve and go away, for perpetuating it, that is, but some things are irresistible.

 

[Wade]

Yeah, I know. It's sort of like probing at a cavity with your tongue or opening that scab, you know you're going to regret it, BUT YOU JUST CAN'T HELP IT.

 

[DissectionStalker]

Could this be sophisticated disinformation PSYOPS from Knapp too? What would be the purpose considering the timeline? That's 8-9 years after the Sherman's left the ranch. Serman would have to remain "a trusted" asset, and he did sign an NDA. Knapp is well connected to Bigelow. So, the elements of some type of PSYOPS seem in place. BUT. Was it somehow manufactured from the start? Knapp did Area 51 with Lazar and Lear. Linda Howe got Sherman on Art Bell in '96 immediately before Bigelow bought the ranch. Bigelow funded Art Bell's radio start-up. Bigelow funded Linda Howe too. Hmmm!

What the hell are the motives? Definitely, more tourists will come stay at Bigelow's properties. Definitely, make more money on building this mythology. Las Vegas plays the numbers games really well, ehhh?

Hmmm, am I seeing a trend here??? LOTS OF BALLOON BOYS, EHHHH.... Sherman, Lear, Lazar, & Linda Moulton Howe to add to this banana coconut split. What a "cast of characters". : ))

All connected to Art Bell, Knapp, C2C, and Bigelow too! It's PERFECT. It's got Plausible Deniability built right into it too!!!

He's got the scientists helping with his space program & just bumps'em out on PR missions to build-up his tourism empire all connected into The Las Vegas Matrix of playing the numbers! Of course, many of the scientists doing work for Skinwalker were gone in 2010.

BUT. Hasn't Skinwalker peaked as far as Media Hype goes? No more movies coming soon? Any big TV shows?

Hah! I see Ryan posted he has media connections with television years ago. Not sure how much TV he's done???

Hmmm, the Skinwalker Ranch movie came-out in 2013. Hype and/or PSYOPS continues!

Can't you just see Jr. Hicks and Terry Sherman listening to Art Bell back in the day! AM outside in the desert night! Oh, man! Oh, man! I WOULD LOVE IT. Just to be there on the porch with those two... and Orbs floating by and by... UFO's and a huge blue-eyed Wolf.

The stories they could tell... on a Spooky No Moon Night.

At Kindle location 1394 Ryan says he's buying a lot of land around the ranch??? What for? Moving there? Bigfoot and Blue-eyed Wolf tours? Let's get the Orb technology! I do believe in that.

 

[DissectionStalker]

Your second question is answered in the book, but your ability to discern as much comes into question.

I searched individually: divorced married Gwen Terry and got nothing. Can you give the answer or a key word? Thanks.

 

[DissectionStalker]

Resident--the identity of whom clearly escapes you--states that elements of Knapp's/Kelleher's book are not what was told to them.

Resident = Gwen Sherman

In case anyone is still wondering Gwen Sherman has to be Resident. Why? Because Terry has to do the talking to Salisbury for his book interview, and Resident says she's ONLY listening to the conversation on the speakerphone. She specifically says she has never met or talked to Salisbury! The way she goes on about the family I just don't think it's possible it's one of the children.

So, Gwen Sherman = Resident!

I can't imagine Gwen doing the interview with Salisbury. But, IF Ryan's log is somewhat misleading, then it's possible it's Terry. Does anyone care to say why this is Terry and not Gwen??? Hey, I'm very happy to be mistaken! Seriously. I just want the facts or best guesses.

Based on D.L. Wallace's comment we can deduce this is Terry! It is confusing, but I can go with that too. I'll be rereading the Resident log tonight.

 

[DissectionStalker]

Oh crap, not only did Jr. Hicks work for Sherman regarding the electrical, and find the magic rods, and "witness" the dog spots, and "witness" other events AFTEREFFECTS (<--that's really funny!!!) BUT THE DUDE , THE DUDER, is a neighbor too!

OMG, Utah's Hero-Go-To ET-UFO guy was Sherman's neighbor too! Sightings & wild talk must have been a MANIA interest and part of every conversation to some extent! Imagine! Jr. Hicks strikes GOLD with Sherman! This dude is UFO-Heaven... nearby! Each eating right out of the Orb-palms of each others ET-Hands... remember ET's hand's glowing... Home!

Kindle Location 1213

 

[DissectionStalker]

Resident--the identity of whom clearly escapes you--states that elements of Knapp's/Kelleher's book are not what was told to them. This event, perhaps, was one of them. If you choose to cross-reference, the most basic of investigative strategies, you will see that there are glaring omissions between the Van Ecyk articles, other interviews attributed to the Shermans (at least by claim), and the Knapp/Kelleher book, namely, none of these other sources mention anything about this particular wolf or incident; yet they all include reference to the UFO/orb/voice, etc. anomalies. Doesn't that allow for some other conclusion than the one you are making?

PLEASE NOTE: Nowhere in Ryan's book does Resident complain to Ryan about Knapp lying about the Wolf Story, but they discuss several sightings of The Wolf AND Knapp too!!! In Ryan's book he pointedly asks Resident for any mistakes or errors that Knapp made. Resident corrects nothing about that question. Previously, Resident said some was correct, lots missing, and some twisted together, but, again, nothing is said against The Wolf story in Knapp's book, period. In fact, resident corrected no mistakes or errors specifically on their own.

Also, Resident had no problem complaining harshly about another book and suggesting the author is a liar and in it for the money! Resident will fire-a-way! Does Resident attack Knapp's book? No!

 

[DL Wallace]

PLEASE NOTE: Nowhere in Ryan's book does Resident complain to Ryan about Knapp lying about the Wolf Story, but they discuss several sightings of The Wolf AND Knapp too!!! In Ryan's book he pointedly asks Resident for any mistakes or errors that Knapp made. Resident corrects nothing about that question. Previously, Resident said some was correct, lots missing, and some twisted together, but, again, nothing is said against The Wolf story in Knapp's book, period. In fact, resident corrected no mistakes or errors specifically on their own.

Also, Resident had no problem complaining harshly about another book and suggesting the author is a liar and in it for the money! Resident will fire-a-way! Does Resident attack Knapp's book? No!

So what your trying to do is tell the writer what was written. Nowhere does Resident discuss the Bullet Proof Wolf incident, but simply states that a number of wolves were seen in proximity to the property. Your interpretation is flawed and subjective. Your arguments in general are invalid, and the primary reason why you are being ignored b everyone else here. You would benefit by cross-referencing before you draw conclusions. The point is, when the resources are compared, there are events that are acknowledged, and then there are specific events that are omitted. Which events do you think fall under the category of twisted? You make declarative statements about everything else. Please, make one here. Using words like "harshly" is subjectivity, and is a writing style that is avoided by anyone that expects to be taken seriously. Resident does not make any "harsh" statements, but simply provides a point of view from a real time perspective, not from some lonely corner devoid of human contact. I don't mind having a conversation, but this one has passed the point of disturbing.

 

[DissectionStalker]

While rereading Resident section I decided this has to be Terry Sherman. Why? He brings-up the subject of Bigfoot on his own, and he says he's seen Bigfoot. Now, that's definitely a guy thing! And, Terry LOVES TO GO BIG WHOPPER on his stories. Over The Top is exactly how he rolls... believers love this... it really sucks them into the moment... it's SO HUGE... they can't think... it's shock and awe and there's no red flags.

What happens next??? Can you guess?

Ryan takes the bait and runs with it...

Now, it's your turn!

Have you seen Bigfoot too???

Kindle Location 1380 and 1394

 

[DL Wallace]

Oh crap, not only did Jr. Hicks work for Sherman regarding the electrical, and find the magic rods, and "witness" the dog spots, and "witness" other events AFTEREFFECTS (<--that's really funny!!!) BUT THE DUDE , THE DUDER, is a neighbor too!

OMG, Utah's Hero-Go-To ET-UFO guy was Sherman's neighbor too! Sightings & wild talk must have been a MANIA interest and part of every conversation to some extent! Imagine! Jr. Hicks strikes GOLD with Sherman! This dude is UFO-Heaven... nearby! Each eating right out of the Orb-palms of each others ET-Hands... remember ET's hand's glowing... Home!

Kindle Location 1213

Just out of curiosity: How old are you and what do you do for a living?

 

[DL Wallace]

By the way, my bad on the Van Eyck spelling in a previous post. Sometimes my fingers out-type my brain.

 

[DL Wallace]

While rereading Resident section I decided this has to be Terry Sherman. Why? He brings-up the subject of Bigfoot on his own, and he says he's seen Bigfoot. Now, that's definitely a guy thing! And, Terry LOVES TO GO BIG on his stories. Over The Top is exactly how he rolls... believers love this... it really sucks them into the moment... it's SO HUGE... they can't think... it's shock and awe and there's no red flags.

Kindle Location 1394-5

Some trains run much slower than others. Te equivocas.

 

[DissectionStalker]

Your interpretation is flawed and subjective.

I certainly agree! I can't possibly be not flawed and not subjective. I'm just coming at this story from different angles. There's a lot of possibilities. It's impossible to know 'The Truth", but it is possible to get closer to the truth one way or another. So, I may end-up with 2-3 probable solutions, and that is as close as I can get to that truth. Everyone is going to have their own solutions too.

 

[DissectionStalker]

While rereading Resident section I decided this has to be Terry Sherman. Why? He brings-up the subject of Bigfoot on his own, and he says he's seen Bigfoot. Now, that's definitely a guy thing! And, Terry LOVES TO GO BIG WHOPPER on his stories. Over The Top is exactly how he rolls... believers love this... it really sucks them into the moment... it's SO HUGE... they can't think... it's shock and awe and there's no red flags.

What happens next??? Can you guess?

Ryan takes the bait and runs with it...

Now, it's your turn!

Have you seen Bigfoot too???

Kindle Location 1380 and 1394

Some trains run much slower than others. Te equivocas.

At Kindle location 1380 Ryan writes:

"Resident re-initiates contact about a possible Bigfoot sighting."

Resident: "[...] Seen a cream colored Bigfoot there as you're coming out of the ranch across the main road. Just briefly though. Never forget!!!"

Some trains run on time...

 

[DissectionStalker]

Just out of curiosity: How old are you and what do you do for a living?

Entity, Orb, Trickster. I'm as old as the Universe ending...

Read my Mothman Post & Watch that Movie!

Holy Crap! I decided to take a break and watch a movie that I haven't seen since it came out in 2002. Staring Richard Gere and Laura Linney. "The Mothman Prophecies"

Wow, a very revealing moment is when Gere asks Dr. Alexander Leek (anagram) for help. They go into the library where he explains about Mothman... BUT, what is completely fascinating is the explanations he gives for its existence with the Pros/Cons. It really is a very insightful scene that is quite sophisticated and very rare for a movie of this kind.

I highly recommend watching this movie just for the benefit of that one scene. I thought it captures our predicament we have within our inner/outer realities, thinking, and debates about ET-UFO's, Anything Paranormal or Crypto, what is real or not for one person but not another, it might save your marriage Lol, etc. Of course, many aspects about the entirety of the movie fall along the themes of abduction, the watchers, "UFO" being encounters, the effects of trauma and high stress, those mentally destabilized by experiencing such events, precognition, etc... I love it!

There is also an otherworldly dimension that is very subtly presented in just the visual spectrum and editing of this movie. (It also won an award for its music/sound editing.) It is truly a work of art. If you weren't impressed the first time or only saw this years ago as I did, when I didn't understand its kaleidoscopic meanings, I certainly am now finding this an amazingly haunting movie at the "deeper levels" well beyond the surface of its "screen memory". This movie has abducted me! Lol.

It really matches-up as an excellent road-map and overlay of the problems and questions we face on this forum or listening to Paracast.

The scene begins at about the 1hr:01min mark. Best 7 minutes of the movie. It's a unique and concise primer to how we think and feel conflicted over such matters with some thinking-man's (woman's) ways out of our Paranormal maze and hall of mirrors. No dead ends?

(But this is not "action packaged" or a book to screen. It is an artful meditation worth experiencing and thinking about while flying on the subtle plane.)

The anagram for Dr. Leek's name spelled in reverse is:

KEEL

Did you know Keel prank'd the phone... nice twist in the movie. I think this was an artful adaptation of the trickster shining "outside" of his personality and onto the "screen memory".

Brilliant!!!

 

[Goggs Mackay]

@DissectionStalker - Can I ask you if you have a general interest in paranormal topics (be it as a total skeptic or not) or are you just interested in the Sherman Ranch?

Would you be willing to start a private conversation with me and tell me who you are? (You have my word I'd keep your anonymity if you so wish)
The reason I am asking is that being a forum moderator, I am suspicious when people turn up and repeatedly post on one thread, anonymously and usually in a skeptical manner. I'm not suggesting that there is no place for the skeptical viewpoint but we have had to ban certain behaviour and 9 times out of 10 it comes from skeptics (well, debunkers really).

Goggs

 

[DissectionStalker]

The reason I am asking is that being a forum moderator, I am suspicious when people turn up and repeatedly post on one thread, anonymously and usually in a skeptical manner.

I have started two other new threads, so I'm hardly 'only' just focused on this thread.

I am obviously reading Ryan's book very carefully, and I've listened to all 3 of his interviews at Paracast. I've listened to Mr. Salisbury's interview too. I've read several important articles, and I have quoted them accurately. I am a "knowledgeable asset" that does not get personal attacking people as "trolls" or wanting their age or a personal I.D.

Ryan could have cleared-up a lot by answering three simple questions I posed. He could have answered all three questions in 1 or 2 paragraphs or less. That makes him "suspect" as to his motives and authenticity about his account(s), what happened to him, and, so, I become more skeptical, naturally! That's common sense and not being JUST stupid and/or a believer.

I've offered to correct any errors in my posts or delete ones that are too strongly worded. I have corrected several posts, and I have done so promptly too.

I've earned "my right" to be a contributor to this thread.

One of the attributes of Paracast is Gene and Chris are skeptical of "pure believers" and "lack of evidence" for strong believer positions that make claims it's the ET's.

I come from a background where I have encountered an extremely dangerous Sociopath (and other dangerous people) for some period of time. I KNOW how dangerous these people can be. I KNOW how deceptive people can be. I KNOW our government's three letter agencies and the (military industrial complex) MIC are filled with all kinds of Black Op and Covert activities. I look for the potential Human causes of "high strangeness" before I jump to conclusions. That is logical and not emotional or a "religious believer" viewpoint.

Bigelow is invested in Skinwalker big-time, and so is some MIC or 3-letter covert and/or black op activity at or near that ranch too and/OR PSYOPS (not just one source) at some points along that timeline since he's owned the ranch. The ranch was vacant for a number of years before the Shermans, so there is all kinds of potential for Humans to have been doing things on the ranch that the Shermans prevented by their presence there.

An honest investigation and investigator will consider ALL POSSIBILITIES and not just jump into their belief system for "the solution".

Bigelow is a secretive and powerful man with an ET-UFO agenda. He wants to control by knowing the "keys to the kingdom" and not sharing that with the public. He privatizes what should remain in the public domain, and this raises serious potential threats to society at large. He is an elitist that has positioned himself to be a "chosen one" and be powerfully positioned within the mix of esoteric knowledge that he views as well beyond the powers of mankind and current technologies.

I, obviously, have a right to consider IF Bigelow is a potential threat and/or danger to mankind, especially, when he operates this way.

What do you think about Bigelow?